Internet Love

[Ta Ta 1]

Idocare

the forum " effects of major family changes on immigration benefits " would be a place to take your posts to help someone with what to do AFTER

their marriage has fallen apart.

Here, in the sub-saharan we are happy, content couples, waiting to be with our SO's. Sometimes we hurt due to the separation and long AP is devastating.

I find you are trying to break up happy couples by sowing doubt into every relationship here and in a very subtle manner try to erode all that is good and hopeful.

You seem to lack insight and awareness that you have absolutely no control over our choices and relationships.

We all are aware of scammers as intelligent woman and know what goes on with deception. We are not teenagers in puppy love making irrational

choices and you are not the self appointed guru on a mountain top that you may think you are, here to enlighten us.

You are insulting our intelligence if you think you will make anyone drop a petition because YOUR own marriage failed.

The atmosphere of this sub-saharan forum does not need negativity but encouragement and support in a warm environment. That is the purpose

of this visa journey site.

There is as I said the " effects....." section where situations are addressed such as what you experienced and to contain those issues to a separate forum.

By coming here and saying the sky is falling , the sky is falling you will accomplish nothing.

You posted a Happy New Years thread and in the same sentence started your " they only want green cards rant........."

Again on Valentines Day you posted negativity.

Holidays still rough for you ? Momma ain't happy ain't nobody happy ?

Why post this mess on every holiday ? Why post it in a thread of someone who just made a topic about a happy breakthrough in her journey ?

What is really YOUR motive here other than trying to sow discord between couples with doubt and accusations ?

It is like a toothache that won't stop and we are tired of it here. Please take it to the appropriate forum of divorce. There you can do some good maybe.

It just seems so out of place here among joyful and happy posters.

Three years ago you divorced, yet you are still here trying to sow doubt.

When will you realize that your attempts of co transfering and projecting and force feeding your personal experience onto us will not stop a single petition ?

When will you realize that we have a brain and have thought about pros and cons for ourselves ?

Noobies may be new to VJ but I find them to be intelligent, strong woman , very capable of making their own decisions.

If anyone has a problem I believe they would post in the correct forum for actual help on how or if to proceed.

This is an immigration site and not an ANTI AFRICAN immigration site.

I am not negating your pain and have told you before I am sorry you had to go through that..........just saying time to find a different approach.

I also believe it takes two to tango and you must take responsibility for your own choices, be accountable and stop the victim mentality.

You still sound like a victim, time to get strong and forget and forgive to open the door for new love in your live.

The horse has been dead long ago !

[His Glory 25]

Idocare

the forum " effects of major family changes on immigration benefits " would be a place to take your posts to help someone with what to do AFTER

their marriage has fallen apart.

Here, in the sub-saharan we are happy, content couples, waiting to be with our SO's. Sometimes we hurt due to the separation and long AP is devastating.

I find you are trying to break up happy couples by sowing doubt into every relationship here and in a very subtle manner try to erode all that is good and hopeful.

You seem to lack insight and awareness that you have absolutely no control over our choices and relationships.

We all are aware of scammers as intelligent woman and know what goes on with deception. We are not teenagers in puppy love making irrational

choices and you are not the self appointed guru on a mountain top that you may think you are, here to enlighten us.

You are insulting our intelligence if you think you will make anyone drop a petition because YOUR own marriage failed.

The atmosphere of this sub-saharan forum does not need negativity but encouragement and support in a warm environment. That is the purpose

of this visa journey site.

There is as I said the " effects....." section where situations are addressed such as what you experienced and to contain those issues to a separate forum.

By coming here and saying the sky is falling , the sky is falling you will accomplish nothing.

You posted a Happy New Years thread and in the same sentence started your " they only want green cards rant........."

Again on Valentines Day you posted negativity.

Holidays still rough for you ? Momma ain't happy ain't nobody happy ?

Why post this mess on every holiday ? Why post it in a thread of someone who just made a topic about a happy breakthrough in her journey ?

What is really YOUR motive here other than trying to sow discord between couples with doubt and accusations ?

It is like a toothache that won't stop and we are tired of it here. Please take it to the appropriate forum of divorce. There you can do some good maybe.

It just seems so out of place here among joyful and happy posters.

Three years ago you divorced, yet you are still here trying to sow doubt.

When will you realize that your attempts of co transfering and projecting and force feeding your personal experience onto us will not stop a single petition ?

When will you realize that we have a brain and have thought about pros and cons for ourselves ?

Noobies may be new to VJ but I find them to be intelligent, strong woman , very capable of making their own decisions.

If anyone has a problem I believe they would post in the correct forum for actual help on how or if to proceed.

This is an immigration site and not an ANTI AFRICAN immigration site.

I am not negating your pain and have told you before I am sorry you had to go through that..........just saying time to find a different approach.

