Devasted

[terrie/kamal 0]

Ganga girl, let me offer you my thoughts and prayers in your time of need. If you need a friend email me.

[morocco4ever 63]

"like it or not Isreal does have the right to exist & defend itself from attack....spin it how ever you like it doesn't change the fact. maybe Mohammed Smith should help stop the terrorist chunkin bombs at Isreal"

This was your response about a grieving man for the death his 3 year old son. If that is not a blatant lack of regard for human life I don't know what is.

[SMOKE 1,426]

"like it or not Isreal does have the right to exist & defend itself from attack....spin it how ever you like it doesn't change the fact. maybe Mohammed Smith should help stop the terrorist chunkin bombs at Isreal"

This was your response about a grieving man for the death his 3 year old son. If that is not a blatant lack of regard for human life I don't know what is.

oh i dunno, maybe slamming airplanes into buildings, killing 3000 people that have 0 to do w/ whatever motivated it??

or maybe coaching misguided kids into blowing themselves up at hotels & night clubs full of more innocent people could qualify.

[morocco4ever 63]

"like it or not Isreal does have the right to exist & defend itself from attack....spin it how ever you like it doesn't change the fact. maybe Mohammed Smith should help stop the terrorist chunkin bombs at Isreal"

This was your response about a grieving man for the death his 3 year old son. If that is not a blatant lack of regard for human life I don't know what is.

oh i dunno, maybe slamming airplanes into buildings, killing 3000 people that have 0 to do w/ whatever motivated it??

or maybe coaching misguided kids into blowing themselves up at hotels & night clubs full of more innocent people could qualify.

And that 3 year old was the mastermind, correct?

Tell me, do you think all Arab Muslims are responsible for the attack on 9-11?

[doodlebugg 10]

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/spip/spip.php?article11

Children“Life is becoming more violent for children in the Palestinian Territory. By the end of 2006 more than 120 children had died due to the conflict, more than double the number of child deaths in 2005. Many more have been injured, some for life.”

UNICEF, 2007

Children in Palestine: The Facts

60% of Palestinians in the Occupied Territories are under 19-years-old.

One in 3 Palestinian males aged 15-19 is an unskilled worker. Unemployment is a severe problem for young Palestinian men: 20% of 15-19-year-olds cannot find paid work.

20% of Palestinian females marry between the ages of 15-19. More than 1 in 10 subsequently divorce.

According to the United Nations Fund for Children (UNICEF): “Conditions have rarely been worse for Palestinian children.” One in 10 Palestinian children now suffer from stunted growth due to compromised health, poor diet and nutrition and 50% of Palestinian children are anemic, and 75% of those under 5 suffer from vitamin A deficiency.

UNICEF claims that roadblocks, barriers, checkpoints and soldiers are impeding health workers and patients, including child patients, from accessing health centers across the Occupied Palestinian Territory. Delivery of medication and equipment are also severely affected.

On March 8th, 2007 Khaled Daud Faqih died at a checkpoint between the village of Kafr’Ain and the city of Ramallah. His parents were trying to take him to Ramallah hospital, but were detained at a checkpoint by Israeli soldiers. Khaled Daud Faqih was 6 months old.

Rising poverty and unemployment is affecting school attendance across Palestine. In the 2005/6 school year the number of students whose families could not afford the NIS 50 ($11) school fee doubled from 29,000 to 56,000.

Up to 67% of families are living in poverty across the West Bank. In Gaza poverty rates have spiraled to 85% this year, severely affecting every aspect of children’s lives.

Increasing numbers of Palestinian children are now working to support their families instead of attending school. Palestinian children under the age of 14 can cross Israeli checkpoints without permits, and at least one thousand Palestinian children now cross into Israel every day, to work in garbage tips salvaging glass and metal. More than half of the Palestinian children who work in Israel, or Palestine, do not attend school at all.

Children Killed in Conflict

Since September 2000, approximately 883 Palestinian children have been killed in the Occupied Territories. The majority of these children were shot and killed by the Israeli military. However, Israeli settlers have also shot and killed Palestinian children.

