Hillary: Those who want to deport illegals are "living in some other universe"

[SMOKE 1,426]

#######? this is a serious question. why are there some people that are so against unskilled American & legal immigrants having a chance at a job w/o having to except lower wages to compete w/ illegal immigrants? i don't understand it. these laws are being put in place to protect the middle & lower class.

Edited February 1, 2008 by SMOKE

[Dan J 277]

#######? this is a serious question. why are there some people that are so against unskilled American & legal immigrants having a chance at a job w/o having to except lower wages to compete w/ illegal immigrants? i don't understand it. these laws are being put in place to protect the middle & lower class.

Maybe we should have laws to prevent outsourcing? After all, that has done more to reduce jobs for unskilled Americans than anything else.

But then can you really be part of the global economy while protecting American jobs? Even skilled workers have to compete in a global economy.

[SMOKE 1,426]

#######? this is a serious question. why are there some people that are so against unskilled American & legal immigrants having a chance at a job w/o having to except lower wages to compete w/ illegal immigrants? i don't understand it. these laws are being put in place to protect the middle & lower class.

Maybe we should have laws to prevent outsourcing? After all, that has done more to reduce jobs for unskilled Americans than anything else.

But then can you really be part of the global economy while protecting American jobs? Even skilled workers have to compete in a global economy.

don't change the question answer it. why?

[Peikko 1,575]

[SMOKE 1,426]

is that a venn poll?.....coz i've been wondering what the hell a venn poll is

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[SMOKE 1,426]

#######? this is a serious question. why are there some people that are so against unskilled American & legal immigrants having a chance at a job w/o having to except lower wages to compete w/ illegal immigrants? i don't understand it. these laws are being put in place to protect the middle & lower class.

hmm 30min. & not 1 answer to the question

[♥JP♥ 5]

I have a question too. For those that don't support legalization of illegal immigrants, how exactly are we going to round them all up and send them home? I for one am not thrilled about an amnesty but I'm also realistic and don't see how they are going find all these people and send them home. It seems like the longer we take to find a solution to this problem the more out of hand it gets.

[HAL 9000 96]

We's got dem minimum wage laws. Bust the businesses that don't want to play neither fair nor maintain a decent standard of living. Which is, according to what these new attrition-based laws say, will happen with the ilegales. Then again, businesses can just pack up and go elsewhere... outsourcing themselves to make a bigger buck where they feel an advantage. Then you've just condemned both ilegales and the lower classes alike. Way to go!

[no name 1]

is that a venn poll?.....coz i've been wondering what the hell a venn poll is

With misspelling & random caps!

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And if we're gonna nitpick... no venn diagram is complete without universe

[Peikko 1,575]

And that matters because?

Oh, because you are an ### which are not represented on the diagram.

[no name 1]

And that matters because?

Oh, because you are an ### which are not represented on the diagram.

However, I can spell and do pretty graphics.

[SMOKE 1,426]

We's got dem minimum wage laws. Bust the businesses that don't want to play neither fair nor maintain a decent standard of living. Which is, according to what these new attrition-based laws say, will happen with the ilegales. Then again, businesses can just pack up and go elsewhere... outsourcing themselves to make a bigger buck where they feel an advantage. Then you've just condemned both ilegales and the lower classes alike. Way to go!

so you have no answer?

[masterpiece91 0]

#######? this is a serious question. why are there some people that are so against unskilled American & legal immigrants having a chance at a job w/o having to except lower wages to compete w/ illegal immigrants? i don't understand it. these laws are being put in place to protect the middle & lower class.

hmm 30min. & not 1 answer to the question

Smoke,

i'm not sure there are people against this law. I completely understand your point. I simply think that we are not tackling the root of the problem by simply saying let's get rid of them all... I think the problem goes way beyond the fence. I think the problem lies in american companies exploiting other ppor countries along with corrupt politics in these countries and a broken down immigration system which does not give the people who need to survive a fair chance to come here legally or at least to generate the capital they need to make in their country.

How is it that they are not allowed the chance to survive? Well if anyone ever leaves this country and really takes a momment to see things without blinders they will see american companies and politicians exploiting the riches of these countries. They too see the corruption going on in these countries but they simply cover their eyes since they are benefiting from it.

By the way i am not an anti-american. I am proud to be american but i also need to be realistic and see both sides to comprehend what is really happening. Even with the immigration issue in this country why is it that nothing really has been done? Don't you think that these big companies benefit from having all this illigal immigration? They get to exploit someone who is afraid of saying anything because even if they do get cheated here they are able to live a better life than in their country. The problem lies where it always will.

The love of money is root of all evil..... This is the root of this issue and until someone stops covering their eyes and does something about this, we will continue to have an immigration problem!