I also believe it takes two to tango and you must take responsibility for your own choices, be accountable and stop the victim mentality.

You still sound like a victim, time to get strong and forget and forgive to open the door for new love in your live.

The horse has been dead long ago !

[Nagishkaw 510]

Idocare

the forum " effects of major family changes on immigration benefits " would be a place to take your posts to help someone with what to do AFTER

their marriage has fallen apart.

Here, in the sub-saharan we are happy, content couples, waiting to be with our SO's. Sometimes we hurt due to the separation and long AP is devastating.

I find you are trying to break up happy couples by sowing doubt into every relationship here and in a very subtle manner try to erode all that is good and hopeful.

You seem to lack insight and awareness that you have absolutely no control over our choices and relationships.

We all are aware of scammers as intelligent woman and know what goes on with deception. We are not teenagers in puppy love making irrational

choices and you are not the self appointed guru on a mountain top that you may think you are, here to enlighten us.

You are insulting our intelligence if you think you will make anyone drop a petition because YOUR own marriage failed.

The atmosphere of this sub-saharan forum does not need negativity but encouragement and support in a warm environment. That is the purpose

of this visa journey site.

There is as I said the " effects....." section where situations are addressed such as what you experienced and to contain those issues to a separate forum.

By coming here and saying the sky is falling , the sky is falling you will accomplish nothing.

You posted a Happy New Years thread and in the same sentence started your " they only want green cards rant........."

Again on Valentines Day you posted negativity.

Holidays still rough for you ? Momma ain't happy ain't nobody happy ?

Why post this mess on every holiday ? Why post it in a thread of someone who just made a topic about a happy breakthrough in her journey ?

What is really YOUR motive here other than trying to sow discord between couples with doubt and accusations ?

It is like a toothache that won't stop and we are tired of it here. Please take it to the appropriate forum of divorce. There you can do some good maybe.

It just seems so out of place here among joyful and happy posters.

Three years ago you divorced, yet you are still here trying to sow doubt.

When will you realize that your attempts of co transfering and projecting and force feeding your personal experience onto us will not stop a single petition ?

When will you realize that we have a brain and have thought about pros and cons for ourselves ?

Noobies may be new to VJ but I find them to be intelligent, strong woman , very capable of making their own decisions.

If anyone has a problem I believe they would post in the correct forum for actual help on how or if to proceed.

This is an immigration site and not an ANTI AFRICAN immigration site.

I am not negating your pain and have told you before I am sorry you had to go through that..........just saying time to find a different approach.

I also believe it takes two to tango and you must take responsibility for your own choices, be accountable and stop the victim mentality.

You still sound like a victim, time to get strong and forget and forgive to open the door for new love in your live.

The horse has been dead long ago !

I think that is the best post I have ever read. You have such great expression, Sis.

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Idocare

the forum " effects of major family changes on immigration benefits " would be a place to take your posts to help someone with what to do AFTER

their marriage has fallen apart.

Here, in the sub-saharan we are happy, content couples, waiting to be with our SO's. Sometimes we hurt due to the separation and long AP is devastating.

I find you are trying to break up happy couples by sowing doubt into every relationship here and in a very subtle manner try to erode all that is good and hopeful.

You seem to lack insight and awareness that you have absolutely no control over our choices and relationships.

We all are aware of scammers as intelligent woman and know what goes on with deception. We are not teenagers in puppy love making irrational

choices and you are not the self appointed guru on a mountain top that you may think you are, here to enlighten us.

You are insulting our intelligence if you think you will make anyone drop a petition because YOUR own marriage failed.

The atmosphere of this sub-saharan forum does not need negativity but encouragement and support in a warm environment. That is the purpose

of this visa journey site.

There is as I said the " effects....." section where situations are addressed such as what you experienced and to contain those issues to a separate forum.

By coming here and saying the sky is falling , the sky is falling you will accomplish nothing.

You posted a Happy New Years thread and in the same sentence started your " they only want green cards rant........."

Again on Valentines Day you posted negativity.

Holidays still rough for you ? Momma ain't happy ain't nobody happy ?

Why post this mess on every holiday ? Why post it in a thread of someone who just made a topic about a happy breakthrough in her journey ?

What is really YOUR motive here other than trying to sow discord between couples with doubt and accusations ?

It is like a toothache that won't stop and we are tired of it here. Please take it to the appropriate forum of divorce. There you can do some good maybe.

It just seems so out of place here among joyful and happy posters.

Three years ago you divorced, yet you are still here trying to sow doubt.

When will you realize that your attempts of co transfering and projecting and force feeding your personal experience onto us will not stop a single petition ?

When will you realize that we have a brain and have thought about pros and cons for ourselves ?

