Problem My K1 visa applicant is here I suspect fraud

[sukie175 0]

I think it is perfectly OK to point out that older men in this country are putting a loaded pistol to their head and hoping it doesn't go off when getting involved with a much younger woman from overseas. The chances for fraud are greater than the chances she is honest and loves you. This is just a simple fact that cannot be avoided.

Of course, that doesn't change the pain Robert is going through and my heart goes out to him. I hope she gets her @ss deported because that is what she deserves.

What the heck is wrong with some people?????

Matt, you might think that fraudulent visa applicants only come in ONE age group, sex and nationality-but they don't. As I said earlier, I still wish you the best Robert and am very sorry

Where in his post does Matt say that "fraudulent visa applicants only come in ONE age group, sex and nationality"? Is it insensitive to merely point out the fact that fraud happens more often in cases with certain characteristics than others? Come on!

I also think this point cannot be ignored, to do so or to attack it is jusy naivety. Having said that we all know this is not true in the the majority of large age difference cases, but sometimes and with some nationalities, very sadly it is. Robert as I said before very sorry and wish you an easy route out.

This is where the bigotry and narrow-mindedness comes to the surface. Where in Robert's posting has he ever mentioned the age difference as the *defacto* causal element in this unfortunate situation?

Unfortunately, it only exists in the minds of some readers of this thread. A few here assume this to be the reason for possible fraud. Could it be that she simply never loved him, regardless of age?

For those of you that do not know the definition of bigot here it is;

bigot

One entry found for bigot.

Main Entry: big·ot

Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle French, hypocrite, bigot

: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

- big·ot·ed /-g&-t&d/ adjective

- big·ot·ed·ly adverb

Could it be that you are hypersensitive this because of the age spread in your own relationship? No one ever said that a large age spread would necessarily indicate fraud. There's no reason for name calling here. And thank you for the dictionary definition, but I think most of us are aware of what a bigot is.

I've said what I think and I am not going to get into flaming on this sad thread. Plus you are wasting your time trying to reason with this person Jenn!

[kaydee457 13]

I think it is perfectly OK to point out that older men in this country are putting a loaded pistol to their head and hoping it doesn't go off when getting involved with a much younger woman from overseas. The chances for fraud are greater than the chances she is honest and loves you. This is just a simple fact that cannot be avoided.

Of course, that doesn't change the pain Robert is going through and my heart goes out to him. I hope she gets her @ss deported because that is what she deserves.

What the heck is wrong with some people?????

Matt, you might think that fraudulent visa applicants only come in ONE age group, sex and nationality-but they don't. As I said earlier, I still wish you the best Robert and am very sorry

Where in his post does Matt say that "fraudulent visa applicants only come in ONE age group, sex and nationality"? Is it insensitive to merely point out the fact that fraud happens more often in cases with certain characteristics than others? Come on!

I also think this point cannot be ignored, to do so or to attack it is jusy naivety. Having said that we all know this is not true in the the majority of large age difference cases, but sometimes and with some nationalities, very sadly it is. Robert as I said before very sorry and wish you an easy route out.

This is where the bigotry and narrow-mindedness comes to the surface. Where in Robert's posting has he ever mentioned the age difference as the *defacto* causal element in this unfortunate situation?

Unfortunately, it only exists in the minds of some readers of this thread. A few here assume this to be the reason for possible fraud. Could it be that she simply never loved him, regardless of age?

For those of you that do not know the definition of bigot here it is;

bigot

One entry found for bigot.

Main Entry: big·ot

Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle French, hypocrite, bigot

: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

- big·ot·ed /-g&-t&d/ adjective

- big·ot·ed·ly adverb

Could it be that you are hypersensitive this because of the age spread in your own relationship? No one ever said that a large age spread would necessarily indicate fraud. There's no reason for name calling here. And thank you for the dictionary definition, but I think most of us are aware of what a bigot is.

No I'm not hypersensitive. I do not subscribe to bigotry of any kind. I am white and my wife is black in addition to the age difference.

No one ever said that a large age spread would necessarily indicate fraud.

I suggest you go back and read all the postings before you comment as you clearly aren't doing that.

