Hillary: Those who want to deport illegals are "living in some other universe"

[greeneyedgirlfl 0]

My lab is right across from the adult ER and kitty corner to the children's ER... wait... let me see...

Nope... no illegals in sight!

And these anchor babies you so eloquently mention... according to US Law they are USC. Therefore, since you fail to dignify a fellow human being the due respect they deserve as a human being in favor on Red Blooded American Citizens, then at least afford innocent children the respect they deserve according to your xenophobic view of our nation of immigrants.

So lets see... instead of opening up a pillbox of complaints, we should be focusing on creating solutions to the problems that continue to create the scenarios of Hispanics by the bushel in Forest Preserves you so vehemently abhor and clogged ER you see on a daily basis.

Then again, my sister and brother in law just so happen to be ER doctors in an area that services plenty of farm workers. Lets see what they tell me about how clogged their ERs really are. From what I've been told so far, the clogging comes from our own citizens that don't know how to use preventive medicine.

I'm sorry but I have difficulty in following your post as the english isn't very good. Perhaps if you repost using smaller words?

A sentence constructed such as the one that follows frankly makes no sense (in english):

"instead of opening up a pillbox of complaints, we should be focusing on creating solutions to the problems that continue to create the scenarios of Hispanics by the bushel in Forest Preserves you so vehemently abhor and clogged ER you see on a daily basis."

Please clarify. Remember, punctuation your friend!

If the sentence is too complex maybe an English course at COD would do you a world of good. Otherwise the request for clarification is nothing but an an attempt at obfuscation of the writing on the wall.

Do enjoy the snow though... I'm thinking looking for the droves of Hispanics out in the burbs to report back. Maybe they all went skiing?

If you're looking for illegals in the 'burbs, come to one of the 4 large metro areas of Florida...they get paid under the table (no taxes) and live 12+ people in a house (or an apartment).

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Given that these candidates are now frontrunners in the presidential race - I'd say it suggests that the immigration issue either isn't as important to the public at large as its been made out to be, or the moderate approach to this issue has a pretty strong public following.

Exactly. The anti-illegal crowd is all bark and no bite. They can talk a lot, make a lot of noise, but they're not good for much worse. They couldn't even nominate a single anti-illegal from either party.

Talk about pathetic.

We currently have a pro-illegal President. See what he accomplished for them illegals and then talk about pathetic. So what if the next President loves illegals? (S)He's gonna get about as far as this one on that front. Unless the enforcement in the workplace and at the border are in place and working. Then the debate in regards to those here will shift in their favor. Until then, I don't think so.

Edited February 3, 2008 by Mr. Big Dog

[HAL 9000 96]

My lab is right across from the adult ER and kitty corner to the children's ER... wait... let me see...

Nope... no illegals in sight!

And these anchor babies you so eloquently mention... according to US Law they are USC. Therefore, since you fail to dignify a fellow human being the due respect they deserve as a human being in favor on Red Blooded American Citizens, then at least afford innocent children the respect they deserve according to your xenophobic view of our nation of immigrants.

So lets see... instead of opening up a pillbox of complaints, we should be focusing on creating solutions to the problems that continue to create the scenarios of Hispanics by the bushel in Forest Preserves you so vehemently abhor and clogged ER you see on a daily basis.

Then again, my sister and brother in law just so happen to be ER doctors in an area that services plenty of farm workers. Lets see what they tell me about how clogged their ERs really are. From what I've been told so far, the clogging comes from our own citizens that don't know how to use preventive medicine.

I'm sorry but I have difficulty in following your post as the english isn't very good. Perhaps if you repost using smaller words?

A sentence constructed such as the one that follows frankly makes no sense (in english):

"instead of opening up a pillbox of complaints, we should be focusing on creating solutions to the problems that continue to create the scenarios of Hispanics by the bushel in Forest Preserves you so vehemently abhor and clogged ER you see on a daily basis."

Please clarify. Remember, punctuation your friend!

If the sentence is too complex maybe an English course at COD would do you a world of good. Otherwise the request for clarification is nothing but an an attempt at obfuscation of the writing on the wall.

Do enjoy the snow though... I'm thinking looking for the droves of Hispanics out in the burbs to report back. Maybe they all went skiing?

If you're looking for illegals in the 'burbs, come to one of the 4 large metro areas of Florida...they get paid under the table (no taxes) and live 12+ people in a house (or an apartment).

I also have lived in South Florida. Good for many there they have the Wet Foot/Dry Foot Policy still enforce...

Yeah, the bickering has gotten beyond a debate. Name calling is unfortunately the consequence of ignorance pushing the limits of tolerance. I think we can look at who can't tolerate and we can find part of the answers we all know exist.

[kaydee457 13]

My lab is right across from the adult ER and kitty corner to the children's ER... wait... let me see...

Nope... no illegals in sight!

And these anchor babies you so eloquently mention... according to US Law they are USC. Therefore, since you fail to dignify a fellow human being the due respect they deserve as a human being in favor on Red Blooded American Citizens, then at least afford innocent children the respect they deserve according to your xenophobic view of our nation of immigrants.

So lets see... instead of opening up a pillbox of complaints, we should be focusing on creating solutions to the problems that continue to create the scenarios of Hispanics by the bushel in Forest Preserves you so vehemently abhor and clogged ER you see on a daily basis.

