Internet Love

[Nagishkaw 510]

Correction noted, Captain Ewok and Noel, thanks.

I never seen where it said that I had to be waiting for a Alien to come or because my journey is at a certain point, or even finished that I can't post. Omoba called me out, so I addressed her. I told her how I feel as she shared with me how is feels. I shared my predicament for her VJ. Those are my feelings, if she feel that I'm wrong that's her feelings however those feelings aren't shared by me. Now what ???

Some here know me personally, they know of my personality, some that have posted about how bitter they feel I'm or I must be angry don't know me.

If you want a froum of everything positive maybe you should think about starting a thread titled for happy couples only. If you choose to read my thread and YOU find it offensive, remember that you have control over your mouse to click off or to pass it by.

Remeber that this is a open forum, it's not meant strictly for those who Alien spouse is abroad only. If a person that went thru this journey back in the year 2000 decided to post a thread they are indeed welcomed to do that, other members have no right to discourage them nor do you have a right to tell them where to post.

Please remember that your only a member here just like the rest of us, I'm asking that you respect my right to post, and my right to freedom of speech. If you don't enjoy the message don't continue to listen to it. That's your right, but never try to take over a messengers message.

Omoba you need to revisit the guidelines for this room before posting, then if you don't want to obide by Captain Woks rules you are free to remove yourself.

REMEBER, Omoba, OBIDE by WOK rules or make yourself vanish !

[idocare 3]

You said that my dress was inapproiate and I'm gonna report you.

You talked negative about my fiance and I'm gonna report you.

You said that the sky was falling and I'm gonna report you.

I'm gonna report you , I'm gonna report you, I'm gonna report you!!!!!!

You do remember the address to make your report right ? Good.

[Ta Ta 1]

I never ever mentioned anything about your DRESS ? Are you feeling ok today ?

I am within my rights to report you for accusing my SO personally of being deceitful and having several wives. Oh, yes.

I am within my rights according to VJ guidelines to report a situation that drives the forum down hill according to the majority of readers

because of one single poster....you.

There are a few others who in a mature manner post their relationship troubles and that is good as they are in a different level of their journey,but my point is you have an agenda

that drives the forum like an underlying current in the wrong direction. No one here has a problem with someone asking for help or offer advice from a broken relationship, not at all, so don't make it sound so simple and innocent.

You just don't get it, this is NOT one of your yahoo groups for scam marriages but a respectable, supportive immigration site with certain topics belonging in certain forums. your posts are overkill and the wide majority rejects your approach. You do not have to prove a stubborn streak here, you could just follow advice given you by many here. But if you want enough rope to hang yourself go at it, we will be here to respond as well.

Report, report, report........

Kind of sounds like you with your deport them, deport them , deport them in your other threads doesn't it ? How one little letter

can make the difference

[Bassi and Zainab 1]

Idocare, why are you so angry?

[Ta Ta 1]

Correction noted, Captain Ewok and Noel, thanks.

I never seen where it said that I had to be waiting for a Alien to come or because my journey is at a certain point, or even finished that I can't post. Omoba called me out, so I addressed her. I told her how I feel as she shared with me how is feels. I shared my predicament for her VJ. Those are my feelings, if she feel that I'm wrong that's her feelings however those feelings aren't shared by me. Now what ???

Some here know me personally, they know of my personality, some that have posted about how bitter they feel I'm or I must be angry don't know me.

If you want a froum of everything positive maybe you should think about starting a thread titled for happy couples only. If you choose to read my thread and YOU find it offensive, remember that you have control over your mouse to click off or to pass it by.

Remeber that this is a open forum, it's not meant strictly for those who Alien spouse is abroad only. If a person that went thru this journey back in the year 2000 decided to post a thread they are indeed welcomed to do that, other members have no right to discourage them nor do you have a right to tell them where to post.

Please remember that your only a member here just like the rest of us, I'm asking that you respect my right to post, and my right to freedom of speech. If you don't enjoy the message don't continue to listen to it. That's your right, but never try to take over a messengers message.

Omoba you need to revisit the guidelines for this room before posting, then if you don't want to obide by Captain Woks rules you are free to remove yourself.

REMEBER, Omoba, OBIDE by WOK rules or make yourself vanish !