Noobies may be new to VJ but I find them to be intelligent, strong woman , very capable of making their own decisions.

If anyone has a problem I believe they would post in the correct forum for actual help on how or if to proceed.

This is an immigration site and not an ANTI AFRICAN immigration site.

I am not negating your pain and have told you before I am sorry you had to go through that..........just saying time to find a different approach.

I also believe it takes two to tango and you must take responsibility for your own choices, be accountable and stop the victim mentality.

You still sound like a victim, time to get strong and forget and forgive to open the door for new love in your live.

The horse has been dead long ago !

I think that is the best post I have ever read. You have such great expression, Sis.

I agree! I would like to mention that I had two thoughts while reading all of the OP's posts yet never found a way to articulate it as well as Omoba did in this one and as well as ebonyqueen did at the bottom of the last page.

Continuously repeating the fact that there are scammers that might be scamming does not really do anyone any good. If you really do want to have us look at our relationships in the way you wish you had looked at your own, why not give some examples? Until you do that, you are simply sowing the seeds of doubt with nothing substantial to look for in our own relationships. Instilling doubt and paranoia into happy marriages is not the work of God.

[idocare 3]

Omoba,

Last I checked Captain Wok was the person overseeing this site. Why do you feel that you can control Sub Saharan did you buy it from Captain Wok ? At this moment I'm not understanding your post directed to me. From what I can see you have only been a member here since August 2006, and this is an open forum, Omoba your just a member here you have no right to tell me or anyone else where to post messages. How dare you, do you think if you told me to jump up and down that I would? Who do you think you are, I'll tell you who you are, you are a member of this forum and NOTHING more. I have been posting here since 2003 and never once have I seen your name as owner of this site, where do you get off susgesting that I post somewhere else.

Listen to me, your not the moderator for this site and if you were appointed a moderator you need to read about what's to be posted here and fall back into line as a member just like me, I don't know why you feel like you have the power to tell people where they should post, or talk about what you and others are so tired of reading. As long as I adhere to Captian Woks instructions I don't care what you and others are tired of, do I live for you ??? Are you sending me money and paying my bills ? No your not. So you have no right to open your mouth asking me to post somewhere else, I have been posting here before you knew this site existed and you think you can tell me something ?you may get away with that with some but not me, I'll never let YOU control me, nor will you ever have control of where I choose to post. What you do have control over is choosing not to read my post, especially if you already know what it's gonna be about, why do you continue to burden yourself with reading it? Hummm.

Noel kept telling people the ran is coming the rain is coming and there were some that listened to him and saved themselves, so If I choose to repost a message or how many times I decide to discuss my message on this open forum is my business.

I have yet to meet an intelligent person that will join somebody else's establishment then speak out as if they are the owner and try to run the show. A intelligent person will join the club already knowing that they are just a member, they will adhere by the rules of the club and not try to control something that they have no control over. they will go to a restaurant they enjoy eating at. A person that lacks intelligence will join a establishment then attempt to take over, they will think more of themselves then what they are, they will repeatedly go to a restaurant they feel has bad food and continously complain about the food.

If my post don't apply to you, why worry about it, there has been many that have experienced what I've experienced and there are some post ( not by me ) that thank me for posting, why do you continue to read my post, are you fishing for something ? I don't know why you feel the Sub-Saharan full of happy folks when I and others which fall within the sub saharan are at different stages in our VJ . Everybody from Sub Saharan isn't where you are therefore have different experiences to share. I'm not where your at on this journey, but I will tell my story even if it's not approving in some eyes, (my story is my reality ) As I was posting before your journey started what makes you think you have authority to tell me what to post. you and your click ( of friends ) really need to check yourselves and check the rules of the Sub- Saharan board. Your all members here, you don't run nothing, and you surely don't run me, nor do you have control over any thing I decide to post.

Actually I do know of one person that has decided to withdraw her petittion, but that was her decision , not mines, you Omoba don't know the many people that I talk to, nor do you know the many people that read my post, why do you think I continue to post, it's not for you but for the one's that decide to e-mail me because they can relate to what I'm saying. Heck your husband isn't even here yet, so I don't expect you to relate to me yet.

I never look to destroy a relationship, but like I have said, when one person in a relationship doesen't want the marriage to work, it won't, because the agendas weren't the same. You Omoba, are in AP, you don't know what will come off that plane once he arrives. You may say well we have a baby, well a baby didn't stop a medical doctor from leaving , I dought if it stops your husband if that's what he wants to do so. Actually you have no clue who is keeping your husband warm at nite. You call yourself Omoba, but the reality is that you don't know if your the second or third wife. I have posted in the Effects area, and I will continue to post wherever I desire, YOU won't dictact where I decide to share or provide information,nor will you dictate what information I share !!! While you and the others are sitting waiting for your men to arrive I can only guess that some of you will go down the same journey that I experienced, and Omoba, my feeling is that you will be within the group that will end up being deceived. I only hope that your women enough to post your story. Omoba will you post your story?

