Plane Ticket

[Don E 0]

Claudeth came on a one-way ticket. Buy whichever is cheapest

It is a specific requirement of Egypt from what I read and heard before. SO what others from anywhere but Egypt unfortunately does not apply. We wish it did.

Cheryl

That's interesting to me, and I'm curious to understand how that works. While I've been to several countries, I've never been to Egypt. And of course I always see things from a USC perspective. I didn't realize that some airlines actually look at the documents you would need to legally enter the destination country. When you buy a ticket from an airline, you are basically entering into an agreement that they will transport you from one airport to another. I didn't think that they concerned themselves much about what happens after you deplane at the airport.....they've fulfilled the agreement. Yes, they provide forms that you can complete and give to Customs, but that's about it. And if you are denied entry to the U.S. Are you saying that you are required to show the airline the visa that you will be using to enter the U.S. before they will allow you to get on the flight? I guess I'm not understanding what interest the airlines have in what type of visa you have or even if you have one. Or, am I missing the point? When you say "Egypt", are you referring to some governmental regulation or requirement?

I'm just a slow country boy, so I apologize if I'm not as worldly as some, but I'm interested in learning!

[payxibka 10,047]

I'm just a slow country boy, so I apologize if I'm not as worldly as some, but I'm interested in learning!

I think they are indicating it is some sort of governmental exit procedure/check in addition to any airline document check......

[Ahmed N Cheryl 0]

Claudeth came on a one-way ticket. Buy whichever is cheapest

It is a specific requirement of Egypt from what I read and heard before. SO what others from anywhere but Egypt unfortunately does not apply. We wish it did.

Cheryl

That's interesting to me, and I'm curious to understand how that works. While I've been to several countries, I've never been to Egypt. And of course I always see things from a USC perspective. I didn't realize that some airlines actually look at the documents you would need to legally enter the destination country. When you buy a ticket from an airline, you are basically entering into an agreement that they will transport you from one airport to another. I didn't think that they concerned themselves much about what happens after you deplane at the airport.....they've fulfilled the agreement. Yes, they provide forms that you can complete and give to Customs, but that's about it. And if you are denied entry to the U.S. Are you saying that you are required to show the airline the visa that you will be using to enter the U.S. before they will allow you to get on the flight? I guess I'm not understanding what interest the airlines have in what type of visa you have or even if you have one. Or, am I missing the point? When you say "Egypt", are you referring to some governmental regulation or requirement?

I'm just a slow country boy, so I apologize if I'm not as worldly as some, but I'm interested in learning!

Well I am not sure of all the details....but from what I am told it is an Egyptian Government regulation. But that is what we are trying to clarify.....to make sure.

[Ahmed N Cheryl 0]

I have emailed the embassy.............The NVC.............and the egyptain Military. Hopefully, I will get an answer from one of them that will clarify this matter.

Cheryl

[LynnandAhmed 0]

I found an answer by a lawyer on the net.....

A K1 Fiance visa would solve your problem; she can use a one way ticket with that visa. Perhaps you need to change your timeline?

[LynnandAhmed 0]

I found an answer by a lawyer on the net.....

A K1 Fiance visa would solve your problem; she can use a one way ticket with that visa. Perhaps you need to change your timeline?

Another item I found:

flight ticket ,one-way or 2-way ????? HELP

A one-way ticket is fine. The assumption of INS and customs is that a

K-1 holder is here to stay.

Be careful about buying a RT ticket and only using one leg. In the

fine print, some airlines (if their one-way is more expensive) reserve

the right to charge you extra for not using the return flight. If you

pay by credit card, it makes it very easy for them to do this

[LynnandAhmed 0]

I found this too..........

I would strongly suggest to get her a one way ticket because she is coming using K-1 visa. It would help her a lot at the immigration checkpoint. Hope this helps!

since I found one way tickets cheaper by about 400 dollars, I think that I will buy a one way.

[payxibka 10,047]

Be careful about buying a RT ticket and only using one leg. In the fine print, some airlines (if their one-way is more expensive) reserve the right to charge you extra for not using the return flight. If you pay by credit card, it makes it very easy for them to do this

Being an ex-airline guy I can tell you the above never happens where the airline will "ding" you for not using the return segment... They will cancel if you do not use the opening segment but nothing will happen on the return...

[Ahmed N Cheryl 0]

Just FYI from Egyptian Air......It does not say that a round trip is a requirement..but it says if you fail to comply with the laws and regulations of the departure country they can refuse you carriage. My Fiancee had his Father call and check and was told with a K1 visa you are REQUIRED to purchase a round trip ticket. Maybe they lied to him I do not know but I will pay the extra $400 for the round trip rather to take the chance they refuse carriage and a refund of the ticket you already bought. I know his Fatehr was told it is a require ment of the government not the airline. But of course it is not written law anywhere. SO maybe the one way will work. My personal choice is I have waited this long I will pay the extra $400 to make sure nothing can stop or delay him.

