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Not even close. My point is that an argument that is based on the idea that the ills in society can be traced to policitical correctness is totally bogus.

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Personally, if you kill your family you are a nutcase and need to be locked up or fried to protect society. If you can kill your blood relatives, I am sure you will have no problem taking out unrelated individuals. Clearly Im not very "PC" but when has "PC" ever prevented this kind of thing?

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Not even close. My point is that an argument that is based on the idea that the ills in society can be traced to policitical correctness is totally bogus.

I agree with you there.

But I do think that political correctness weakens us as a country versus strengthening. PC is not honest.

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Not even close. My point is that an argument that is based on the idea that the ills in society can be traced to policitical correctness is totally bogus.

I agree with you there.

But I do think that political correctness weakens us as a country versus strengthening. PC is not honest.

Something I can agree with, for the following reason: it creates an environment of liars that say one thing an actually mean another. Sometimes some readers on VJ here can relate to what I'm talking about. That's reaaaally pathological and quite visible in this country. But that's not really weakening as it is just hiding things.

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What are we talking about here? Those bizarre ideas that words should be cleansed of masculinity and the like? Or something more profound? I don't get how the notion of PC can be universally applied to a person either. The may have some opinions that are or are not PC but that doesn't make them as a person PC or non PC does it?

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It's simple really it is the mind set of the PC crowd that we must be afraid to damage johnnies fragile little psyche and so he must be allowed to do anything that comes into his mind and not suffer any consquences. So parents cannot disipline without repercussions so they don't, schools cannot disipline and so no one can learn. Moral absolutes are not allowed because someone might become offended if they don't think the same.

Funny isn't back in the day when I was a youngster I knew my place as did everyone else my age. Talk back to an adult I don't think so. Even contemplate the thought of attacking an adult, are you nuts? It's called respect and in children respect is driven not given. I know I am not PC and very out of trend, but I do know that when understand the authority of adults and the adults have no fear to fairly enforce that authority things go a lot beter for everyone.

I agree.Back in the 70's if I even rolled my eyes at an elder I'd get reprimanded.I just cannot comprehend how someone could kill their family.

Not even close. My point is that an argument that is based on the idea that the ills in society can be traced to policitical correctness is totally bogus.

I agree with you there.

But I do think that political correctness weakens us as a country versus strengthening. PC is not honest.

Something I can agree with, for the following reason: it creates an environment of liars that say one thing an actually mean another. Sometimes some readers on VJ here can relate to what I'm talking about. That's reaaaally pathological and quite visible in this country. But that's not really weakening as it is just hiding things.

The culture of "sugar coating," parcero.

May 7,2007-USCIS received I-129f
July 24,2007-NOA1 was received
April 21,2008-K-1 visa denied.
June 3,2008-waiver filed at US Consalate in Panama
The interview went well,they told him it will take another 6 months for them to adjudicate the waiver
March 3,2009-US Consulate claims they have no record of our December visit,nor Manuel's interview
March 27,2009-Manuel returned to the consulate for another interrogation(because they forgot about December's interview),and they were really rude !
April 3,2009-US Counsalate asks for more court documents that no longer exist !
June 1,2009-Manuel and I go back to the US consalate AGAIN to give them a letter from the court in Colon along with documents I already gave them last year.I was surprised to see they had two thick files for his case !


June 15,2010-They called Manuel in to take his fingerprints again,still no decision on his case!
June 22,2010-WAIVER APPROVED at 5:00pm
July 19,2010-VISA IN MANUELITO'S HAND at 3:15pm!
July 25,2010-Manuelito arrives at 9:35pm at Logan Intn'l Airport,Boston,MA
August 5,2010-FINALLY MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 23,2010-Filed for AOS at the International Institute of RI $1400!
December 23,2010-Work authorization received.
January 12,2011-RFE

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It's simple really it is the mind set of the PC crowd that we must be afraid to damage johnnies fragile little psyche and so he must be allowed to do anything that comes into his mind and not suffer any consquences. So parents cannot disipline without repercussions so they don't, schools cannot disipline and so no one can learn. Moral absolutes are not allowed because someone might become offended if they don't think the same.

Funny isn't back in the day when I was a youngster I knew my place as did everyone else my age. Talk back to an adult I don't think so. Even contemplate the thought of attacking an adult, are you nuts? It's called respect and in children respect is driven not given. I know I am not PC and very out of trend, but I do know that when understand the authority of adults and the adults have no fear to fairly enforce that authority things go a lot beter for everyone.

Exactly. That's why youth crime wasn't invented until hippie parents came along.

My parents were the biggest hippies around and I wouldn't even think of doing bad things when I was a kid. :innocent:

Well,not that bad.

