Global Cooling is back

[Miranda&James 8]

It stands to reason that human activities are not the only influence on the global ecosystem.

After all we might not cause a drought, but through overfarming in a drought season we can create a desert.

Exactly, which is why all of the "OMG the world is going to end and it is OUR fault" people make me want to scream. I see nothing wrong with trying to make our world cleaner and nicer for all but assuming that we have sole (or even a large percentage) of control over the entire environment is silly. It's just scare tactics to try and leech money from people.

Edited February 8, 2008 by Miranda&James

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

It stands to reason that human activities are not the only influence on the global ecosystem.

After all we might not cause a drought, but through overfarming in a drought season we can create a desert.

Exactly, which is why all of the "OMG the world is going to end and it is OUR fault" people make me want to scream. I see nothing wrong with trying to make our world cleaner and nicer for all but assuming that we have sole (or even a large percentage) of control over the entire environment is silly. It's just scare tactics to try and leech money from people.

yes!!!!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It stands to reason that human activities are not the only influence on the global ecosystem.

After all we might not cause a drought, but through overfarming in a drought season we can create a desert.

Exactly, which is why all of the "OMG the world is going to end and it is OUR fault" people make me want to scream. I see nothing wrong with trying to make our world cleaner and nicer for all but assuming that we have sole (or even a large percentage) of control over the entire environment is silly. It's just scare tactics to try and leech money from people.

I should perhaps clarify what I mean. I believe that human activities are damaging the environment on a global scale - mass farming, deforestation, strip mining etc... (I mean... how can it not?) but I don't believe that the Earth is some sort of hermitically sealed science experiment. I'd be surprised if climatologists believe that either...

[Miranda&James 8]

It stands to reason that human activities are not the only influence on the global ecosystem.

After all we might not cause a drought, but through overfarming in a drought season we can create a desert.

Exactly, which is why all of the "OMG the world is going to end and it is OUR fault" people make me want to scream. I see nothing wrong with trying to make our world cleaner and nicer for all but assuming that we have sole (or even a large percentage) of control over the entire environment is silly. It's just scare tactics to try and leech money from people.

I should perhaps clarify what I mean. I believe that human activities are damaging the environment on a global scale - mass farming, deforestation, strip mining etc... (I mean... how can it not?) but I don't believe that the Earth is some sort of hermitically sealed science experiment. I'd be surprised if climatologists believe that either...

I agree with you absolutely. Of course what we do is going to change the environment somewhat, making it either more pleasant or less pleasant (but we can't really know what it will be like in the long run, can we?) but I don't think we have the phenomenal cosmic powers () to destroy the entire earth like some people make it seem.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It stands to reason that human activities are not the only influence on the global ecosystem.

After all we might not cause a drought, but through overfarming in a drought season we can create a desert.

Exactly, which is why all of the "OMG the world is going to end and it is OUR fault" people make me want to scream. I see nothing wrong with trying to make our world cleaner and nicer for all but assuming that we have sole (or even a large percentage) of control over the entire environment is silly. It's just scare tactics to try and leech money from people.

I should perhaps clarify what I mean. I believe that human activities are damaging the environment on a global scale - mass farming, deforestation, strip mining etc... (I mean... how can it not?) but I don't believe that the Earth is some sort of hermitically sealed science experiment. I'd be surprised if climatologists believe that either...

I agree with you absolutely. Of course what we do is going to change the environment somewhat, making it either more pleasant or less pleasant (but we can't really know what it will be like in the long run, can we?) but I don't think we have the phenomenal cosmic powers () to destroy the entire earth like some people make it seem.

Well with nuclear weapons we could do that. Theoretically...

[GaryC 7]

It stands to reason that human activities are not the only influence on the global ecosystem.

After all we might not cause a drought, but through overfarming in a drought season we can create a desert.

Exactly, which is why all of the "OMG the world is going to end and it is OUR fault" people make me want to scream. I see nothing wrong with trying to make our world cleaner and nicer for all but assuming that we have sole (or even a large percentage) of control over the entire environment is silly. It's just scare tactics to try and leech money from people.