Puff !

I actually like cooking with a Wok, Chinese veggies, yum.

[Ta Ta 1]

Also there won't be a need to start a thread for happy couples only............this site IS for happy couples. You got it the other way around.

There is one forum for divorce, separate and distinct. You may want to check it out............."effects of family changes".

[ose_n_me 0]

Correction noted, Captain Ewok and Noel, thanks.

I never seen where it said that I had to be waiting for a Alien to come or because my journey is at a certain point, or even finished that I can't post. Omoba called me out, so I addressed her. I told her how I feel as she shared with me how is feels. I shared my predicament for her VJ. Those are my feelings, if she feel that I'm wrong that's her feelings however those feelings aren't shared by me. Now what ???

Some here know me personally, they know of my personality, some that have posted about how bitter they feel I'm or I must be angry don't know me.

If you want a froum of everything positive maybe you should think about starting a thread titled for happy couples only. If you choose to read my thread and YOU find it offensive, remember that you have control over your mouse to click off or to pass it by.

Remeber that this is a open forum, it's not meant strictly for those who Alien spouse is abroad only. If a person that went thru this journey back in the year 2000 decided to post a thread they are indeed welcomed to do that, other members have no right to discourage them nor do you have a right to tell them where to post.

Please remember that your only a member here just like the rest of us, I'm asking that you respect my right to post, and my right to freedom of speech. If you don't enjoy the message don't continue to listen to it. That's your right, but never try to take over a messengers message.

Omoba you need to revisit the guidelines for this room before posting, then if you don't want to obide by Captain Woks rules you are free to remove yourself.

I really don't think anyone here is opposed to you posting or telling your story. The issue is more with the way you interject into positive topics, or start topics that have a positive title, then the subject ends up being your negative message again. We all know we have the "right" to post what we want, where we want, but It's a matter of respect and principle. You're trying so hard to get your message across to all of us, yet you are causing us to be on the defensive because your negativity pops up in every thread. It's hard to ignore something that keeps being forced on you. I really think people would respect you and your efforts more if you would be a little more respectful of the rest of us too.

Instead of all this anomosity, personal attacks, assumptions, and calling each other out, we should be trying to support, encourage and learn from each other. Its not about freedom of speech, or having the "right" to do this or that. just because we have the right to do something...doesn't mean it's the right thing to do It's common courtesy and respect for peoples feelings and thoughts. It's more of a "godly" and "righteous" way to be towards others. Thats the problem with the world now...everyone uses "having the right" to do something as an excuse to act any way they want, without taking responsibility for the fact that what they are doing may be hurting someone else. If you don't care that you are making others uncomfortable with your "posting style" then why do you care to "help" us? If you truly want to help, then be respectful, share your story (as ebonyqueen suggested)and those of us interested in reading it will do so; and if you don't want to share our joy or happiness, then ignore the threads that are started as a happy, encouraging place. Just like you have asked us to ignore your posts, please be kind enough to do the same to ours. Is that asking too much? Keeping with the "subject matter" is the responsibility of all of us.

God Bless

[Queen Jenn 0]

Correction noted, Captain Ewok and Noel, thanks.

I never seen where it said that I had to be waiting for a Alien to come or because my journey is at a certain point, or even finished that I can't post. Omoba called me out, so I addressed her. I told her how I feel as she shared with me how is feels. I shared my predicament for her VJ. Those are my feelings, if she feel that I'm wrong that's her feelings however those feelings aren't shared by me. Now what ???

Some here know me personally, they know of my personality, some that have posted about how bitter they feel I'm or I must be angry don't know me.

If you want a froum of everything positive maybe you should think about starting a thread titled for happy couples only. If you choose to read my thread and YOU find it offensive, remember that you have control over your mouse to click off or to pass it by.

Remeber that this is a open forum, it's not meant strictly for those who Alien spouse is abroad only. If a person that went thru this journey back in the year 2000 decided to post a thread they are indeed welcomed to do that, other members have no right to discourage them nor do you have a right to tell them where to post.

Please remember that your only a member here just like the rest of us, I'm asking that you respect my right to post, and my right to freedom of speech. If you don't enjoy the message don't continue to listen to it. That's your right, but never try to take over a messengers message.

