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What's the most socially 'acceptable' way to find a life partner then? Obviously internet dating is almost leperous.

Maybe a blind-date that your mother arranged would be OK.

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I think the OP got more than what he deserved here.

They usually do. :wacko:

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Western women are pretty much the lowest of the low; the least desirable. We can't go on dating websites in the same fashion that men can and look for a foreign husband. It is more socially acceptable for an average man to seek out a beautiful foreign bride than for an average lady to seek out a beautiful foreign groom. I often see very average looking men with stunning girlfriends but a good looking man with an average girlfriend is a lot rarer. We have nothing to offer except perhaps wealth (if we have a decent job) and citizenship.

Our only real hope is to find a poor man who does not mind leaving his own country or to search in other Western countries. Even if we are good-looking we are still not desirable, because according to stereotype we have horrible personalities. :P

So when a man deliberately seeks out a foreign bride the above is implied. I've heard the above sentiments echoed bymen themselves all too many times. It's a bit of a self-esteem crusher.

Bingo! Hammer, nail, head. I grew up in Hawaii, home of the very first IMB(Cherry Blossoms) which existed long before the Web was around and correspondence was all by snail mail. Lots of jaded, usually divorced American guys fed up with us "fat, bossy, golddigging, too independent, too feminist' American women coming to Hawaii specifically in search of Asian(usually Japanese or Filipina) women. Imagine growing up as a White girl in this atmosphere. I remember in college seeing one of these types trying to hit on a Korean woman on a bus once. She could barely speak two words of English and he was telling her how much he loved Asian women, showing her the word 'submissive' in her Korean-English dictionary.... :crying:

It is one thing to seek out a mate of another nationality because you are interested in that particular culture/religion/country/language(which I did, and I know some American men married to Asian women who were interested in Asian culture long before they met their wives) or if you just happen to meet in a gaming forum, chat room, etc. and hit it off, another thing entirely to seek out someone from a culture about which you know little or nothing based only on the fact that you dislike women of your own nationality and you think that women from another one have what they are lacking, based on stereotypes. I am not saying that the OP fits this description, but I have seen men who definitely do, IRL and online.

Phew, I'm glad I made sense :) I agree with everything you've said.

I nearly didn't post as I didn't want to be misunderstood; but I figured I'd try and explain how seeking out foreign brides can be offensive/upsetting to some.

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Western women are pretty much the lowest of the low; the least desirable. We can't go on dating websites in the same fashion that men can and look for a foreign husband. It is more socially acceptable for an average man to seek out a beautiful foreign bride than for an average lady to seek out a beautiful foreign groom. I often see very average looking men with stunning girlfriends but a good looking man with an average girlfriend is a lot rarer. We have nothing to offer except perhaps wealth (if we have a decent job) and citizenship.

Our only real hope is to find a poor man who does not mind leaving his own country or to search in other Western countries. Even if we are good-looking we are still not desirable, because according to stereotype we have horrible personalities. :P

So when a man deliberately seeks out a foreign bride the above is implied. I've heard the above sentiments echoed bymen themselves all too many times. It's a bit of a self-esteem crusher.

Bingo! Hammer, nail, head. I grew up in Hawaii, home of the very first IMB(Cherry Blossoms) which existed long before the Web was around and correspondence was all by snail mail. Lots of jaded, usually divorced American guys fed up with us "fat, bossy, golddigging, too independent, too feminist' American women coming to Hawaii specifically in search of Asian(usually Japanese or Filipina) women. Imagine growing up as a White girl in this atmosphere. I remember in college seeing one of these types trying to hit on a Korean woman on a bus once. She could barely speak two words of English and he was telling her how much he loved Asian women, showing her the word 'submissive' in her Korean-English dictionary.... :crying:

It is one thing to seek out a mate of another nationality because you are interested in that particular culture/religion/country/language(which I did, and I know some American men married to Asian women who were interested in Asian culture long before they met their wives) or if you just happen to meet in a gaming forum, chat room, etc. and hit it off, another thing entirely to seek out someone from a culture about which you know little or nothing based only on the fact that you dislike women of your own nationality and you think that women from another one have what they are lacking, based on stereotypes. I am not saying that the OP fits this description, but I have seen men who definitely do, IRL and online.

Phew, I'm glad I made sense :) I agree with everything you've said.

I nearly didn't post as I didn't want to be misunderstood; but I figured I'd try and explain how seeking out foreign brides can be offensive/upsetting to some.

I dunno, I guess it depends on one's motivation and intent. Maybe life is simpler for some people if they can generalize about others based on one thing.

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I sought ought and married an Asian woman.

I never wanted a submissive wife. Thankfully, I didn't get one. I would never dare tell my wife what to do.

I just wanted a wife that would at least treat me with the same common courtesy that I do her. Thankfully, I did get one of those.

I once lived with an Asian foreign exchange student when I was young, and she treated me well. She got her Phd and went back. I then went through many years of dating American women with less success. It made me think of going overseas.

I have found that in America, sometimes women think that treating their men with the same common courtesy they would give a stranger is some kind of surrender, that they are being submissive.

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I have found that in America, sometimes women think that treating their men with the same common courtesy they would give a stranger is some kind of surrender, that they are being submissive.

Eh, well, I have dated a few American men who were absolute dicks, but I didn't come to the conclusion to write them all off and search abroad. I just broke up with them and figured, eh, more fish in the sea.

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I have found that in America, sometimes women think that treating their men with the same common courtesy they would give a stranger is some kind of surrender, that they are being submissive.

Eh, well, I have dated a few American men who were absolute dicks, but I didn't come to the conclusion to write them all off and search abroad. I just broke up with them and figured, eh, more fish in the sea.

BINGO.

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I have found that in America, sometimes women think that treating their men with the same common courtesy they would give a stranger is some kind of surrender, that they are being submissive.

Eh, well, I have dated a few American men who were absolute dicks, but I didn't come to the conclusion to write them all off and search abroad. I just broke up with them and figured, eh, more fish in the sea.

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I nearly didn't post as I didn't want to be misunderstood; but I figured I'd try and explain how seeking out foreign brides can be offensive/upsetting to some.

I suppose for many, they will never understand the perceived double-standard: How the foreign bride thing is upsetting to some, but the foreign husband thing is somehow seen as not so upsetting.

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I nearly didn't post as I didn't want to be misunderstood; but I figured I'd try and explain how seeking out foreign brides can be offensive/upsetting to some.

I suppose for many, they will never understand the perceived double-standard: How the foreign bride thing is upsetting to some, but the foreign husband thing is somehow seen as not so upsetting.

Equally upsetting. One is much more common than the other, however.

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I nearly didn't post as I didn't want to be misunderstood; but I figured I'd try and explain how seeking out foreign brides can be offensive/upsetting to some.

I suppose for many, they will never understand the perceived double-standard: How the foreign bride thing is upsetting to some, but the foreign husband thing is somehow seen as not so upsetting.

For one, age difference is very rarely as big....and not very many, if any, IMB used there.

 

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