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American citizenship and avoiding getting drafted in Greek army

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Yeah, er, American or not, the US won't do anything when another country that claims citizenship over you demands you do something. But without even having become American, the US definitely won't do anything for you. If I were you, I wouldn't go back to Greece until I talked to a lawyer about how to maybe sort this out.

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this thread is all Greek to me

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Just burn your draft card and go to Canada.

this thread is all Greek to me

haha.

I think the only way would be to give up your Greek Nationality, assuming you are already a USC. If you are not - then obviously you can't be a man without a country! Are there any kind of exceptions for being excluded from performing service, such as being a resident overseas?

I have a mate from Finland who also had to do national service and often has nightmares that they lost his papers and he has to go back into the army :lol:

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01/19/2010 - Mailed I-751 Packet

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Just burn your draft card and go to Canada.

this thread is all Greek to me

haha.

I think the only way would be to give up your Greek Nationality, assuming you are already a USC. If you are not - then obviously you can't be a man without a country! Are there any kind of exceptions for being excluded from performing service, such as being a resident overseas?

I have a mate from Finland who also had to do national service and often has nightmares that they lost his papers and he has to go back into the army :lol:

You could be stateless, but that can lead to some ugly situations. Some countries may not allow you to renounce your citizenship, if you don't have citizenship in another country.

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so basically i can't escape it even with dual citizenship... what if i renounced my greek and was considered only american..?

and i have another question: how come Greece won't recognize community colleges as universities...because they won't give me another extension unless i transfer to a State university. What if i want to graduate from a community college and get a degree from there, they shouldn't tell me what school to go to right? I mean, some people in greece go to technical schools and still get away with it, i go to a community college (better than technical) and it's not recognized.......

i've thought about taking a class at a state university, but not actually getting admitted, while i'm still attending a community college and get a verification letter from the state univ. saying that i'm taking a class there will Greece accept that and give me an extension?

i don't know what to do, i just wanna go back home for a couple months and relax but i don't want problems... :crying:

+ thanks for your help everybody i really appreciate it!

Edited by hellaslover
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Hello everybody,

I was born and raised in Greece, until 7 years ago when i moved to U.S. Since it's mandatory for all the young men to be drafted in the Greek army, and i'm considered greek, i will have to get drafted as well. In the summer of 2005 i was called to attend the army(with other ppl my age) while i was there for vacation. I was able to get an extension and not get drafted since i could prove that i was attending school in the U.S. Thing is, this extension has expired and the college that i go to is not recognized in Greece, unless i transfer to a State university and i can't right now, so they won't give me another extension.

I have 2 questions:

1) If i go to Greece for vacation this summer will i be in danger of getting "caught" at the airport and forced to go into the army? I have heard that i could go for less than 6 months with no problems, is that true?

2) If i get an American passport will i have any problems in Greece with the army or will they leave me alone for ever? If so, how long does it take to get a passport (and what is the process?) I live in Sacramento, CA if that helps...

I don't know if this is the right place to post but i'm new here.. :blush:

If somebody can help me please do!

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so basically i can't escape it even with dual citizenship... what if i renounced my greek and was considered only american..?

and i have another question: how come Greece won't recognize community colleges as universities...because they won't give me another extension unless i transfer to a State university. What if i want to graduate from a community college and get a degree from there, they shouldn't tell me what school to go to right? I mean, some people in greece go to technical schools and still get away with it, i go to a community college (better than technical) and it's not recognized.......

i've thought about taking a class at a state university, but not actually getting admitted, while i'm still attending a community college and get a verification letter from the state univ. saying that i'm taking a class there will Greece accept that and give me an extension?

i don't know what to do, i just wanna go back home for a couple months and relax but i don't want problems... :crying:

+ thanks for your help everybody i really appreciate it!

If you renounce your Greek citizenship, Greece cannot force you into their army. But you want to do that after you have acquired US citizenship. Otherwise you will be considered a stateless person, thats assuming if Greece allows you to renounce your citizenship without having another one to fall back on.

As far as your other question, thats up to them.

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this thread is all Greek to me

:lol: :lol: You Crack my Up bro :))

بســــم اللـــــه الــــرحمـن الــــرحــــيم

My N-400 timeline, I hope it will help - Local Office (Chula Vista Field Office - San Diego)

10/01/2010: Application was sent.

10/04/2010: Application was received.

10/06/2010: Email received "Application has been received" & Noticed Date.

10/07/2010: "Touch"

10/08/2010: "Touch" & Check was Cashed

10/09/2010: NOA1 Received via mail.

10/22/2010: Status Changed Online "Request for evidence" It was for Biometrics.

10/25/2010: Request for evidence recieved "Biometrics Notice".

11/18/2010: Biometrics date ==> 11:00AM. Biometrics was taken On time.

12/03/2010: "Yellow Letter" Received.

12/06/2010: "Touch" Case Moved to "Testing and Interview".

12/08/2010: Interview Letter received via mail.

01/13/2011: Interview Date. Done, " Thanks To ALLAH, I Passed the Test.

01/18/2011: Oath Letter was Sent.

01/20/2011: Oath Letter Recieved via mail.

01/28/2011: Oath Date. ==> Done, I am a U.S. Citizen

01/31/2011: Applied for a U.S. Passport Book, And, U.S. Passport Card.

02/25/2011: Passport Book's Received.

02/26/2011: Passport Card's Received.

02/28/2011: Certificate Of Naturalization's Returned.

Game Over.

 

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