Case on hold for calling too much!

[panamania79 2]

Tell me, what is the litmus test....how many months do we have to have waited before we can comment on an action we feel is not "advisable"?

Calling USCIS on a line dedicated for something else, is not an extreme measure. Its just someone feeling they are entitled to something more than the multitude of average people who file their petitions, have no VJ, don't know the "RFE trick" and wait, and wait and wait.

-P

I wont call them, I will wait exactly the seven months, technically it is six months and then you contact your rep Senator Congress person and they can get involved at the seven month period. That is my plan which I will follow if nothing comes up.

Calling USCIS to me has become a joke, if they did their jobs correctly and I dont mean processing in a normal manner, I understand the backlog, but the misinformation is what tee's me off to the 18th hole, that is my argument. Do not tell someone something that you do not know when its your job and your title function to be CSR or IO unless you know exactly what is going on.

Why do people get so upset besides the craziness of the timelines right now, again ask yourself this....if someone said, we are out of control here sorry mates, but give us a few months to sort things out, or maybe a year, well you get the jest, you can try to plan your life around that, but as it stands, five people called USCIS in one day, with the same question, and yes, true story , five different answers and not one was even remotely close to another. That is not how an agency, corporation non profit for profit should operate. That is called mismangement - and if that were my job, I would be fired, flat out the door on my ####### for that issue alone.

So that is why I do not call them anymore - why should I - they will say exactly what their website says and that is not saying alot nowadays.

Cheers

[MsZ 6]

You cannot _make_ USCIS go any faster. This idea that calling will somehow move things along is not only ridiculous, but unproven. It may make you feel better, as though you are doing something, but you are wasting resources.

When my kids get in trouble for talking in class, I tell them they are stealing from the rest of the students. They are stealing time, attention and resources. They do it because they are immature and also they think that whatever they have to say is the most important thing in the world. But of course, they are wrong.

Nobody here has a case that is any more important than anyone else's. We all have to wait for our slice of USCIS' time. Anyone that is eligible for expedited processing can do so. The rest of us have to wait our turn.

I'm most certainly a person of action. But I also know when it is a waste of my own resources to pursue a course of action that will not result in any positive change. I have a job, a family, a life. And if I spend my time taking care of those things, I have less time to worry about how long USCIS is taking. When I embarked on this "journey" I understood that it would take a long time. Understanding the process, the risks, the potential for being denied, etc. is part of the deal.

Nobody promised anyone anything except the right to submit paperwork and apply for a visa. This is not a guarantee that anyone will be allowed into the US let alone that anyone will be processed within a given period of time.

I see unapologetic people who believe they are somehow entitled to more than others and I'm not impressed with the attitude. If you want to be like a spoiled child and call the RFE line for something o ther than its stated purpose, don't expect anyone to approve or to be upset that someone there gave you a hard time. Becky probably has to deal with dozens of people just like you every day and I'm sure that it wears on the staff.

[Elbereth 0]

your case might have been delayed a little because of the transfer from nebrasca to california... besides, it's been taking up to 8 months now, right?

I'm sure you're about to get your NOA2, don't fret

[SusieK 3]

see unapologetic people who believe they are somehow entitled to more than others and I'm not impressed with the attitude. If you want to be like a spoiled child and call the RFE line for something o ther than its stated purpose, don't expect anyone to approve or to be upset that someone there gave you a hard time. Becky probably has to deal with dozens of people just like you every day and I'm sure that it wears on the staff.

.............................................I think Becky has more than a dozen people to deal with and for obvious reasons. To categorize the OP as unaplogetic is somewhat shallow, he made a remark, he said yeah I am sorry, lets stop bashing each other and try to say something a little more constructive than your a child, your spoiled.

The RFE trick can be useful in certain situations (hmmm Gogo where did you go lol) but I believe that the OP has figurered out that calling every day is not going to gain him any more information that they day before. Could be wrong, and if so, well then ok -

If people chose certain avenues to pursue and there are many examples on this forum, whether it be Congress person, Senator, media, then God Bless them for that is there right. But to state this paragraph ....