Once again, my apologies to Robert.

Edited April 27, 2006 by kaydee457

[Jenn! 918]

I think it is perfectly OK to point out that older men in this country are putting a loaded pistol to their head and hoping it doesn't go off when getting involved with a much younger woman from overseas. The chances for fraud are greater than the chances she is honest and loves you. This is just a simple fact that cannot be avoided.

Of course, that doesn't change the pain Robert is going through and my heart goes out to him. I hope she gets her @ss deported because that is what she deserves.

What the heck is wrong with some people?????

Matt, you might think that fraudulent visa applicants only come in ONE age group, sex and nationality-but they don't. As I said earlier, I still wish you the best Robert and am very sorry

Where in his post does Matt say that "fraudulent visa applicants only come in ONE age group, sex and nationality"? Is it insensitive to merely point out the fact that fraud happens more often in cases with certain characteristics than others? Come on!

I also think this point cannot be ignored, to do so or to attack it is jusy naivety. Having said that we all know this is not true in the the majority of large age difference cases, but sometimes and with some nationalities, very sadly it is. Robert as I said before very sorry and wish you an easy route out.

This is where the bigotry and narrow-mindedness comes to the surface. Where in Robert's posting has he ever mentioned the age difference as the *defacto* causal element in this unfortunate situation?

Unfortunately, it only exists in the minds of some readers of this thread. A few here assume this to be the reason for possible fraud. Could it be that she simply never loved him, regardless of age?

For those of you that do not know the definition of bigot here it is;

bigot

One entry found for bigot.

Main Entry: big·ot

Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle French, hypocrite, bigot

: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

- big·ot·ed /-g&-t&d/ adjective

- big·ot·ed·ly adverb

Could it be that you are hypersensitive this because of the age spread in your own relationship? No one ever said that a large age spread would necessarily indicate fraud. There's no reason for name calling here. And thank you for the dictionary definition, but I think most of us are aware of what a bigot is.

I've said what I think and I am not going to get into flaming on this sad thread. Plus you are wasting your time trying to reason with this person Jenn!

You're right!

[kaydee457 13]

You cannot "reason" with me because the lot of you have the same presumption that most western women have......

like I said, bigots.

[rebeccajo 14]

I saw Robert on this thread about 2 hours ago. I'm pretty sure that hashing the age difference isn't doing anything to help him feel less embarrassed about his situation. And it doesn't matter if he shouldn't feel embarrassed....he said he was - those are his feelings - and right now he could use our support.

[pax 0]

I saw Robert on this thread about 2 hours ago. I'm pretty sure that hashing the age difference isn't doing anything to help him feel less embarrassed about his situation. And it doesn't matter if he shouldn't feel embarrassed....he said he was - those are his feelings - and right now he could use our support.

Aye, Rebecca.

[rebeccajo 14]

You cannot "reason" with me because the lot of you have the same presumption that most western women have......

like I said, bigots.

And you, sir, - could you try being a little less pompous? Unless it's too much bother to come off your self-appointed pillar?

[Melo 1]

The man needs support - what he does not need is people sitting in judgement.... how can anyone presume to know what is what with regard to another person's relationship? If you can't be supportive keep quiet.

So sorry to hear about what you are going through Robert (((((HUGS)))))

[Sister Fracas 5]

You cannot "reason" with me because the lot of you have the same presumption that most western women have......

like I said, bigots.

your point is diminished with comments like this....

I actually agree with what I "think" is your main point, that age shouldn't have been mentioned...it was just very rude.

I saw Robert on this thread about 2 hours ago. I'm pretty sure that hashing the age difference isn't doing anything to help him feel less embarrassed about his situation. And it doesn't matter if he shouldn't feel embarrassed....he said he was - those are his feelings - and right now he could use our support.

Aye, Rebecca.

Robert, sorry to hear this happened to you..no one deserves to be lied to.

You cannot "reason" with me because the lot of you have the same presumption that most western women have......

like I said, bigots.

And you, sir, - could you try being a little less pompous? Unless it's too much bother to come off your self-appointed pillar?

spot on! lol

[Indo_mommy 0]

just make sure the next fish is within a decade of your age and you probbly won't have this problem next time.