I should perhaps clarify what I mean. I believe that human activities are damaging the environment on a global scale - mass farming, deforestation, strip mining etc... (I mean... how can it not?) but I don't believe that the Earth is some sort of hermitically sealed science experiment. I'd be surprised if climatologists believe that either...

I agree with you absolutely. Of course what we do is going to change the environment somewhat, making it either more pleasant or less pleasant (but we can't really know what it will be like in the long run, can we?) but I don't think we have the phenomenal cosmic powers () to destroy the entire earth like some people make it seem.

Well with nuclear weapons we could do that. Theoretically...

That one I will give you. Thank God it seems we were able to step back from that cliff.

[MaRob 0]

I love snow

[Miranda&James 8]

It stands to reason that human activities are not the only influence on the global ecosystem.

After all we might not cause a drought, but through overfarming in a drought season we can create a desert.

Exactly, which is why all of the "OMG the world is going to end and it is OUR fault" people make me want to scream. I see nothing wrong with trying to make our world cleaner and nicer for all but assuming that we have sole (or even a large percentage) of control over the entire environment is silly. It's just scare tactics to try and leech money from people.

I should perhaps clarify what I mean. I believe that human activities are damaging the environment on a global scale - mass farming, deforestation, strip mining etc... (I mean... how can it not?) but I don't believe that the Earth is some sort of hermitically sealed science experiment. I'd be surprised if climatologists believe that either...

I agree with you absolutely. Of course what we do is going to change the environment somewhat, making it either more pleasant or less pleasant (but we can't really know what it will be like in the long run, can we?) but I don't think we have the phenomenal cosmic powers () to destroy the entire earth like some people make it seem.

Well with nuclear weapons we could do that. Theoretically...

We could kill everyone, sure, but wouldn't the actual planet still be here? I'm sure some funky new lifeforms would come out of that

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It stands to reason that human activities are not the only influence on the global ecosystem.

After all we might not cause a drought, but through overfarming in a drought season we can create a desert.

Exactly, which is why all of the "OMG the world is going to end and it is OUR fault" people make me want to scream. I see nothing wrong with trying to make our world cleaner and nicer for all but assuming that we have sole (or even a large percentage) of control over the entire environment is silly. It's just scare tactics to try and leech money from people.

I should perhaps clarify what I mean. I believe that human activities are damaging the environment on a global scale - mass farming, deforestation, strip mining etc... (I mean... how can it not?) but I don't believe that the Earth is some sort of hermitically sealed science experiment. I'd be surprised if climatologists believe that either...

I agree with you absolutely. Of course what we do is going to change the environment somewhat, making it either more pleasant or less pleasant (but we can't really know what it will be like in the long run, can we?) but I don't think we have the phenomenal cosmic powers () to destroy the entire earth like some people make it seem.

Well with nuclear weapons we could do that. Theoretically...

We could kill everyone, sure, but wouldn't the actual planet still be here? I'm sure some funky new lifeforms would come out of that

Depends how big the bomb is.

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You mean a nuke that can actually cause the Earth to not exist (i.e. either vaporize or break into little itty pieces)?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You mean a nuke that can actually cause the Earth to not exist (i.e. either vaporize or break into little itty pieces)?

Charlton Heston did it in Beneath the Planet of the Apes

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

But does it exist today? I'd like to see a link, sounds like an interesting read.

Thanks.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

"Phasing out the human race will solve every problem on earth, social and environmental."

-Dave Forman

Founder of Earth First

“No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

- Christine Stewart,

fmr Canadian Minister of the Environment

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

“No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.â€

- Christine Stewart,

fmr Canadian Minister of the Environment

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Edited February 9, 2008 by VJ Troll

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The article the other day estimated that half of the earth's land had been transformed in some respect by human activities - whether that be deforestation, heavy industry or intensive agriculture. That scale of operation - how could it not affect the Earth's environment on a global scale?