Omoba your on this site acting like you grew up with your husband and know him very well, you only know of what he (and others ) tell you. A scam wouldn't be a scam if it were detectable before it's too late. Although I'm wishing the best for everyone that petitions for an Alien to into the states, I'm at a place in this visa journey where I know that's not realistic.

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Omoba,

Last I checked Captain Wok was the person overseeing this site. Why do you feel that you can control Sub Saharan did you buy it from Captain Wok ? At this moment I'm not understanding your post directed to me. From what I can see you have only been a member here since August 2006, and this is an open forum, Omoba your just a member here you have no right to tell me or anyone else where to post messages. How dare you, do you think if you told me to jump up and down that I would? Who do you think you are, I'll tell you who you are, you are a member of this forum and NOTHING more. I have been posting here since 2003 and never once have I seen your name as owner of this site, where do you get off susgesting that I post somewhere else.

Listen to me, your not the moderator for this site and if you were appointed a moderator you need to read about what's to be posted here and fall back into line as a member just like me, I don't know why you feel like you have the power to tell people where they should post, or talk about what you and others are so tired of reading. As long as I adhere to Captian Woks instructions I don't care what you and others are tired of, do I live for you ??? Are you sending me money and paying my bills ? No your not. So you have no right to open your mouth asking me to post somewhere else, I have been posting here before you knew this site existed and you think you can tell me something ?you may get away with that with some but not me, I'll never let YOU control me, nor will you ever have control of where I choose to post. What you do have control over is choosing not to read my post, especially if you already know what it's gonna be about, why do you continue to burden yourself with reading it? Hummm.

Noel kept telling people the ran is coming the rain is coming and there were some that listened to him and saved themselves, so If I choose to repost a message or how many times I decide to discuss my message on this open forum is my business.

I have yet to meet an intelligent person that will join somebody else's establishment then speak out as if they are the owner and try to run the show. A intelligent person will join the club already knowing that they are just a member, they will adhere by the rules of the club and not try to control something that they have no control over. they will go to a restaurant they enjoy eating at. A person that lacks intelligence will join a establishment then attempt to take over, they will think more of themselves then what they are, they will repeatedly go to a restaurant they feel has bad food and continously complain about the food.

If my post don't apply to you, why worry about it, there has been many that have experienced what I've experienced and there are some post ( not by me ) that thank me for posting, why do you continue to read my post, are you fishing for something ? I don't know why you feel the Sub-Saharan full of happy folks when I and others which fall within the sub saharan are at different stages in our VJ . Everybody from Sub Saharan isn't where you are therefore have different experiences to share. I'm not where your at on this journey, but I will tell my story even if it's not approving in some eyes, (my story is my reality ) As I was posting before your journey started what makes you think you have authority to tell me what to post. you and your click ( of friends ) really need to check yourselves and check the rules of the Sub- Saharan board. Your all members here, you don't run nothing, and you surely don't run me, nor do you have control over any thing I decide to post.

Actually I do know of one person that has decided to withdraw her petittion, but that was her decision , not mines, you Omoba don't know the many people that I talk to, nor do you know the many people that read my post, why do you think I continue to post, it's not for you but for the one's that decide to e-mail me because they can relate to what I'm saying. Heck your husband isn't even here yet, so I don't expect you to relate to me yet.

I never look to destroy a relationship, but like I have said, when one person in a relationship doesen't want the marriage to work, it won't, because the agendas weren't the same. You Omoba, are in AP, you don't know what will come off that plane once he arrives. You may say well we have a baby, well a baby didn't stop a medical doctor from leaving , I dought if it stops your husband if that's what he wants to do so. Actually you have no clue who is keeping your husband warm at nite. You call yourself Omoba, but the reality is that you don't know if your the second or third wife. I have posted in the Effects area, and I will continue to post wherever I desire, YOU won't dictact where I decide to share or provide information,nor will you dictate what information I share !!! While you and the others are sitting waiting for your men to arrive I can only guess that some of you will go down the same journey that I experienced, and Omoba, my feeling is that you will be within the group that will end up being deceived. I only hope that your women enough to post your story. Omoba will you post your story?

Omoba your on this site acting like you grew up with your husband and know him very well, you only know of what he (and others ) tell you. A scam wouldn't be a scam if it were detectable before it's too late. Although I'm wishing the best for everyone that petitions for an Alien to into the states, I'm at a place in this visa journey where I know that's not realistic.