"When my kids get in trouble for talking in class, I tell them they are stealing from the rest of the students. They are stealing time, attention and resources. They do it because they are immature and also they think that whatever they have to say is the most important thing in the world. But of course, they are wrong."

Apply to the children who do not know what is going on and then look closely at this situation and ask yourself, do we know what is going on? Answer I think is the same in both cases. Problem is that we paid for a service, and expected certain guidelines. We learned that they no longer apply.

Stealing time, draining the resources - time yes, but again, if the resources were accurate then I guess we would not have to even debate this subject. **Hence Maybe why Becky is having a bad day hmmmm could be ya think?" I should try this when I am having a bad day and see what happens - the calls I get are beyond this and yet if I told them basically "whatever", guess what, bye bye 125% of poverty guideline -

Re read the post he was told that the application was being given or had been given to an adjudicator - ok did this happen??????? That is the rant....

Chapter Two:

What we have to say is the most important thing in OUR WORLD right now, and since we can not fight the battles of sending more troops or bringing troops home from IRAQ, economy, health care, school issues, as we all know that our voices are but a mere squeak, then hence where does one come off telling someone that they are immature - maybe upset, frustrated and above and beyond, not understanding what is going on since no one really is saying it in plain language to the people. They admitted in the outline from last month about the I-130 fiasco in a great useless memo from the head hefa - typical - But immature - hmmmm

Tis but an opinion but again, who are we to say what is right for the OP - and one other item someone mentioned......we have the god send of seeing our SO's during this time....no ....this is not the case for quite a few of us. Another issue another day.

Cheers and good luck mates on this journey - at least we can support each other and walk in each others shoes and understand.

bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh USCIS

Edited February 12, 2008 by SusieK

[MsZ 6]

What you do with your feelings matters. So walking in someone's shoes as far as how they feel is one thing. But condoning behavior because of how someone feels is entirely another. The idea that no matter what you do, everyone needs support erases important distinctions, IMO, and these are distinctions I'm not willing to give up just to make someone else feel better about their behavior.

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

Yes, we can. But sometimes the best support is being honest and realistic! Suggesting people stop calling everyday is supportive and understanding. Those here that are already towards the end of their journey know and understand this. Ever been on a plane and the person sitting next to you asks the flight attendant, "When will we land?" Nothing wrong with that, but ask every half hour and it gets ridiculous and annoying. We are all in our queue. Hollering to the front, "Let's go! I want my NOA now!" Just ain't going to speed anything up.

IMHO, the best supportive words are: Shake your fist in the air. Go outside and scream from time to time. Make a dart board with USCIS on it. Take a long walk or run. Those things are far more useful than using "tricks". And guess what else? When people do these "tricks" over and over, they eventually aren't anymore. Someone will change the system because of the abuse.

I feel for people in this journey, I truly do. I have not hugged my fiancée since July and I realistically will not see here again until this July. I'd love to have her here right now, especially on this cold day. But I've learned patience, far less stressful on the body. In other words, my wait will be rewarded by a lower blood pressure and better quality of life when my girl does get here. Take a breath people. The plane will land. But everyone knows you run into a little turbulence and headwind from time to time.

Smooth sailing!

....at least we can support each other and walk in each others shoes and understand.

bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh USCIS

[pcana 0]

see unapologetic people who believe they are somehow entitled to more than others and I'm not impressed with the attitude. If you want to be like a spoiled child and call the RFE line for something o ther than its stated purpose, don't expect anyone to approve or to be upset that someone there gave you a hard time. Becky probably has to deal with dozens of people just like you every day and I'm sure that it wears on the staff.

.............................................I think Becky has more than a dozen people to deal with and for obvious reasons. To categorize the OP as unaplogetic is somewhat shallow, he made a remark, he said yeah I am sorry, lets stop bashing each other and try to say something a little more constructive than your a child, your spoiled.

The RFE trick can be useful in certain situations (hmmm Gogo where did you go lol) but I believe that the OP has figurered out that calling every day is not going to gain him any more information that they day before. Could be wrong, and if so, well then ok -

If people chose certain avenues to pursue and there are many examples on this forum, whether it be Congress person, Senator, media, then God Bless them for that is there right. But to state this paragraph ....