ARTICLE 13 - ADMINISTRATIVE FORMALITIES

13.1 General

13.1.1 You are responsible for obtaining all required travel documents and visas and for complying with all laws,

regulations, orders, demands and travel requirements of countries to be flown from, into or through which you

transit.

13.1.2 EGYPTAIR shall not be liable for the consequences to any passenger resulting from his or her failure to

obtain such documents or visas or to comply with such laws, regulations, orders, demands, requirements, rules or

instructions.

13.2 Travel Documents

Prior to travel, you must present all exit, entry, health and other documents required by law, regulation, order,

demand or other requirement of the countries concerned, and permit EGYPTAIR to take and retain copies thereof.

EGYPTAIR reserve the right to refuse carriage if you have not complied with these requirements, or your travel

documents do not appear to be in order.

13.3 Refusal of Entry

If you are denied entry into any country, you will be responsible to pay any fine or charge assessed against

EGYPTAIR by the Government concerned and for the cost of transporting you from that country. The fare collected

for carriage to the point of refusal or denied entry will not be refunded by EGYPTAIR

13.4 Passenger Responsible For Fines, Detention Costs, Etc.

If EGYPTAIR is required to pay any fine or penalty or to incur any expenditure by reason of your failure to comply

with laws, regulations, orders, demands or other travel requirements of the countries concerned or to produce the

required documents, you shall reimburse EGYPTAIR on demand, any amount so paid or expenditure so incurred.

EGYPTAIR may apply towards such payment or expenditure the value of any unused carriage on your ticket, or any

of your funds in EGYPTAIR possession.

13.5 Customs Inspection

If required, you shall attend inspection of your Baggage, by customs or other Government officials. EGYPTAIR is not

liable to you for any loss or damage suffered by you in the course of such inspection or through your failure to comply

with this requirement.

13.6 Security Inspection

You shall submit to any security checks by Governments, airport officials, Carriers or by EGYPTAIR.

Cheryl

[Ahmed N Cheryl 0]

More FYI from Egypt Air Site.....I bolded the ones that concern me. But again it is just my opinion that a round trip ticket the best solution. I would not want to have my SO turned away and then fight a legal battle saying it should not have happened. That may be worse than AP.

/ 21FEB08 / 0035 UTC

National EGYPT (ARAB REPUBLIC OF) (EG)

Embarkation EGYPT (ARAB REPUBLIC OF) (EG)

Destination U.S.A. (US)

U.S.A. (US)

Passport required (must be valid at time of entry; passenger

may be authorized to stay until the expiry date of the

passport). For validity see: For details, click here - Item 2.

Visa required.

Passport and visa are not required if holding:

Form I-512 ( Authorization for Parole of an Alien into the

United States").

* If coming directly from Guam or Virgin Isl: pre-inspection

by the USA Customs and Border Protection (CBP) will have

taken place prior to embarkation, when passengers are

required to provide proof of their legal right to enter

the U.S.A.

If coming directly from Puerto Rico: pre-inspection may take

place by CBP prior to embarkation, when passengers are

required to provide their documents and proof of their legal

right to enter U.S.A.;

* if not holding tickets and documents required for return/

onward destination, entry may be refused and deportation may

follow. This is at discretion of Immigration Authorities;

* non-compliance with entry requirements will result in fines

varying between USD 2,000 and USD 3,000 per passenger

and either deportation or indefinite delay for passenger

at point of entry (detention costs at carrier's expense).

* fines for incomplete/inaccurately filled out I-94 or I-94W

Forms: USD 1,000.- per passenger;

Cheryl

[Ahmed N Cheryl 0]

Lynn my Ahmed said since your ahmed is only son he does not have military so he is probably okay with one way. Laura fiancee is over 30 and he had one way.

Cheryl

[LynnandAhmed 0]

Lynn my Ahmed said since your ahmed is only son he does not have military so he is probably okay with one way. Laura fiancee is over 30 and he had one way.

Cheryl

Thanks Cheryl.

Yes, Ahmed is an only son, and almost 30 so he doesn't have to serve in the military.

We are going to do the one way.

Been checking out the flights on Mobissimo.com and expedia.com and edreams.com. and vayama.com.

Those are my favorites.

Looks around 1000 dollars all the way to San Fran.............times range for 17 to 30 hours.......