124 Palestinian children were killed in 2006, more than twice the number killed the previous year. From January–July 2007, 31 children were killed. The vast majority of child deaths in Palestine are caused by live ammunition shots to the head or chest, generally indicative of an Israeli “shoot to kill” policy. On July 4th 2007 Israeli troops shot and killed a 15-year-old Palestinian boy in Hebron. Ahmad Abed Al-Muhsin Skafi was shot 4 times in his upper torso. Israeli troops then allowed a military dog to maul the boy’s dead body, tearing his intestines from his stomach and mutilating his right hand. 20,000 Palestinian children have been injured since September 2000. Almost 1,500 of them sustained life-long disabilities.

Child Arrests and International Law

International law states that child imprisonment should be used as a last resort. However the Israeli military routinely arrest and detain Palestinian children. Since September 2002 approximately 5,200 Palestinian children have been arrested by the Israeli military. Israel continues to prosecute all children in military courts, to use imprisonment as a first resort, to deny children prompt access to a lawyer, to elicit confessions under interrogation and torture and to attempt to recruit child detainees as collaborators with Israel’s secret security agency. These actions are all explicitly in violation of Article 40 of the 1989 UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, which Israel has signed.

Seven hundred Palestinian children were arrested by the Israeli military during 2006. There are now approximately 426 Palestinian children being held in Israeli detention. They regularly receive lengthy terms of imprisonment for minor offences such as stone throwing. Israeli Military Order 132 defines a Palestinian child as a person under the age of 16. Therefore Palestinians over the age of 16 are sentenced as adults and imprisoned with adults. This law discriminates against Palestinian children and is contrary to the UN Convention on the Rights of Child, which defines a child as under 18. Israelis under the age of 18 are legally defined and treated as children.

[SMOKE 1,426]

"like it or not Isreal does have the right to exist & defend itself from attack....spin it how ever you like it doesn't change the fact. maybe Mohammed Smith should help stop the terrorist chunkin bombs at Isreal"

This was your response about a grieving man for the death his 3 year old son. If that is not a blatant lack of regard for human life I don't know what is.

oh i dunno, maybe slamming airplanes into buildings, killing 3000 people that have 0 to do w/ whatever motivated it??

or maybe coaching misguided kids into blowing themselves up at hotels & night clubs full of more innocent people could qualify.

And that 3 year old was the mastermind, correct?

Tell me, do you think all Arab Muslims are responsible for the attack on 9-11?

no i don't think the 3 year old is the mastermind. never said that.

no i don't think all arab muslims are responsible for 9/11 either. never said that either.

why do you think i that?

[morocco4ever 63]

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/spip/spip.php?article11

Children“Life is becoming more violent for children in the Palestinian Territory. By the end of 2006 more than 120 children had died due to the conflict, more than double the number of child deaths in 2005. Many more have been injured, some for life.”

UNICEF, 2007

Children in Palestine: The Facts

60% of Palestinians in the Occupied Territories are under 19-years-old.

One in 3 Palestinian males aged 15-19 is an unskilled worker. Unemployment is a severe problem for young Palestinian men: 20% of 15-19-year-olds cannot find paid work.

20% of Palestinian females marry between the ages of 15-19. More than 1 in 10 subsequently divorce.

According to the United Nations Fund for Children (UNICEF): “Conditions have rarely been worse for Palestinian children.” One in 10 Palestinian children now suffer from stunted growth due to compromised health, poor diet and nutrition and 50% of Palestinian children are anemic, and 75% of those under 5 suffer from vitamin A deficiency.

UNICEF claims that roadblocks, barriers, checkpoints and soldiers are impeding health workers and patients, including child patients, from accessing health centers across the Occupied Palestinian Territory. Delivery of medication and equipment are also severely affected.

On March 8th, 2007 Khaled Daud Faqih died at a checkpoint between the village of Kafr’Ain and the city of Ramallah. His parents were trying to take him to Ramallah hospital, but were detained at a checkpoint by Israeli soldiers. Khaled Daud Faqih was 6 months old.

Rising poverty and unemployment is affecting school attendance across Palestine. In the 2005/6 school year the number of students whose families could not afford the NIS 50 ($11) school fee doubled from 29,000 to 56,000.

Up to 67% of families are living in poverty across the West Bank. In Gaza poverty rates have spiraled to 85% this year, severely affecting every aspect of children’s lives.