"When my kids get in trouble for talking in class, I tell them they are stealing from the rest of the students. They are stealing time, attention and resources. They do it because they are immature and also they think that whatever they have to say is the most important thing in the world. But of course, they are wrong."

SUSIE YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Apply to the children who do not know what is going on and then look closely at this situation and ask yourself, do we know what is going on? Answer I think is the same in both cases. Problem is that we paid for a service, and expected certain guidelines. We learned that they no longer apply.

Stealing time, draining the resources - time yes, but again, if the resources were accurate then I guess we would not have to even debate this subject. **Hence Maybe why Becky is having a bad day hmmmm could be ya think?" I should try this when I am having a bad day and see what happens - the calls I get are beyond this and yet if I told them basically "whatever", guess what, bye bye 125% of poverty guideline -

Re read the post he was told that the application was being given or had been given to an adjudicator - ok did this happen??????? That is the rant....

Chapter Two:

What we have to say is the most important thing in OUR WORLD right now, and since we can not fight the battles of sending more troops or bringing troops home from IRAQ, economy, health care, school issues, as we all know that our voices are but a mere squeak, then hence where does one come off telling someone that they are immature - maybe upset, frustrated and above and beyond, not understanding what is going on since no one really is saying it in plain language to the people. They admitted in the outline from last month about the I-130 fiasco in a great useless memo from the head hefa - typical - But immature - hmmmm

Tis but an opinion but again, who are we to say what is right for the OP - and one other item someone mentioned......we have the god send of seeing our SO's during this time....no ....this is not the case for quite a few of us. Another issue another day.

Cheers and good luck mates on this journey - at least we can support each other and walk in each others shoes and understand.

bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh USCIS

[gogo 6]

Nita.. you only submitted the letter twice so far? You can do better than that.. I was expecting you to submit twice in ONE DAY..

Anyhow, some people (like me) TAKE ACTION because it has taken so long to do something already.. I have faxed HUNDREDS of faxes already (I have about 100 fax numbers, and did about 20-30 every time I faxed).. I don't bother faxing the USCIS because it will get nothing done.. get the other people to FORCE them to do things.. I had seen people who are still patiently waiting for something to get done.. that is NOT the way to approach this.. don't be afraid of the USCIS... :angry: don't let them control your lives and your every move..

[gogo 6]

if I DIDN'T do what I did, then I would still be sitting here twiddling my thumbs instead of getting an interview with them.. They brought the battle, and I'll bring the ammunition!!

Firstenburg, forget about this so-called Becky person.. just call again after a few days.. MsZ says we all should wait our "slice" of the USCIS time.. well, sometimes this "slice" is much bigger (like in my case).. 311 days just to get ###### approved... I don't think so.. that is almost DOUBLE of what other people are waiting at.. so I had to do something in my position.. by faxing letters, calling them and getting a STRAIGHT answer... and that is how I got my LOCAL OFFICE INTERVIEW set up.. I have seen people waiting from 2006 and not doing anything.. This isn't some item you buy at the store and if they run out of stock , you just sit there waiting.. This is a life between you and your spouse!! I AM NOT GOING TO LOSE TO THEM... They know I have been calling too (my most was about 2 weeks ago.. got fed up and called 4 times).. they even knew it and didn't get mad.. because I was going to get mad first if I heard another stupid reply like this : "There are many factors that may affect your case...".. My reply : "WHAT THE #### ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!" Then that CSC person got mad too.. but I said "what the hell are you getting mad at me for? You can't even do your job right!" ... Then I got my local office interview.. well, after a few days getting mad at them.. (since it was already under security checks, I knew about the local office interview already)..

Edited February 12, 2008 by gogo

[SusieK 3]

Yes, we can. But sometimes the best support is being honest and realistic! Suggesting people stop calling everyday is supportive and understanding. Those here that are already towards the end of their journey know and understand this. Ever been on a plane and the person sitting next to you asks the flight attendant, "When will we land?" Nothing wrong with that, but ask every half hour and it gets ridiculous and annoying. We are all in our queue. Hollering to the front, "Let's go! I want my NOA now!" Just ain't going to speed anything up.

