Flawed Cindy McCain has a grudge list

[GaryC 7]

Like I said, I don't care either way. But an unflattering piece during an election year isn't just random chance. Believe what you all want.

So any unflattering piece a paper publishes is "Swiftboating"? You learn something new every day.....

Thats all the Swift Boat Veterans did, point out facts (yeah I know, some of you think they were lies) that make Kerry look bad. This is the same. And no Dev, I don't think it's right no matter which side does it. Politics is a dirty business and both sides roll in the mud.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

For the record... (FactCheck.org)

McCain Speaks Up

Sen. John McCain -- who has publicly endorsed Bush and even appealed for donations to the President's campaign -- came to Kerry's defense on this. McCain didn't witness the events in question, of course. But he told the Associated Press in an August 5 interview:

McCain : I think the ad is dishonest and dishonorable. As it is none of these individuals served on the boat (Kerry) commanded. Many of his crewmates have testified to his courage under fire. I think John Kerry served honorably in Vietnam.

At this point, 35 years later and half a world away, we see no way to resolve which of these versions of reality is closer to the truth.

Sources

Michael Kranish,“Veteran Retracts Criticism of Kerry ,” The Boston Globe, 6 August 2004 .

Jodi Wilgoren, "Vietnam Veterans Buy Ads to Attack Kerry," The New York Times, 5 August 2004.

Douglas Brinkley, Tour of Duty, (NY, HarperCollins, 2004).

Jim Rassmann, "Shame on the Swift Boat Veterans for Bush," Wall Street Journal, 10 Aug 2004: A10.

Ron Fournier, "McCain Condemns Anti-Kerry Ad," Associated Press, 5 August 2004.

Michael Kranish, "Kerry Faces Questions Over Purple Heart," The Boston Globe , 14 April 2004: A1.

Michael Kranish, "Heroism, and growing concern about war," The Boston Globe, 16 June 2003.

Maria L. La Ganga and Stephen Braun, "Race to the White House: Veterans Battle Over Truth; An ad calls Kerry a liar. His Vietnam crew sees a hero. Memories, and agendas, are in conflict." Los Angeles Times 17 Aug 2004: A1.

Michael Dobbs, "Records Counter A Critic Of Kerry; Fellow Skipper's Citation Refers To Enemy Fire" Washington Post, 19 Aug. 2004: A1.

William B. Rood, "FEB. 28, 1969: ON THE DONG CUNG RIVER

`This is what I saw that day'" Chicago Tribune 22 Aug 2004.

Michael Dobbs, "Swift Boat Accounts Incomplete: Critics Fail to Disprove Kerry's Version of Vietnam War Episode," Washington Post 22 Aug 2004: A1.

http://www.factcheck.org/republican-funded...war_record.html

[no name 1]

Like I said, I don't care either way. But an unflattering piece during an election year isn't just random chance. Believe what you all want.

So any unflattering piece a paper publishes is "Swiftboating"? You learn something new every day.....

Thats all the Swift Boat Veterans did, point out facts (yeah I know, some of you think they were lies) that make Kerry look bad. This is the same. And no Dev, I don't think it's right no matter which side does it. Politics is a dirty business and both sides roll in the mud.

Which is it? Dirty Dems or politics?

Well, since Ciny McCain's grudges reference something the Republicans did in 2000 I'm not sure it's about the Democrats

It's the fact that it's brought out now. It's meant to embarrass McCain before an election. It's something that the dems say the reps do when in reality both sides do it. It's called politics.

It looks like the dems can swift boat with the best of them.

it's not swiftboating if the dems do it

Yeah I know. I forgot the double standard factor.

If you know it's just politics, then why complain?

[GaryC 7]

Like I said, I don't care either way. But an unflattering piece during an election year isn't just random chance. Believe what you all want.

So any unflattering piece a paper publishes is "Swiftboating"? You learn something new every day.....

Thats all the Swift Boat Veterans did, point out facts (yeah I know, some of you think they were lies) that make Kerry look bad. This is the same. And no Dev, I don't think it's right no matter which side does it. Politics is a dirty business and both sides roll in the mud.

Which is it? Dirty Dems or politics?

Both

Well, since Ciny McCain's grudges reference something the Republicans did in 2000 I'm not sure it's about the Democrats

It's the fact that it's brought out now. It's meant to embarrass McCain before an election. It's something that the dems say the reps do when in reality both sides do it. It's called politics.

It looks like the dems can swift boat with the best of them.

it's not swiftboating if the dems do it

Yeah I know. I forgot the double standard factor.

If you know it's just politics, then why complain?

There is a difference between making an observation and a complaint. Who cares what either side does? Lets just be honest about it.

[no name 1]

If you know it's just politics, then why complain?

There is a difference between making an observation and a complaint. Who cares what either side does? Lets just be honest about it.

You name called first, no one else....

[GaryC 7]

If you know it's just politics, then why complain?

There is a difference between making an observation and a complaint. Who cares what either side does? Lets just be honest about it.

You name called first, no one else....

Where in the sam hell did I call a name??

[Eli the Barrowboy 16]

Bouts with skin cancer

A stroke suffered in 2004

Addicted to painkillers

Stealing them from a medical charity

Seems to me if this couple were applying for a simple K-1 they'd get turned down.