Omoba you need to revisit the guidelines for this room before posting, then if you don't want to obide by Captain Woks rules you are free to remove yourself.

I really don't think anyone here is opposed to you posting or telling your story. The issue is more with the way you interject into positive topics, or start topics that have a positive title, then the subject ends up being your negative message again. We all know we have the "right" to post what we want, where we want, but It's a matter of respect and principle. You're trying so hard to get your message across to all of us, yet you are causing us to be on the defensive because your negativity pops up in every thread. It's hard to ignore something that keeps being forced on you. I really think people would respect you and your efforts more if you would be a little more respectful of the rest of us too.

Instead of all this anomosity, personal attacks, assumptions, and calling each other out, we should be trying to support, encourage and learn from each other. Its not about freedom of speech, or having the "right" to do this or that. just because we have the right to do something...doesn't mean it's the right thing to do It's common courtesy and respect for peoples feelings and thoughts. It's more of a "godly" and "righteous" way to be towards others. Thats the problem with the world now...everyone uses "having the right" to do something as an excuse to act any way they want, without taking responsibility for the fact that what they are doing may be hurting someone else. If you don't care that you are making others uncomfortable with your "posting style" then why do you care to "help" us? If you truly want to help, then be respectful, share your story (as ebonyqueen suggested)and those of us interested in reading it will do so; and if you don't want to share our joy or happiness, then ignore the threads that are started as a happy, encouraging place. Just like you have asked us to ignore your posts, please be kind enough to do the same to ours. Is that asking too much? Keeping with the "subject matter" is the responsibility of all of us.

God Bless

[one love 0]

Hello all,

First I want to say for those that my message don't apply to just Dont reply.

I met my ex-husband thru the internet, he then was a medical doctor in Nigeria, he contacted me and we hit it off as most internet relationships do. with this new found love I found myself booking a ticket to go and meet him. While in Nigeria and meeting my ex for the first time he proposed marriage to me, however it was already being talked about over the phone before I arrived. Oh that man said he loved me so much.

During my 6-day stay there he protected and shielded me. I went to work with him and actually sat in as he seen his patients. I met a friend of his as well as everyone that was on staff at the hospital that he worked at and all was good.

I met his mother and some family members and they seemed really nice. About day 4 of my ex-husband driving thru the diasterous traffic I begin to feel at ease with his driving skills as well as all the vendors running in the streets to make a sale. Again, all was good.

Fast foward to time to leave, ......ofcourse I accepted his proposal and we were officially a couple engaged. I was older then my ex-husband, but that didn't matter to me. The fact that he showed me all that attention and love was what mattered. He showed and told me that he loved me, however I was in Nigeria at that time. I had never sponsored a man to come from overseas so I didn't really know much about it. I did do research on his country and found a site where it said that a Nigerian man will walk away from a marriage leaving his wife to find a way to feed their kids, agian that didn't matter to me, because while I was there in Nigeria this man treated me like a queen (not to mention that he was a doctor there. )

Here in the states I worked in the medical field and actually worked with other Nigerian doctors, I didn't know them very personally but they were respectful towards me so no alarms went off.

Again my ex-husband and his family were very kind and repectful as well.

FAST FOWARD:

My ex arrives in the states thru a K-1 visa I filed for in his behalf. He tells me that we need to marry quick so that he can become a doctor here in America and raise the family income. ( who wouldn't go for that after all that's your fiance talking, the man that you trust and love ) So ofcourse I complied with my soon to be husband.

FAST FOWARD:

After marriage gradually he begin to create strive and discord in our relationship ( his beginning plan for leaving the relationship ) and evenually he left our family home and begin writing letters talking about how abrusive I was towards him......... ( At that time I knew nothing about a I-360 )

Our son was only 3-weeks old when he left, Here in Seattle they have a rather large Nigerian community here, I didn't know that either.

Moral of my experience is that you won't know of an aliens intentions, you will know of what they tell you prior to coming into America or obtaining their papers. I understand many of you being supportive and thinking that your relationship is real and that your alien spouse really love s you and your both deeply in love, I've already been there and done that. What many of you don't and won't grasp is the masquerade until it becomes too late.