IMHO, the best supportive words are: Shake your fist in the air. Go outside and scream from time to time. Make a dart board with USCIS on it. Take a long walk or run. Those things are far more useful than using "tricks". And guess what else? When people do these "tricks" over and over, they eventually aren't anymore. Someone will change the system because of the abuse.

I feel for people in this journey, I truly do. I have not hugged my fiancée since July and I realistically will not see here again until this July. I'd love to have her here right now, especially on this cold day. But I've learned patience, far less stressful on the body. In other words, my wait will be rewarded by a lower blood pressure and better quality of life when my girl does get here. Take a breath people. The plane will land. But everyone knows you run into a little turbulence and headwind from time to time.

Smooth sailing!

....at least we can support each other and walk in each others shoes and understand.

bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh USCIS

Nice post - thanks and luv the dartboard - just went onto ebay and ordered two

Cheers and best to you on your journey

[gogo 6]

I'm going to throw the dartboard at USCIS.. is that what you meant? quick overview of my case too.. transfer from NBC => CSC => local office => NBC => local office .. and that's where it stands.. To USCIS : on February 21, be prepared for a showdown!! :ranting: :protest:

Edited February 12, 2008 by gogo

[SusieK 3]

if I DIDN'T do what I did, then I would still be sitting here twiddling my thumbs instead of getting an interview with them.. They brought the battle, and I'll bring the ammunition!!

Firstenburg, forget about this so-called Becky person.. just call again after a few days.. MsZ says we all should wait our "slice" of the USCIS time.. well, sometimes this "slice" is much bigger (like in my case).. 311 days just to get ###### approved... I don't think so.. that is almost DOUBLE of what other people are waiting at.. so I had to do something in my position.. by faxing letters, calling them and getting a STRAIGHT answer... and that is how I got my LOCAL OFFICE INTERVIEW set up.. I have seen people waiting from 2006 and not doing anything.. This isn't some item you buy at the store and if they run out of stock , you just sit there waiting.. This is a life between you and your spouse!! I AM NOT GOING TO LOSE TO THEM... They know I have been calling too (my most was about 2 weeks ago.. got fed up and called 4 times).. they even knew it and didn't get mad.. because I was going to get mad first if I heard another stupid reply like this : "There are many factors that may affect your case...".. My reply : "WHAT THE #### ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!" Then that CSC person got mad too.. but I said "what the hell are you getting mad at me for? You can't even do your job right!" ... Then I got my local office interview.. well, after a few days getting mad at them.. (since it was already under security checks, I knew about the local office interview already)..

lol GOGO - sending you that extra dartboard hun - just hope everything goes good for that local interview - big prayers and hugs your way and would be a shame to see an American have to leave their country because of this - but understand what your options are and you are the only one to choose.

Alot of support here for ya and will wait for the GOOD NEWS -

S~

The post was for Kazan Tiger lol your post just make me smile hun you know that......you are as fiesty as me

[gogo 6]

haha, Thanks SusieK!! I hope you get your approval soon too and not have to go through what I am going through.. but like I said, that day (February 21) is an all-or-nothing day... I have seen the decision made right after the interview.. I am really worried about what they are going to ask and hope for a quick interview.. I really hope it is nothing like the "stokes" interview..

[SusieK 3]

haha, Thanks SusieK!! I hope you get your approval soon too and not have to go through what I am going through.. but like I said, that day (February 21) is an all-or-nothing day... I have seen the decision made right after the interview.. I am really worried about what they are going to ask and hope for a quick interview.. I really hope it is nothing like the "stokes" interview..

Understand the "really worried" part, but GOOOOOOOGOOOOOOOOOOO - you have nothing to hide, you go in and give it your best, what else can you do mate? Then it gets tossed into someone hands and I pray that the hands have blisters on them for it will show they know the meaning of true hard work.

xxxx

[gogo 6]

go Obama! haha, just reading your signature.. but I am getting nervous, even though I am mad.. but even like my dad say : What's the worst that can happen? You move back to China and be with her.. They can't do anything else, because they don't have authority in China.. haha..