That is totally rude! There are oppurtunist everywhere and it have nothing to do with age! C'mon grow up!

[TracyTN 237]

Robert, the MAJORITY of us hope that you take care of yourself first and foremost and we feel bad about what has happened.

Take care.

Edited April 27, 2006 by TracyTN

[drogger1 0]

Sorry to hear of your problems Robert. I agree with the posters who advised you to document what is going on and to contact ICE right away.

To those of you who have turned this thread in to a train wreck, shame on you.

Edited April 27, 2006 by drogger1

[jelti 0]

I am embarressd to post time but my fiancee is here from Bogota and think here under false pretenses. I suspected something was up so I installed a software on my computer to track email and messenger. She is professing her love to someone and making plans to flee in the country. If I book here a return flight to Bogota do I need to escort her home. The flight has a connection in Houston. If her plan is to flee she could run at the airport or never make the connection in Houston is flying by herself. I can not belive this is happening but what is my responsibilty to make sure she leaves the country? Wow a almost a year to get a visa, and one week to find out it is all bogus.

Thanks for your help/advice

Robert

Robert,

You seriously need to talk to her.

Some people go online to have a laugh and say completely crazy, ridiculous things simply because they're bored! Before you end this, TALK TO HER. She might have just been messing around. Lots of people LIE on the internet. I mean, back when I used to use instant messenger, I had guys constantly pming me telling me they were princes of their home country. Now, sure...maybe one or two of them actually were princes (doubt it), but the fact is, I can almost promise you that most of them were lying...and probably just to have some fun.

Now, I'm not saying her e-flirting was morally right...but neither was your spying.

Whatever happens, I wish you luck and peace.

[dmartmar 1]

First of all; why did this turn from one thing into a complete other thing?

Ok, now onto the true subject matter.

Robert:

report her butt right away to the 'CIS and ICE. Do not confront her, nor question anything at all. Just let it be, play dumb, don't tell her anything about your suspicions and much less about reporting her to the proper authorities. Do all of this behind her back. Document everything you can and if there are any e-mails or messenger conversations you saved, print them out and send them off. After doing all of this, just wait for the 'CIS to send you, or her, a letter ordering her to depart asap. Give it to her and let her be. Tell her she can stay with you until her departure date, that you're willing to purchase her one-way ticket back home and drive her to the airport. Once you drop her off at the airport, you're no longer responsible for her or for whatever she does after you leave her. While she waits for her departure date, make sure you sleep in different rooms and STAY AWAY FROM HER! Even though she's here on a visa and is not married to you yet, she can still go to the police and claim abuse. So KEEP AWAY FROM HER and DOCUMENT EVERYTHING.

Robert,

You seriously need to talk to her.

Some people go online to have a laugh and say completely crazy, ridiculous things simply because they're bored! Before you end this, TALK TO HER. She might have just been messing around. Lots of people LIE on the internet. I mean, back when I used to use instant messenger, I had guys constantly pming me telling me they were princes of their home country. Now, sure...maybe one or two of them actually were princes (doubt it), but the fact is, I can almost promise you that most of them were lying...and probably just to have some fun.

Now, I'm not saying her e-flirting was morally right...but neither was your spying.

Robert, since it is your house, your computer and she's not even your wife yet AFTER all the waiting and money you've spent to get her here in the 1st place, your spying is completely justified and proper. Send her back to where she came from and have no remorse about it.

Edited April 27, 2006 by dmartmar

[Karel 0]

I'm very sorry to hear what happened to you Robert but it's a reality that we have to face. I'm a Filipina who became a US Citizen and I've known a lot of stories like yours. The good thing with a K1 visa is we are protected up to the time our fiance/e get their permanent green card which can take about 3 years. A close friend of mine had the same situation and fortunately for her she found out the truth before they lifted her husband's temporary status. She reported him to the immigration, wrote a letter withdrawing her support & petition, and sent evidences of the cheating. The "jERK" got deported!!!

Take care and wish you well. However, remember that not everyone is the same. Goodluck!!!