Your post just put me in emotional shock! To behold that much intense impromtu freakout broke open my heart... for real. Sloppy finger pointing isn't giving you the kick it used to? Then might I suggest a few things that may help ( I would have asked for your permission to post, but my telepathic transmiter is currently out of range ) ...Fling imaginary lightening bolts from your finger tips at anyone who annoys you and toss a few love bombs at anyone who thrills you. In a loud, sarcastic voice mouth off at people who became members after 2004 . Blame EWOK for not making you a shareholder in VJ stock, then stage a puppet show starring yourself as a noble hero. Make ugly faces in the mirror with lots of tongue sticking out, and write a nice long post on how perfection sucks.

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quote name='idocare' date='Feb 17 2008, 05:13 AM' post='1588874']

Omoba,

Last I checked Captain Wok was the person overseeing this site. Why do you feel that you can control Sub Saharan did you buy it from Captain Wok ? At this moment I'm not understanding your post directed to me. From what I can see you have only been a member here since August 2006, and this is an open forum, Omoba your just a member here you have no right to tell me or anyone else where to post messages. How dare you, do you think if you told me to jump up and down that I would? Who do you think you are, I'll tell you who you are, you are a member of this forum and NOTHING more. I have been posting here since 2003 and never once have I seen your name as owner of this site, where do you get off susgesting that I post somewhere else.

Listen to me, your not the moderator for this site and if you were appointed a moderator you need to read about what's to be posted here and fall back into line as a member just like me, I don't know why you feel like you have the power to tell people where they should post, or talk about what you and others are so tired of reading. As long as I adhere to Captian Woks instructions I don't care what you and others are tired of, do I live for you ??? Are you sending me money and paying my bills ? No your not. So you have no right to open your mouth asking me to post somewhere else, I have been posting here before you knew this site existed and you think you can tell me something ?you may get away with that with some but not me, I'll never let YOU control me, nor will you ever have control of where I choose to post. What you do have control over is choosing not to read my post, especially if you already know what it's gonna be about, why do you continue to burden yourself with reading it? Hummm.

Noel kept telling people the ran is coming the rain is coming and there were some that listened to him and saved themselves, so If I choose to repost a message or how many times I decide to discuss my message on this open forum is my business.

I have yet to meet an intelligent person that will join somebody else's establishment then speak out as if they are the owner and try to run the show. A intelligent person will join the club already knowing that they are just a member, they will adhere by the rules of the club and not try to control something that they have no control over. they will go to a restaurant they enjoy eating at. A person that lacks intelligence will join a establishment then attempt to take over, they will think more of themselves then what they are, they will repeatedly go to a restaurant they feel has bad food and continously complain about the food.

If my post don't apply to you, why worry about it, there has been many that have experienced what I've experienced and there are some post ( not by me ) that thank me for posting, why do you continue to read my post, are you fishing for something ? I don't know why you feel the Sub-Saharan full of happy folks when I and others which fall within the sub saharan are at different stages in our VJ . Everybody from Sub Saharan isn't where you are therefore have different experiences to share. I'm not where your at on this journey, but I will tell my story even if it's not approving in some eyes, (my story is my reality ) As I was posting before your journey started what makes you think you have authority to tell me what to post. you and your click ( of friends ) really need to check yourselves and check the rules of the Sub- Saharan board. Your all members here, you don't run nothing, and you surely don't run me, nor do you have control over any thing I decide to post.

Actually I do know of one person that has decided to withdraw her petittion, but that was her decision , not mines, you Omoba don't know the many people that I talk to, nor do you know the many people that read my post, why do you think I continue to post, it's not for you but for the one's that decide to e-mail me because they can relate to what I'm saying. Heck your husband isn't even here yet, so I don't expect you to relate to me yet.

I never look to destroy a relationship, but like I have said, when one person in a relationship doesen't want the marriage to work, it won't, because the agendas weren't the same. You Omoba, are in AP, you don't know what will come off that plane once he arrives. You may say well we have a baby, well a baby didn't stop a medical doctor from leaving , I dought if it stops your husband if that's what he wants to do so. Actually you have no clue who is keeping your husband warm at nite. You call yourself Omoba, but the reality is that you don't know if your the second or third wife. I have posted in the Effects area, and I will continue to post wherever I desire, YOU won't dictact where I decide to share or provide information,nor will you dictate what information I share !!! While you and the others are sitting waiting for your men to arrive I can only guess that some of you will go down the same journey that I experienced, and Omoba, my feeling is that you will be within the group that will end up being deceived. I only hope that your women enough to post your story. Omoba will you post your story?

Omoba your on this site acting like you grew up with your husband and know him very well, you only know of what he (and others ) tell you. A scam wouldn't be a scam if it were detectable before it's too late. Although I'm wishing the best for everyone that petitions for an Alien to into the states, I'm at a place in this visa journey where I know that's not realistic.