My ex-husband was from Nigeria, and from what I have read on this site from postngs from men that say they r from Nigeria is that others that want to come into the states look for a MUGU ( a fool ) to file paperwork for them and get them into the states. It don't matter your age, race, or financial income, as long as the paperwork goes thru, other countries also partake in this scam not just Africans.

If you love your mate, ofcourse you trust them, leaving u the LPR/American, very vulnerable because once your love arrives legally, there are ways to stay here, without u the sponsor being involved. There will be some from this site that is posting regularly that will experience what I and others have experienced, not because your a bad person it will be because of the scam.

I'm not bitter, I'm just committed to posting every-now-and -again to enlighten others. But again like I said you won't really know what an aliens intentions are , I do believe that there are good people all over the world, and now I believe that there r also scammers all over the world as well.

This Internet has made it easier for Aliens to come into America thru marriage and don't look for the aliens family to be nothing but good to you, afterall your bringing there love one into America.

Many have ran to Nigeria and married without giving there spouse a chance to prove their love towards them. ( Sex isn't a proof of internal love it only satifies both lusty sexual desires ) Many of us have spent thousands of dollars sending money to our alien loved ones and talking on the phone to them, ofcourse once they arrive here and eventually start acting a fool your left with thinking of all the money and time you have invested into this person, and in most cases you try to make it work with a person that don't want to be with you.

Take it from me, if the alien no longer wants to be with you they won't, unless they are in school and your supporting them or something similiar. However the true colors come out eventually.

I guess what needs to be demostrated is the love that they proclaim.

Finally, to all that are going thru this process, I wish you all well and hope that your visajourney becomes one full of longevity and joy.

my thoughts to you is to become familiar with the I-360.

I'm open to answer e-mails or for a chat

here we are here fro support of others not to hear about ur down fall and blameing Nigerian men for Scams.. Scams is world wide.. even thou im sorry for ur pain Maybe this should of ben placed in diffrent area but not certianly here... We love our Nigerian men .. Not all are like your husband u just got an bad apple.. And maybe it was both of u that could not make it work.. It takes to make and two to break... Sorry but alot of us feel same... If it happens to us we learn move on.. but it is not just Nigerians the Rtae of divorce is much higher in USA

[idocare 3]

Alot of us feel the same, what is it that you feel. Sadness when you hear anyone say something against your thoughts.

ZEE --- Why you call me angry, do I judge your post and attach a title to you

Omoba, you come on this thread to start a war ???? Anyone that has a not so happy story should go somewhere else, I keep telling you this isn't your forum, nor do you have the right to tell me where to post. What part of that are you not understanding.

Every message will not be to your liking, and it's not meant to be, as this is a open forum what part are you not understanding, as for all the name calling and all (oh she's angry, oh she this , oh she that ) you all can say what you will, you CAN"T TAKE OVER THIS FORUM.

NOR CAN U MAKE ME STOP POSTING, GANG UP ON ME TO MAKE YOURSELFS FEEL BETTER, I WAS BORN BY MYSELF AND I MAKE MY DECISION BY MYSELF GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, YOU WON'T INFLUENCE MY ACTIONS.

Edited February 17, 2008 by idocare

[Ta Ta 1]

Alot of us feel the same, what is it that you feel. Sadness when you hear anyone say something against your thoughts.

ZEE --- Why you call me angry, do I judge your post and attach a title to you

Omoba, you come on this thread to start a war ???? Anyone that has a not so happy story should go somewhere else, I keep telling you this isn't your forum, nor do you have the right to tell me where to post. What part of that are you not understanding.

Every message will not be to your liking, and it's not meant to be, as this is a open forum what part are you not understanding, as for all the name calling and all (oh she's angry, oh she this , oh she that ) you all can say what you will, you CAN"T TAKE OVER THIS FORUM.

NOR CAN U MAKE ME STOP POSTING, GANG UP ON ME TO MAKE YOURSELFS FEEL BETTER, I WAS BORN BY MYSELF AND I MAKE MY DECISION BY MYSELF GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, YOU WON'T INFLUENCE MY ACTIONS.

Interesting to see your true colors come out now. I knew it would be only a matter of time.

By the way, some VJers have pm'ed and told another side of you.

