Jump to content
mawilson

Should the Oath of Allegiance be a blood oath?

By mawilson in General Polls

 Share

Naturalization - blood oath ritual  

41 members have voted

  1. 1. Should the Oath of Allegiance be a blood oath?

    • Hell yeah, the oath should be signed in blood to seal the commitment
      17
    • No, it is no longer possible to expect a lifelong commitment from naturalized citizens
      24

56 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 55
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

peejay Mentor

peejay   327

Posted
Filed: Country: Belarus
 Timeline
Posted (edited)

The USA should eliminate dual citizenship. The USA should require new citizens to surrender their old country's passport and formally notify their former country that the new US citizen has relinquished their former citizenship. No need for blood.

That should weed out the opportunists and the insincere.

Edited by peejay

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

Link to comment
Share on other sites
w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r Grand Master

w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r   123

Posted
Filed: Timeline
Posted
The USA should eliminate dual citizenship. The USA should require new citizens to surrender their old country's passport and formally notify their former country that the new US citizen has relinquished their former citizenship. No need for blood.

That should weed out the opportunists and the insincere.

I agree with that, actually. Dual citizenship is just wrong. Is it so hard to pick a country??

Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Alex+R Veteran

Alex+R   0

Posted
Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Brazil
 Timeline
Posted

I'm eligible for four citizenships, and I aim to collect all of them except Israel's. This is 2008 and we live in a globalized world. Don't expect people to have just one national identity. It's possible to be loyal to two nations. I don't fault anyone a single bit for wanting to be a citizen of the U.S. even if they don't love it like they love another country, because you never know if you're going to be randomly deported as PR here.

*Alexandra*

(I did it)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mawilson Grand Master

mawilson   2,133

Posted
Filed: Country: United Kingdom
 Timeline
  • Author
Posted
The USA should eliminate dual citizenship. The USA should require new citizens to surrender their old country's passport and formally notify their former country that the new US citizen has relinquished their former citizenship. No need for blood.

That should weed out the opportunists and the insincere.

I agree with that, actually. Dual citizenship is just wrong. Is it so hard to pick a country??

I somewhat agree with that, although I can see how one could owe allegiance to two countries

at the same time (especially if the countries in question are staunch allies.)

That said, I have met a number of "immigrants" who hate America and Americans and

only stay here for the money. They get naturalized and get US passports so they can

travel around the world visa-free, all the while spewing venom about this country.

I think that's just wrong.

biden_pinhead.jpgspace.gifrolling-stones-american-flag-tongue.jpgspace.gifinside-geico.jpg
Link to comment
Share on other sites
sparkofcreation Proficient

sparkofcreation   0

Posted
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: United Kingdom
 Timeline
Posted
The USA should eliminate dual citizenship. The USA should require new citizens to surrender their old country's passport and formally notify their former country that the new US citizen has relinquished their former citizenship. No need for blood.

That should weed out the opportunists and the insincere.

You don't think it's possible to love two countries?

Do you have children? As in more than one? Do you think you should have had to disown the first in order to have the second?

Bethany (NJ, USA) & Gareth (Scotland, UK)

-----------------------------------------------

01 Nov 2007: N-400 FedEx'd to TSC

05 Nov 2007: NOA-1 Date

28 Dec 2007: Check cashed

05 Jan 2008: NOA-1 Received

02 Feb 2008: Biometrics notice received

23 Feb 2008: Biometrics at Albuquerque ASC

12 Jun 2008: Interview letter received

12 Aug 2008: Interview at Albuquerque DO--PASSED!

15 Aug 2008: Oath Ceremony

-----------------------------------------------

Any information, opinions, etc., given by me are based entirely on personal experience, observations, research common sense, and an insanely accurate memory; and are not in any way meant to constitute (1) legal advice nor (2) the official policies/advice of my employer.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
peejay Mentor

peejay   327

Posted
Filed: Country: Belarus
 Timeline
Posted
The USA should eliminate dual citizenship. The USA should require new citizens to surrender their old country's passport and formally notify their former country that the new US citizen has relinquished their former citizenship. No need for blood.

That should weed out the opportunists and the insincere.

You don't think it's possible to love two countries?

Do you have children? As in more than one? Do you think you should have had to disown the first in order to have the second?

Do you have more than one spouse? Why not? Just cuz you can't in the USA? Otherwise you would?

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Ban Hammer Grand Master

Ban Hammer   13,344

Posted
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
 Timeline
Posted
I'm eligible for four citizenships, and I aim to collect all of them except Israel's. This is 2008 and we live in a globalized world. Don't expect people to have just one national identity. It's possible to be loyal to two nations. I don't fault anyone a single bit for wanting to be a citizen of the U.S. even if they don't love it like they love another country, because you never know if you're going to be randomly deported as PR here.

:blink:

* ~ * Charles * ~ *
 

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

 

USE THE REPORT BUTTON INSTEAD OF MESSAGING A MODERATOR!

Link to comment
Share on other sites
JVKn'CVO Experienced

JVKn'CVO   11

Posted
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Argentina
 Timeline
Posted
The USA should eliminate dual citizenship. The USA should require new citizens to surrender their old country's passport and formally notify their former country that the new US citizen has relinquished their former citizenship. No need for blood.

That should weed out the opportunists and the insincere.

Say Wa?? :blink:

Saludos,

Caro

***Justin And Caro***
Happily married and enjoying our life together!

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Chica Yeyé Grand Master

Chica Yeyé   41

Posted
Filed: Timeline
Posted
I'm eligible for four citizenships, and I aim to collect all of them except Israel's. This is 2008 and we live in a globalized world. Don't expect people to have just one national identity. It's possible to be loyal to two nations. I don't fault anyone a single bit for wanting to be a citizen of the U.S. even if they don't love it like they love another country, because you never know if you're going to be randomly deported as PR here.

Sister, amen.

Identity politics in this global knowledge-based economy trascend geographical boundaries. Old conceptions of nationhood are being superseded by other ideas of loyalty.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
britty Proficient

britty   1

Posted
Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: United Kingdom
 Timeline
Posted
The USA should eliminate dual citizenship. The USA should require new citizens to surrender their old country's passport and formally notify their former country that the new US citizen has relinquished their former citizenship. No need for blood.

That should weed out the opportunists and the insincere.

I presently have two citizenships, British and Irish (with Irish parents, that citizenship is a birthright). The fact that I am in the US is because I married an American. Whilst we live here in the US, I would be equally happy living in the UK. I love the UK and I love the US. Just because I am a citizen of one, does not make me an opportunist or insincere by becoming a citizen of the other. I would not relinquish one citizenship to obtain another and nor should I have to. The US will not force me to surrender my UK passport if I become a US citizen, and this is possibly because they don't believe I am an opportunist or insincere. Some of us are not here by choice but merely circumstance. As with any good resident here in the US, I work, pay taxes, abide by the law, and speak highly of the US when discussing it with others. Maybe your experiences are different and you know a lot of scammers.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing
- Back to Top -

Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×
×
  • Create New...