[Ta Ta 1]

Reported for personal accusation of my SO being deceitful and having more than one wife.

By the way, I am a k1 if you have not noticed.

The admin is Ewok not Wok and it was Noah not Noel that was called by God to tell about the flood. I think you work for the opposite camp and to compare yourself to Noah is well....ehem....never mind.

I base my post on the TOS part that mentions "accusations that are interfering with enjoyment of this site " and have no problem with someone posting their story, but you are on a mission to seek and destroy ( especially newbies ) and it is getting weird. My suggestion was to contain it to the effects forum where it may benefit someone. Though I have no desire to control posters, it is my simple suggestion to contain your ramblings of doom and gloom for the sake of board etiquette and adhere to the purpose of this site, which is IN FAVOR of bringing our loving African SO's here. That IS the purpose of this site. You work against that.

No, you are not my kind of restaurant I would eat in and yet the stench keeps coming when I pass it on the way to a place called

encouragement and support.

Have a nice weekend !

[Ta Ta 1]

You are finished with your VISA journey, that is correct. But do you understand that fact ?

[LovinLiberia 0]

Efia06

I totally agree with you when you typed the one thing you can be sure of is 'God, for he will never leave you nor forsake you. Regardless of where you are from, where he is from, regardless of your tribes tradition, no 2 people that join themselves together are guaranteed to stay together. Heck even in America there are some African couples that find themselves in line to seek divorce papers.

Boo Boo

Why label me depressed ? I assure you that all is well here. My story might make you depressed, however I'm the one that lived it and I can assure you there is life after a fraudulent international marriage, once again, I tell my story NOT due to being deeply depressed, but to let the newbies on here no of the possibility of their relationship. There are people on here that are currently going thru what I have went thru and I predict there will be more that will gradually tread down that road. I hope that your not one of them, since you already know about what I'm going to type and it offends YOU to read it, please reframe from reading it or open it and reoffend yourself. It's your choice.

As for me I will continue to do what I feel is best.

Idocare

the forum " effects of major family changes on immigration benefits " would be a place to take your posts to help someone with what to do AFTER

their marriage has fallen apart.

Here, in the sub-saharan we are happy, content couples, waiting to be with our SO's. Sometimes we hurt due to the separation and long AP is devastating.

I find you are trying to break up happy couples by sowing doubt into every relationship here and in a very subtle manner try to erode all that is good and hopeful.

You seem to lack insight and awareness that you have absolutely no control over our choices and relationships.

We all are aware of scammers as intelligent woman and know what goes on with deception. We are not teenagers in puppy love making irrational

choices and you are not the self appointed guru on a mountain top that you may think you are, here to enlighten us.

You are insulting our intelligence if you think you will make anyone drop a petition because YOUR own marriage failed.

The atmosphere of this sub-saharan forum does not need negativity but encouragement and support in a warm environment. That is the purpose

of this visa journey site.

There is as I said the " effects....." section where situations are addressed such as what you experienced and to contain those issues to a separate forum.

By coming here and saying the sky is falling , the sky is falling you will accomplish nothing.

You posted a Happy New Years thread and in the same sentence started your " they only want green cards rant........."

Again on Valentines Day you posted negativity.

Holidays still rough for you ? Momma ain't happy ain't nobody happy ?

Why post this mess on every holiday ? Why post it in a thread of someone who just made a topic about a happy breakthrough in her journey ?

What is really YOUR motive here other than trying to sow discord between couples with doubt and accusations ?

It is like a toothache that won't stop and we are tired of it here. Please take it to the appropriate forum of divorce. There you can do some good maybe.

It just seems so out of place here among joyful and happy posters.

Three years ago you divorced, yet you are still here trying to sow doubt.

When will you realize that your attempts of co transfering and projecting and force feeding your personal experience onto us will not stop a single petition ?

When will you realize that we have a brain and have thought about pros and cons for ourselves ?

Noobies may be new to VJ but I find them to be intelligent, strong woman , very capable of making their own decisions.

If anyone has a problem I believe they would post in the correct forum for actual help on how or if to proceed.

This is an immigration site and not an ANTI AFRICAN immigration site.

I am not negating your pain and have told you before I am sorry you had to go through that..........just saying time to find a different approach.

I also believe it takes two to tango and you must take responsibility for your own choices, be accountable and stop the victim mentality.

You still sound like a victim, time to get strong and forget and forgive to open the door for new love in your live.

The horse has been dead long ago !

Woooooow! The two posts by Omoba and Ebonyqueen totally summed up EVERY though I have had about this situation.

I have also been meaning to ask this question. Idocare keeps mentioning that we don't have read her story if we don't want to. Why do you (Idocare) insist on fooling us into reading them. Your happy New Year's thread was titled along the lines of "Happy New Year, 2008". This one was titled "Internet Love". Those give NO HINTS to the negativity to that we are about to encounter. You always try to sneak it in somehow. I've said it before, there is a time and a place to tell your story or as you call it "enlighten" us.

