Old TSC cases transferred to VSC

[us1415 0]

plausible - trying to adjudicate based on whether or not someone has kids requires that they go through all the applications- at which point they may as well approve as they are going through.

so the next theory - they pick up a stack - if it's lighter in weight, they decide to go through it. if it's not, they put it aside. that is the only theory i can come up with for now!

Actually they did at some capacity went thru our files when almost all of us were touched on 2/25

[James 2]

plausible - trying to adjudicate based on whether or not someone has kids requires that they go through all the applications- at which point they may as well approve as they are going through.

so the next theory - they pick up a stack - if it's lighter in weight, they decide to go through it. if it's not, they put it aside. that is the only theory i can come up with for now!

I have a feeling that in the transfer and resorting process, they were put in piles in no particular order at all. They shuffled the deck, in other words.

[James 2]

plausible - trying to adjudicate based on whether or not someone has kids requires that they go through all the applications- at which point they may as well approve as they are going through.

so the next theory - they pick up a stack - if it's lighter in weight, they decide to go through it. if it's not, they put it aside. that is the only theory i can come up with for now!

Actually they did at some capacity went thru our files when almost all of us were touched on 2/25

I guess it wouldn't be that difficult to determine from just looking at a petition for 15-20 seconds or so whether it had a birth certificate attached . . . but then again, I think we're talking about 12,000 petitions that were transfered.

[junglee069 0]

the uscis sucks.

[imailin 0]

plausible - trying to adjudicate based on whether or not someone has kids requires that they go through all the applications- at which point they may as well approve as they are going through.

so the next theory - they pick up a stack - if it's lighter in weight, they decide to go through it. if it's not, they put it aside. that is the only theory i can come up with for now!

Actually they did at some capacity went thru our files when almost all of us were touched on 2/25

I guess it wouldn't be that difficult to determine from just looking at a petition for 15-20 seconds or so whether it had a birth certificate attached . . . but then again, I think we're talking about 12,000 petitions that were transfered.

wow 12,000 transfer.. James How you know this... excuse my ignorance....

[imailin 0]

plausible - trying to adjudicate based on whether or not someone has kids requires that they go through all the applications- at which point they may as well approve as they are going through.

so the next theory - they pick up a stack - if it's lighter in weight, they decide to go through it. if it's not, they put it aside. that is the only theory i can come up with for now!

Actually they did at some capacity went thru our files when almost all of us were touched on 2/25

I guess it wouldn't be that difficult to determine from just looking at a petition for 15-20 seconds or so whether it had a birth certificate attached . . . but then again, I think we're talking about 12,000 petitions that were transfered.

wow 12,000 transfer.. James How you know this... excuse my ignorance....

when we first got the biometric app. and the NOA me and husband said: Ho!! wow!!! this is faster than anything we had done...... ... that was not the correct answer!!!!!!! it tool longer than anything else!!!! I just hope whatever they are doing they doing it fast..... I just hope that they just gave all of our applications to same competent people...

[us1415 0]

plausible - trying to adjudicate based on whether or not someone has kids requires that they go through all the applications- at which point they may as well approve as they are going through.

so the next theory - they pick up a stack - if it's lighter in weight, they decide to go through it. if it's not, they put it aside. that is the only theory i can come up with for now!

Actually they did at some capacity went thru our files when almost all of us were touched on 2/25

I guess it wouldn't be that difficult to determine from just looking at a petition for 15-20 seconds or so whether it had a birth certificate attached . . . but then again, I think we're talking about 12,000 petitions that were transfered.

True...

[ianletz 0]

This is great news, indeed! 3 approvals this week so far for the OLD TSC cases transferred to VSC. Finally!! This means these cases have not been queued after the new filings at VSC!

Hope this list is swept-cleaned in a matter of days...

[James 2]

plausible - trying to adjudicate based on whether or not someone has kids requires that they go through all the applications- at which point they may as well approve as they are going through.

so the next theory - they pick up a stack - if it's lighter in weight, they decide to go through it. if it's not, they put it aside. that is the only theory i can come up with for now!

Actually they did at some capacity went thru our files when almost all of us were touched on 2/25

I guess it wouldn't be that difficult to determine from just looking at a petition for 15-20 seconds or so whether it had a birth certificate attached . . . but then again, I think we're talking about 12,000 petitions that were transfered.

wow 12,000 transfer.. James How you know this... excuse my ignorance....

It was a rough guesstimate based on CIS's own figures -- dividing the number of I-751s they projected receipt of last year by 4 (for the 4 service centers) and then dividing that figure again by 4 (since the bulk transfers represent 1/4th of the year's petitions filed at TSC).

[imailin 0]

plausible - trying to adjudicate based on whether or not someone has kids requires that they go through all the applications- at which point they may as well approve as they are going through.

so the next theory - they pick up a stack - if it's lighter in weight, they decide to go through it. if it's not, they put it aside. that is the only theory i can come up with for now!

Actually they did at some capacity went thru our files when almost all of us were touched on 2/25

I guess it wouldn't be that difficult to determine from just looking at a petition for 15-20 seconds or so whether it had a birth certificate attached . . . but then again, I think we're talking about 12,000 petitions that were transfered.

wow 12,000 transfer.. James How you know this... excuse my ignorance....