Increasing numbers of Palestinian children are now working to support their families instead of attending school. Palestinian children under the age of 14 can cross Israeli checkpoints without permits, and at least one thousand Palestinian children now cross into Israel every day, to work in garbage tips salvaging glass and metal. More than half of the Palestinian children who work in Israel, or Palestine, do not attend school at all.

Children Killed in Conflict

Since September 2000, approximately 883 Palestinian children have been killed in the Occupied Territories. The majority of these children were shot and killed by the Israeli military. However, Israeli settlers have also shot and killed Palestinian children.

124 Palestinian children were killed in 2006, more than twice the number killed the previous year. From January–July 2007, 31 children were killed. The vast majority of child deaths in Palestine are caused by live ammunition shots to the head or chest, generally indicative of an Israeli “shoot to kill” policy. On July 4th 2007 Israeli troops shot and killed a 15-year-old Palestinian boy in Hebron. Ahmad Abed Al-Muhsin Skafi was shot 4 times in his upper torso. Israeli troops then allowed a military dog to maul the boy’s dead body, tearing his intestines from his stomach and mutilating his right hand. 20,000 Palestinian children have been injured since September 2000. Almost 1,500 of them sustained life-long disabilities.

Child Arrests and International Law

International law states that child imprisonment should be used as a last resort. However the Israeli military routinely arrest and detain Palestinian children. Since September 2002 approximately 5,200 Palestinian children have been arrested by the Israeli military. Israel continues to prosecute all children in military courts, to use imprisonment as a first resort, to deny children prompt access to a lawyer, to elicit confessions under interrogation and torture and to attempt to recruit child detainees as collaborators with Israel’s secret security agency. These actions are all explicitly in violation of Article 40 of the 1989 UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, which Israel has signed.

Seven hundred Palestinian children were arrested by the Israeli military during 2006. There are now approximately 426 Palestinian children being held in Israeli detention. They regularly receive lengthy terms of imprisonment for minor offences such as stone throwing. Israeli Military Order 132 defines a Palestinian child as a person under the age of 16. Therefore Palestinians over the age of 16 are sentenced as adults and imprisoned with adults. This law discriminates against Palestinian children and is contrary to the UN Convention on the Rights of Child, which defines a child as under 18. Israelis under the age of 18 are legally defined and treated as children.

Thanks for the facts, this just makes me want to cry. Children are the innocent victims of all types of terror unfortunately. Sad to say I think the US has their share off terrorist activities as well.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Bridget, Allousa, Morocco4ever --

Absolutely outstanding !

(F)

-MK

[morocco4ever 63]

"like it or not Isreal does have the right to exist & defend itself from attack....spin it how ever you like it doesn't change the fact. maybe Mohammed Smith should help stop the terrorist chunkin bombs at Isreal"

This was your response about a grieving man for the death his 3 year old son. If that is not a blatant lack of regard for human life I don't know what is.

oh i dunno, maybe slamming airplanes into buildings, killing 3000 people that have 0 to do w/ whatever motivated it??

or maybe coaching misguided kids into blowing themselves up at hotels & night clubs full of more innocent people could qualify.

And that 3 year old was the mastermind, correct?

Tell me, do you think all Arab Muslims are responsible for the attack on 9-11?

no i don't think the 3 year old is the mastermind. never said that.

no i don't think all arab muslims are responsible for 9/11 either. never said that either.

why do you think i that?

To me, and maybe I am reading this wrong, but it appears that you are justifying the death of innocent Muslim children because of the tragedy of 9-11 or the fighting in Isreal. I can't see any justification unless that child had been involved in the problem, which of course is ludicrous. To all of us the tragedy of 9-11 was horrible, this includes my Arab Muslim husband and his family, as well as millions of Muslims. There is no justification for the death of innocent people whether American, Asian, Arab, etc.

There are many debates about the issues in Isreal, and again, a child should never be put in jepardy because of a disagreement between these 2 groups. And when you stated that basically it was the fault of the father that his son died just took me over the edge. Neither you or I are over there, and neither you or I see what is really going on, but one thing that tears me into pieces is the death of children for a fight that should never involve a child.

My children have never had to face any of this here in the US, and if you have children I am sure they have never had to either. How would either you are I feel if our child was killed because a soldier felt the need too? Would you want to retaliate? I surely would! It just goes back and forth back and forth.