Omoba,

Last I checked Captain Wok was the person overseeing this site. Why do you feel that you can control Sub Saharan did you buy it from Captain Wok ? At this moment I'm not understanding your post directed to me. From what I can see you have only been a member here since August 2006, and this is an open forum, Omoba your just a member here you have no right to tell me or anyone else where to post messages. How dare you, do you think if you told me to jump up and down that I would? Who do you think you are, I'll tell you who you are, you are a member of this forum and NOTHING more. I have been posting here since 2003 and never once have I seen your name as owner of this site, where do you get off susgesting that I post somewhere else.

Listen to me, your not the moderator for this site and if you were appointed a moderator you need to read about what's to be posted here and fall back into line as a member just like me, I don't know why you feel like you have the power to tell people where they should post, or talk about what you and others are so tired of reading. As long as I adhere to Captian Woks instructions I don't care what you and others are tired of, do I live for you ??? Are you sending me money and paying my bills ? No your not. So you have no right to open your mouth asking me to post somewhere else, I have been posting here before you knew this site existed and you think you can tell me something ?you may get away with that with some but not me, I'll never let YOU control me, nor will you ever have control of where I choose to post. What you do have control over is choosing not to read my post, especially if you already know what it's gonna be about, why do you continue to burden yourself with reading it? Hummm.

Noel kept telling people the ran is coming the rain is coming and there were some that listened to him and saved themselves, so If I choose to repost a message or how many times I decide to discuss my message on this open forum is my business.

I have yet to meet an intelligent person that will join somebody else's establishment then speak out as if they are the owner and try to run the show. A intelligent person will join the club already knowing that they are just a member, they will adhere by the rules of the club and not try to control something that they have no control over. they will go to a restaurant they enjoy eating at. A person that lacks intelligence will join a establishment then attempt to take over, they will think more of themselves then what they are, they will repeatedly go to a restaurant they feel has bad food and continously complain about the food.

If my post don't apply to you, why worry about it, there has been many that have experienced what I've experienced and there are some post ( not by me ) that thank me for posting, why do you continue to read my post, are you fishing for something ? I don't know why you feel the Sub-Saharan full of happy folks when I and others which fall within the sub saharan are at different stages in our VJ . Everybody from Sub Saharan isn't where you are therefore have different experiences to share. I'm not where your at on this journey, but I will tell my story even if it's not approving in some eyes, (my story is my reality ) As I was posting before your journey started what makes you think you have authority to tell me what to post. you and your click ( of friends ) really need to check yourselves and check the rules of the Sub- Saharan board. Your all members here, you don't run nothing, and you surely don't run me, nor do you have control over any thing I decide to post.

Actually I do know of one person that has decided to withdraw her petittion, but that was her decision , not mines, you Omoba don't know the many people that I talk to, nor do you know the many people that read my post, why do you think I continue to post, it's not for you but for the one's that decide to e-mail me because they can relate to what I'm saying. Heck your husband isn't even here yet, so I don't expect you to relate to me yet.

I never look to destroy a relationship, but like I have said, when one person in a relationship doesen't want the marriage to work, it won't, because the agendas weren't the same. You Omoba, are in AP, you don't know what will come off that plane once he arrives. You may say well we have a baby, well a baby didn't stop a medical doctor from leaving , I dought if it stops your husband if that's what he wants to do so. Actually you have no clue who is keeping your husband warm at nite. You call yourself Omoba, but the reality is that you don't know if your the second or third wife. I have posted in the Effects area, and I will continue to post wherever I desire, YOU won't dictact where I decide to share or provide information,nor will you dictate what information I share !!! While you and the others are sitting waiting for your men to arrive I can only guess that some of you will go down the same journey that I experienced, and Omoba, my feeling is that you will be within the group that will end up being deceived. I only hope that your women enough to post your story. Omoba will you post your story?

Omoba your on this site acting like you grew up with your husband and know him very well, you only know of what he (and others ) tell you. A scam wouldn't be a scam if it were detectable before it's too late. Although I'm wishing the best for everyone that petitions for an Alien to into the states, I'm at a place in this visa journey where I know that's not realistic.

Idocare, after reading one of the most negative posts I have ever seen, I thoroughly believe that you DESERVED every bit of what that man did to you. If that is how you think, act, and behave when someone gives you the truth, then I would have left you high and dry, too. What man wants to be with a woman who constantly puts people down, such as yourself? How dare you tell someone that her husband is cheating on her or that she is possibly the second or third wife. You've been through this journey yourself and you know the feelings of happiness, sadness, lonliness, etc. that we all go through. You KNOW that she and others are on AP. How could someone in their right mind INTENTIONALLY cut and hurt someone knowing the pain they must already be experiencing from this journey.