That side is quiet ugly to say the least !

A side you have not told here for obvious reasons.

You don't have to shout at me in CAPS or get so emotional.

You won't influence our actions and choices either.

Don't use that tone with me lady. I am not starting a war, I am finishing the war to restore peace here.

Take a very deep breath and chill out !

[His Glory 25]

I MAKE MY DECISION BY MYSELF GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, YOU WON'T INFLUENCE MY ACTIONS.

That's a pretty hypocritcal statement. Are you on a higher horse that you think you can influence OUR actions? That we are all too blind and we cant see we are all being scammed by men exactly like your ex husband?

[Perseverance 1]

Alot of us feel the same, what is it that you feel. Sadness when you hear anyone say something against your thoughts.

ZEE --- Why you call me angry, do I judge your post and attach a title to you

Omoba, you come on this thread to start a war ???? Anyone that has a not so happy story should go somewhere else, I keep telling you this isn't your forum, nor do you have the right to tell me where to post. What part of that are you not understanding.

Every message will not be to your liking, and it's not meant to be, as this is a open forum what part are you not understanding, as for all the name calling and all (oh she's angry, oh she this , oh she that ) you all can say what you will, you CAN"T TAKE OVER THIS FORUM.

NOR CAN U MAKE ME STOP POSTING, GANG UP ON ME TO MAKE YOURSELFS FEEL BETTER, I WAS BORN BY MYSELF AND I MAKE MY DECISION BY MYSELF GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, YOU WON'T INFLUENCE MY ACTIONS.

WOAH!!! Stop just a minute, back up the bus and let it idle for a moment...

I would not say that Omoba started a war...she was not afraid to voice what many are thinking. I think that there are many of us who are tired of the same ole " Nigerians are scammers" interjected into so many threads. I realise that you started this thread yourself, but at this point so many people are tired of just ignoring this subject and hoping that you will some how come to terms with the pain that you still carry. You continue to come here to VJ after your immigration process has long been ended, so that must mean that you are getting something from interacting with us here. You want to share, I understand, give us more to work with here, besides the broken record of Nigerians are scammers. We can help you work through the stages of this divorce, many of us have also been divorced and understand the pain. Divorce is never an easy thing to cope with, more so when there are children are involved. I came from a divorced home and now my children do as well (first marriage quite bad) As a child who comes from a divorced home, I need to ask...are you thinking of your child and how this effects the child? No matter how small the child was when the event happened, it will still effect the child, the problems of divorce can effect children for the rest of thier lives. If you would open up to us in a way that we can talk about this together, we could help you through this. Believe me when I tell you that my first marriage and then divorce were my own private hell, I found a way for the sake of my children to forgive thier father so our children do not have to be caught up in the middle of what happened to us. It took a lot to come to terms with everything he had done to me, he was very abusive. We can help you if you allow us to, but as far as bashing an entire country full of people over what happened between you and your ex husband, we dont want to hear it anymore. There are other ways to get your message across without all of this termoil everytime. I hope that you can read my post with an open heart, because it was written with an open heart.

God Bless

[Ta Ta 1]

Can't reveal what I know because of TOS but things are clear to me now. Crystal clear. He was actually not a bad kind of guy.

Wow is all I can say. Little bird just flew by here. Enough said.

[Nagishkaw 510]

Alot of us feel the same, what is it that you feel. Sadness when you hear anyone say something against your thoughts.

ZEE --- Why you call me angry, do I judge your post and attach a title to you

Omoba, you come on this thread to start a war ???? Anyone that has a not so happy story should go somewhere else, I keep telling you this isn't your forum, nor do you have the right to tell me where to post. What part of that are you not understanding.

Every message will not be to your liking, and it's not meant to be, as this is a open forum what part are you not understanding, as for all the name calling and all (oh she's angry, oh she this , oh she that ) you all can say what you will, you CAN"T TAKE OVER THIS FORUM.

NOR CAN U MAKE ME STOP POSTING, GANG UP ON ME TO MAKE YOURSELFS FEEL BETTER, I WAS BORN BY MYSELF AND I MAKE MY DECISION BY MYSELF GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, YOU WON'T INFLUENCE MY ACTIONS.