May 7,2007-USCIS received I-129f
July 24,2007-NOA1 was received
April 21,2008-K-1 visa denied.
June 3,2008-waiver filed at US Consalate in Panama
The interview went well,they told him it will take another 6 months for them to adjudicate the waiver
March 3,2009-US Consulate claims they have no record of our December visit,nor Manuel's interview
March 27,2009-Manuel returned to the consulate for another interrogation(because they forgot about December's interview),and they were really rude !
April 3,2009-US Counsalate asks for more court documents that no longer exist !
June 1,2009-Manuel and I go back to the US consalate AGAIN to give them a letter from the court in Colon along with documents I already gave them last year.I was surprised to see they had two thick files for his case !


June 15,2010-They called Manuel in to take his fingerprints again,still no decision on his case!
June 22,2010-WAIVER APPROVED at 5:00pm
July 19,2010-VISA IN MANUELITO'S HAND at 3:15pm!
July 25,2010-Manuelito arrives at 9:35pm at Logan Intn'l Airport,Boston,MA
August 5,2010-FINALLY MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 23,2010-Filed for AOS at the International Institute of RI $1400!
December 23,2010-Work authorization received.
January 12,2011-RFE

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Why can't we use the word 'retarded' anymore? How did this word become taboo?

That ####### is straight up retarded!

We can't,I used to work in a pych ward.Talk about entertainment.

May 7,2007-USCIS received I-129f
July 24,2007-NOA1 was received
April 21,2008-K-1 visa denied.
June 3,2008-waiver filed at US Consalate in Panama
The interview went well,they told him it will take another 6 months for them to adjudicate the waiver
March 3,2009-US Consulate claims they have no record of our December visit,nor Manuel's interview
March 27,2009-Manuel returned to the consulate for another interrogation(because they forgot about December's interview),and they were really rude !
April 3,2009-US Counsalate asks for more court documents that no longer exist !
June 1,2009-Manuel and I go back to the US consalate AGAIN to give them a letter from the court in Colon along with documents I already gave them last year.I was surprised to see they had two thick files for his case !


June 15,2010-They called Manuel in to take his fingerprints again,still no decision on his case!
June 22,2010-WAIVER APPROVED at 5:00pm
July 19,2010-VISA IN MANUELITO'S HAND at 3:15pm!
July 25,2010-Manuelito arrives at 9:35pm at Logan Intn'l Airport,Boston,MA
August 5,2010-FINALLY MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 23,2010-Filed for AOS at the International Institute of RI $1400!
December 23,2010-Work authorization received.
January 12,2011-RFE

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It's simple really it is the mind set of the PC crowd that we must be afraid to damage johnnies fragile little psyche and so he must be allowed to do anything that comes into his mind and not suffer any consquences. So parents cannot disipline without repercussions so they don't, schools cannot disipline and so no one can learn. Moral absolutes are not allowed because someone might become offended if they don't think the same.

Funny isn't back in the day when I was a youngster I knew my place as did everyone else my age. Talk back to an adult I don't think so. Even contemplate the thought of attacking an adult, are you nuts? It's called respect and in children respect is driven not given. I know I am not PC and very out of trend, but I do know that when understand the authority of adults and the adults have no fear to fairly enforce that authority things go a lot beter for everyone.

So what you're saying is, if your parents hadn't made sure you knew your place, you might have killed your family? Is that how "simple" it is?

No.What he's saying is that back in the day, when we had discipline,we would get a whack,get sent to our rooms mumbling "I hate you,I hate you," under our breaths,but we would never even contempate doing something so horrible.Nowadays there is no discipline so when little Johnny gets out of hand and someone finally decides to do something about his bad ###,it's much too late.

May 7,2007-USCIS received I-129f
July 24,2007-NOA1 was received
April 21,2008-K-1 visa denied.
June 3,2008-waiver filed at US Consalate in Panama
The interview went well,they told him it will take another 6 months for them to adjudicate the waiver
March 3,2009-US Consulate claims they have no record of our December visit,nor Manuel's interview
March 27,2009-Manuel returned to the consulate for another interrogation(because they forgot about December's interview),and they were really rude !
April 3,2009-US Counsalate asks for more court documents that no longer exist !
June 1,2009-Manuel and I go back to the US consalate AGAIN to give them a letter from the court in Colon along with documents I already gave them last year.I was surprised to see they had two thick files for his case !


June 15,2010-They called Manuel in to take his fingerprints again,still no decision on his case!
June 22,2010-WAIVER APPROVED at 5:00pm
July 19,2010-VISA IN MANUELITO'S HAND at 3:15pm!
July 25,2010-Manuelito arrives at 9:35pm at Logan Intn'l Airport,Boston,MA
August 5,2010-FINALLY MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 23,2010-Filed for AOS at the International Institute of RI $1400!
December 23,2010-Work authorization received.
January 12,2011-RFE

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