All that sh!t you just typed contradicted itself. You tell her she is not in control, but yet you come off as The Master of Know it All. You basically tell her and the rest of us that since we didn't join in 2003 that we have NO RIGHT to post or have an opinion. Who are YOU to constantly harass us little, tiny, opinionless members with your hate, negativity, and bashing (disguised as a story)? You feel as if only you and your CLIQUE are right or have the right to speak, don't you? There are people who actually do take the time to investigate and get to know the person they are dealing with. Don't knock us for doing something you didn't. Yes, we all know of the risks of scammers and users, but we are also grown enough to overcome the situation if we find ourselves in it.

Your post has me convinced that YOU are the very reason that you are still bitter, twisted, sick, and negative. YOU are the reason behind three years of hatred and anger. YOU are the reason that you found yourself in your particular situation. You blame your ex and you damn sure are trying to somehow blame us for "being too blind to our own misery". Idocare, when will you learn to blame yourself?

[Queen Jenn 0]

You are finished with your VISA journey, that is correct. But do you understand that fact ?

Yeah, my understanding is that this is a site for people who are CURRENTLY in the immigration process. . . . .

[LovinLiberia 0]

Reported for personal accusation of my SO being deceitful and having more than one wife.

By the way, I am a k1 if you have not noticed.

The admin is Ewok not Wok and it was Noah not Noel that was called by God to tell about the flood. I think you work for the opposite camp and to compare yourself to Noah is well....ehem....never mind.

I base my post on the TOS part that mentions "accusations that are interfering with enjoyment of this site " and have no problem with someone posting their story, but you are on a mission to seek and destroy ( especially newbies ) and it is getting weird. My suggestion was to contain it to the effects forum where it may benefit someone. Though I have no desire to control posters, it is my simple suggestion to contain your ramblings of doom and gloom for the sake of board etiquette and adhere to the purpose of this site, which is IN FAVOR of bringing our loving African SO's here. That IS the purpose of this site. You work against that.

No, you are not my kind of restaurant I would eat in and yet the stench keeps coming when I pass it on the way to a place called

encouragement and support.

Have a nice weekend !

Once again, another excellent post.

[boo boo 1]

Wow....outstanding posts ebonyqueen, omoba, and lovinliberia....and I believe that this is a forum for people currently going thru the process... and it should be a supportive forum. Idocare, if you are really trying to "help" people, then it would be more beneficial for you to post it in the proper forum....this is not the place (over and over during holidays or on joyous occassions), as you can see.

Please respect everyones opinion, you are causing more harm then good...the proof is in your postings. It is insane how you have tried to ruin someones day on many many different occasions, I hope that it ends TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Simply_Uno 1]

good afternoon,

this has been...entertaining and miseducational as well.

my telepathic transmiter is currently out of range that is priceless (I LOVE IT )

Noel and the ran...I guess if "Noel was telling me it was going to ran" I would have ran also , but if Noah was telling me about the rain , now that deserves attention B)

and pray tell...who is this Captain Wok...{the great VJ administrator from da' hood!}

and did I hear some one mention VJ stock???? how much is "that" going for?

y'all don't mind UNO, I'm just trying to lighten the mood,

its thicker than new england fog after the rain on a humid day.

now I'm going back to doing one of the things that entertains me the most...

Edited February 17, 2008 by unononehigher

[idocare 3]

Correction noted, Captain Ewok and Noel, thanks.

I never seen where it said that I had to be waiting for a Alien to come or because my journey is at a certain point, or even finished that I can't post. Omoba called me out, so I addressed her. I told her how I feel as she shared with me how is feels. I shared my predicament for her VJ. Those are my feelings, if she feel that I'm wrong that's her feelings however those feelings aren't shared by me. Now what ???

Some here know me personally, they know of my personality, some that have posted about how bitter they feel I'm or I must be angry don't know me.

If you want a froum of everything positive maybe you should think about starting a thread titled for happy couples only. If you choose to read my thread and YOU find it offensive, remember that you have control over your mouse to click off or to pass it by.

Remeber that this is a open forum, it's not meant strictly for those who Alien spouse is abroad only. If a person that went thru this journey back in the year 2000 decided to post a thread they are indeed welcomed to do that, other members have no right to discourage them nor do you have a right to tell them where to post.

Please remember that your only a member here just like the rest of us, I'm asking that you respect my right to post, and my right to freedom of speech. If you don't enjoy the message don't continue to listen to it. That's your right, but never try to take over a messengers message.

Omoba you need to revisit the guidelines for this room before posting, then if you don't want to obide by Captain Woks rules you are free to remove yourself.