It was a rough guesstimate based on CIS's own figures -- dividing the number of I-751s they projected receipt of last year by 4 (for the 4 service centers) and then dividing that figure again by 4 (since the bulk transfers represent 1/4th of the year's petitions filed at TSC).

Thank you... I did not know... I figured we were a lot of people.... but to tell you the truth... that number is scary.....

[gatorlink 0]

It is great to see some movement I am no longer the only one. I really believe this is the beginning of the USCIS getting rid of this black mark against them. I got my card today, this has to be the fastest process at that black hole organization.

[kalstravels 0]

Back in January 2008 when our case was still at the TSC, I placed a service request via the phone. At that time, our case had not been transferred and we were outside the TSC window.

Well, guess what? I heard back today. My hearft froze, thinking we had been approved. But alas, just a standard reply.

Here is the e-mail sent at 14:22 today from CRIS:

U.S. Department of Homeland Security

Vermont Service Center

75 Lower Welden Street

St. Albans, VT

05479-0001

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services

Monday, March 31, 2008

Dear XXXm

Our review indicates that this case is actually within our current

processing time. We are currently processing I-751 cases filed on 2/2/2007.

We regret any misunderstanding. If you do not receive a decision or

notice of other action within our current processing time, check our

website for an update or call customer service at the number provided

below.

If you have any further questions, please call the National Customer

Service Center at 1-800-375-5283.

Please remember: By law, every person who is not a U.S. citizen and

who is over the age of 14 must also notify the Department of Homeland

Security within 10 days from when they move (persons in "A" or "G"

nonimmigrant status are exempt from this requirement). If you have moved,

please complete a Form AR-11 and mail it to the address shown on that form.

If you do not have this form, you can download it from our website or

you can call the National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283

and we can order one for you. If you move, please call us with your new

address information as soon as your move is complete. If you have

already called us and given us this information, you do not need to call

again.

[Okiebollweevil 0]

Back in January 2008 when our case was still at the TSC, I placed a service request via the phone. At that time, our case had not been transferred and we were outside the TSC window.

Well, guess what? I heard back today. My hearft froze, thinking we had been approved. But alas, just a standard reply.

Here is the e-mail sent at 14:22 today from CRIS:

U.S. Department of Homeland Security

Vermont Service Center

75 Lower Welden Street

St. Albans, VT

05479-0001

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services

Monday, March 31, 2008

Dear XXXm

Our review indicates that this case is actually within our current

processing time. We are currently processing I-751 cases filed on 2/2/2007.

We regret any misunderstanding. If you do not receive a decision or

notice of other action within our current processing time, check our

website for an update or call customer service at the number provided

below.

If you have any further questions, please call the National Customer

Service Center at 1-800-375-5283.

Please remember: By law, every person who is not a U.S. citizen and

who is over the age of 14 must also notify the Department of Homeland

Security within 10 days from when they move (persons in "A" or "G"

nonimmigrant status are exempt from this requirement). If you have moved,

please complete a Form AR-11 and mail it to the address shown on that form.

If you do not have this form, you can download it from our website or

you can call the National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283

and we can order one for you. If you move, please call us with your new

address information as soon as your move is complete. If you have

already called us and given us this information, you do not need to call

again.

Yowie, the metal plate in my head is throbbing it seems like the aliens are communicating again. They are saying someone is not being truthful to us in re the 2/01/07 date. For example, if you look at the last few VSC approvals they are after March 1 07', and were you in the processing time frame posted by VSC for last month (3/1), one of us was. The aliens have taken some delight in reading the Director's rebuttal to the NY Times article (to see it go to the VJ homepage what a bunch of self-serving garbage, especially to those of us who filed before the onslaught of naturalization applicants who filed before the 7/1/07 deadline) it makes you want to upchuck, especially in the lap of one of those cobweb covered ajudicators! Sorry that you got heart palpitations and increased blood pressure with your recent correspondence from VSC, but I stick to my guns mid-May before we see any movement on our applications. Now at 1 year and 1 day counting is fruitless but for the time being that and the aliens are all I have. Nights and weekend work by USCIS?, that smacks of a thick Tom Clancy novel or romance novel stuck in a desk drawer frequently read on the job.

[kalstravels 0]

Yes jsouthwick, kind of agree.

But we can draw some facts:

1. It tooks USCIS 10 weeks to respond to my service request (phoned in on Jan. 18, 2008)

2. The service request, initially directed to the TSC was replied to by the VSC, who now have my application.

3. There is no proof that the USCIS actually dug up my application. They simply looked at the date we filed, compared it to theirs and issued a standard reply.

The conclusion one can draw is that the USCIS agents managing the phone line really do not know any more than what the website tells you. Launching service requests is a pointless exercise if you are before their "dynamic, backward dating" processing dates. (even though ours was after the TSC processing dates for the I-751 when I enquired on Jan. 18).

I'll just lounge here on this message board and wait for them to adjudicate.

Edited April 1, 2008 by kalstravels

[utopiacowboy 0]

I checked the online status late today and it showed that we had been touched and approved as of 3/31/2008. Our case status is now "Card production ordered." I wish everyone who had filed before us had gotten approved but I hope this means that it will happen soon.

As for whether having kids affects their determination, we have no children together but her three kids went through AOS about a year after my wife did and they have 10 year cards. I submitted copies of their 10 year cards along with our other proof.