Then again, my sister and brother in law just so happen to be ER doctors in an area that services plenty of farm workers. Lets see what they tell me about how clogged their ERs really are. From what I've been told so far, the clogging comes from our own citizens that don't know how to use preventive medicine.

I'm sorry but I have difficulty in following your post as the english isn't very good. Perhaps if you repost using smaller words?

A sentence constructed such as the one that follows frankly makes no sense (in english):

"instead of opening up a pillbox of complaints, we should be focusing on creating solutions to the problems that continue to create the scenarios of Hispanics by the bushel in Forest Preserves you so vehemently abhor and clogged ER you see on a daily basis."

Please clarify. Remember, punctuation your friend!

If the sentence is too complex maybe an English course at COD would do you a world of good. Otherwise the request for clarification is nothing but an an attempt at obfuscation of the writing on the wall.

Do enjoy the snow though... I'm thinking looking for the droves of Hispanics out in the burbs to report back. Maybe they all went skiing?

If you're looking for illegals in the 'burbs, come to one of the 4 large metro areas of Florida...they get paid under the table (no taxes) and live 12+ people in a house (or an apartment).

I also have lived in South Florida. Good for many there they have the Wet Foot/Dry Foot Policy still enforce...

Yeah, the bickering has gotten beyond a debate. Name calling is unfortunately the consequence of ignorance pushing the limits of tolerance. I think we can look at who can't tolerate and we can find part of the answers we all know exist.

Do you write your thoughts in some encrypted code? I have a great deal of trouble understanding your points.

Anyway, I have lived in many places in the USA. I lived in L.A. for about a year in 1992/1993 and illegals were a way of life, however, returning to my native Long Island N.Y. in the nineties had me taken by surprise by just how many illegal hispanics had taken up residence in our country.

In fact, there were two distinct locations whereby they waited every morning, by the hundreds, to be chosen by contractors, or anyone willing to give them a days work, every morning....

I myself used two "day laborers" to clean out a rental house I owned. The Suffolk county goverment was actually considering building a shelter for these guys to wait in, during inclement weather, an idea which was quickly squelched by the local unions and most of the voting populace as outrageous use of taxpayers money.

[Peikko 1,575]

We know that the USA has a lot of illegal immigrants but to suggest that one knows who or where they are is totally ludicrous. They are not identifiabe. I live in California and I have no idea what this 'illegals are a way of life' epithet is alluding to because there is nothing to identify illegal alien activity from 'normal' activity. Of course, should one be in the habit of hiring casual labour for cash under the table as it were, maybe then you might have an idea, but otherwise really no way of telling.

[Sprailenes 47]

Well if Hillary gets into office, I hope she gives us all refunds for all the money we spent doing it the legal way.

That was like a joke people. ha...ha.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Well if Hillary gets into office, I hope she gives us all refunds for all the money we spent doing it the legal way.

That was like a joke people. ha...ha.

Tax rates will go up in 2009, pretty much whoever wins.

[Peikko 1,575]

I don't have a problem with taxes, I don't know why people get so mad about the idea of paying it. If they go up, that's fine by me. What I do have a problem with is tax money going on pointless projects. Accountable government is good.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I don't have a problem with taxes, I don't know why people get so mad about the idea of paying it. If they go up, that's fine by me. What I do have a problem with is tax money going on pointless projects. Accountable government is good.

When tax rates are increased but in-your-face government waste is not addressed, I have a problem with that.

[kaydee457 13]

We know that the USA has a lot of illegal immigrants but to suggest that one knows who or where they are is totally ludicrous. They are not identifiabe. I live in California and I have no idea what this 'illegals are a way of life' epithet is alluding to because there is nothing to identify illegal alien activity from 'normal' activity. Of course, should one be in the habit of hiring casual labour for cash under the table as it were, maybe then you might have an idea, but otherwise really no way of telling.

You clearly are very naive... There are two areas in Long Island where illegals congregate in hopes of acquiring day labor....

There are literally hundreds of them, mostly Hispanics. I give you that there's no way of knowing if 100% of them are illegal but common sense, as well as the preponderance of news stories about this very problem, the acknowledgment of the local government (Suffolk County, NY) that they are indeed illegals sort of suggest that they are!

I'm sure there are similar circumstances around the country whereby illegals congregate someplace at the beginning of the workday in the hopes of getting a day or two of work off the books.....

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I don't have a problem with taxes, I don't know why people get so mad about the idea of paying it. If they go up, that's fine by me. What I do have a problem with is tax money going on pointless projects. Accountable government is good.

When tax rates are increased but in-your-face government waste is not addressed, I have a problem with that.

The latter won't be addressed. So, you'll have a problem. As will I.

[Peikko 1,575]

I have never seen crowds of day labourers. Does not seeing these things make me niave? I guess if that's so, then I am.

[natty bumppo 297]

I have never seen crowds of day labourers. Does not seeing these things make me niave? I guess if that's so, then I am.

maybe you don't notice them or pass a pick-up area at the proper time of day to notice ... I see it here ... didn't when I lived in a small town back east ...

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I've never seen it here either. I have seen it in NC though.

I'm told I don't see it here because I typically get on the road around 815am, by which time they're gone. When I saw it in NC, it was at 630am in the Raleigh area.

[LaL 418]

I have never seen crowds of day labourers.

I have. All the time in Tampa. One of those workers was an x-bf of mine (a Cuban Perm Resident) and his (USC) friends when they were down on their luck.