(Please excuse the spelling errors )

Edited February 6, 2008 by morocco4ever

[panamania79 2]

Thank you all for your kind words, I am no longer working at my job, that I loved and worked hard at. I had to make a very hard decision, I know that something was done, and it was done wrong, and will be covered up unless I speak out. I made this decsion over much thought, knowing they will most likely drag my name in the mud. I live in a very southern town, family is well known, I am the black sheep. I am sure my marriage will come up in this process, "her poor mama, she ran off and married an Arab man," I will be the local entertainment for my town for a while. I have some very close friends, and sadly we must be careful so they don't lose their jobs. I have seen what the government can do, what happen to our rights in this country? I haven't even told my husband any of this, I mean I just am in shock right now, and taking one day at a time. Keep me in your prayers!!!!

I will.

[panamania79 2]

And what exactly spurned that hatred? They didn't just all of a sudden wake up and say death to Amreeca, ya know?

well it appears you know. so, enlighten me plz. why the hatred towards America?

The undying support for Israel,Iran,the war to confiscate the "weapons of mass destruction" that did not exist,I could just go on and on.

[SMOKE 1,426]

"like it or not Isreal does have the right to exist & defend itself from attack....spin it how ever you like it doesn't change the fact. maybe Mohammed Smith should help stop the terrorist chunkin bombs at Isreal"

This was your response about a grieving man for the death his 3 year old son. If that is not a blatant lack of regard for human life I don't know what is.

oh i dunno, maybe slamming airplanes into buildings, killing 3000 people that have 0 to do w/ whatever motivated it??

or maybe coaching misguided kids into blowing themselves up at hotels & night clubs full of more innocent people could qualify.

And that 3 year old was the mastermind, correct?

Tell me, do you think all Arab Muslims are responsible for the attack on 9-11?

no i don't think the 3 year old is the mastermind. never said that.

no i don't think all arab muslims are responsible for 9/11 either. never said that either.

why do you think i that?

To me, and maybe I am reading this wrong, but it appears that you are justifying the death of innocent Muslim children because of the tragedy of 9-11 or the fighting in Isreal. I can't see any justification unless that child had been involved in the problem, which of course is ludicrous. To all of us the tragedy of 9-11 was horrible, this includes my Arab Muslim husband and his family, as well as millions of Muslims. There is no justification for the death of innocent people whether American, Asian, Arab, etc.

There are many debates about the issues in Isreal, and again, a child should never be put in jepardy because of a disagreement between these 2 groups. And when you stated that basically it was the fault of the father that his son died just took me over the edge. Neither you or I are over there, and neither you or I see what is really going on, but one thing that tears me into pieces is the death of children for a fight that should never involve a child.

My children have never had to face any of this here in the US, and if you have children I am sure they have never had to either. How would either you are I feel if our child was killed because a soldier felt the need too? Would you want to retaliate? I surely would! It just goes back and forth back and forth.

(Please excuse the spelling errors )

yes, you did misunderstand me. i never said the childs death was because of 9/11 or justified. & if the childs death was at the hands of an Isreali soldier...well it is because of the fighting between Isreal & terrorist...the poor kid died because of years of hatred & war. is it Isreals fault????? is it the terrorist fault????

[morocco4ever 63]

"like it or not Isreal does have the right to exist & defend itself from attack....spin it how ever you like it doesn't change the fact. maybe Mohammed Smith should help stop the terrorist chunkin bombs at Isreal"

This was your response about a grieving man for the death his 3 year old son. If that is not a blatant lack of regard for human life I don't know what is.

oh i dunno, maybe slamming airplanes into buildings, killing 3000 people that have 0 to do w/ whatever motivated it??

or maybe coaching misguided kids into blowing themselves up at hotels & night clubs full of more innocent people could qualify.

And that 3 year old was the mastermind, correct?

Tell me, do you think all Arab Muslims are responsible for the attack on 9-11?

no i don't think the 3 year old is the mastermind. never said that.

no i don't think all arab muslims are responsible for 9/11 either. never said that either.

why do you think i that?

To me, and maybe I am reading this wrong, but it appears that you are justifying the death of innocent Muslim children because of the tragedy of 9-11 or the fighting in Isreal. I can't see any justification unless that child had been involved in the problem, which of course is ludicrous. To all of us the tragedy of 9-11 was horrible, this includes my Arab Muslim husband and his family, as well as millions of Muslims. There is no justification for the death of innocent people whether American, Asian, Arab, etc.

There are many debates about the issues in Isreal, and again, a child should never be put in jepardy because of a disagreement between these 2 groups. And when you stated that basically it was the fault of the father that his son died just took me over the edge. Neither you or I are over there, and neither you or I see what is really going on, but one thing that tears me into pieces is the death of children for a fight that should never involve a child.

My children have never had to face any of this here in the US, and if you have children I am sure they have never had to either. How would either you are I feel if our child was killed because a soldier felt the need too? Would you want to retaliate? I surely would! It just goes back and forth back and forth.

(Please excuse the spelling errors )

yes, you did misunderstand me. i never said the childs death was because of 9/11 or justified. & if the childs death was at the hands of an Isreali soldier...well it is because of the fighting between Isreal & terrorist...the poor kid died because of years of hatred & war. is it Isreals fault????? is it the terrorist fault????

Yes, but really who is the real terrorists here? I don't see how you can say that the soldier wasn't at fault for shooting a child. Did someone force him? And the matter of who is in the right and who is in the wrong between them is truly debatable.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

"like it or not Isreal does have the right to exist & defend itself from attack....spin it how ever you like it doesn't change the fact. maybe Mohammed Smith should help stop the terrorist chunkin bombs at Isreal"

This was your response about a grieving man for the death his 3 year old son. If that is not a blatant lack of regard for human life I don't know what is.

oh i dunno, maybe slamming airplanes into buildings, killing 3000 people that have 0 to do w/ whatever motivated it??

or maybe coaching misguided kids into blowing themselves up at hotels & night clubs full of more innocent people could qualify.

And that 3 year old was the mastermind, correct?

Tell me, do you think all Arab Muslims are responsible for the attack on 9-11?

no i don't think the 3 year old is the mastermind. never said that.

no i don't think all arab muslims are responsible for 9/11 either. never said that either.

why do you think i that?

To me, and maybe I am reading this wrong, but it appears that you are justifying the death of innocent Muslim children because of the tragedy of 9-11 or the fighting in Isreal. I can't see any justification unless that child had been involved in the problem, which of course is ludicrous. To all of us the tragedy of 9-11 was horrible, this includes my Arab Muslim husband and his family, as well as millions of Muslims. There is no justification for the death of innocent people whether American, Asian, Arab, etc.

There are many debates about the issues in Isreal, and again, a child should never be put in jepardy because of a disagreement between these 2 groups. And when you stated that basically it was the fault of the father that his son died just took me over the edge. Neither you or I are over there, and neither you or I see what is really going on, but one thing that tears me into pieces is the death of children for a fight that should never involve a child.

My children have never had to face any of this here in the US, and if you have children I am sure they have never had to either. How would either you are I feel if our child was killed because a soldier felt the need too? Would you want to retaliate? I surely would! It just goes back and forth back and forth.

(Please excuse the spelling errors )

yes, you did misunderstand me. i never said the childs death was because of 9/11 or justified. & if the childs death was at the hands of an Isreali soldier...well it is because of the fighting between Isreal & terrorist...the poor kid died because of years of hatred & war. is it Isreals fault????? is it the terrorist fault????

Yes, but really who is the real terrorists here? I don't see how you can say that the soldier wasn't at fault for shooting a child. Did someone force him? And the matter of who is in the right and who is in the wrong between them is truly debatable.

OK wait a minute.

The US has made some bad policy decisions and this invasion of Iraq was based on oil. But to demonize our soldiers over there? Oh COME ON. We have insurgents blowing up pet markets, insurgents raping and killing , torture chambers etc. For all the mistakes Americans have made, there are some very decent people serving in the armed services.

Frankly as much as I disdain Israel's policies, the members of the insurgency there and in Iraq are not junior easter bunnies... These are killers as well. They are blowing themselves up at check points and in hospitals on buses and in city streets. The average soldier is doing the best they can with a no win situation in a country thats been messed up since the british occupied Basra in 1917. I mean bash the USA but these insurgents are not pookie wookie cupcakes. They are killers, killing children in schools in Iraq, setting bombs off in mosques and tying time bombs to mentally challenged women. Not everything is the US 's fault

[SaadBell 0]

Ever heard of the TULIA, TEXAS? Nice look at American tax dollars working too weed out the trash.