Help: paperwork needed for 129f

[tomandsilke 0]

Hello,

I have received my NOA1 for the I-130 and am ready to send in the 129-f for my wife (married in August 07)

In addition to a marriage certificate are there other things people send in to prove you are married?

I don't want to send too much and have it slow down the process. And maybe nothing else is needed since it is asked for on the applciation instructions. After all our certificate of marriage (married in Germany) should be enough to serve as evidence of a bona fide marriage.

I had thought about sending a a report from the doctor showing my wife is having a baby in June.

Maybe airline ticket stubs from my travels to Germany last year after we were married.

What do you think?????????????

Also, any "official word" on whether the 129-f is a dead duck? I felt it best to submit it unless there is an official statement telling me not to.

Thanks!

[Minya's wife 25]

What you are listing seems to be fine. What did you send for the I-130 to prove your marriage? I think most people just usually use the same information. The I-129F is tied to your underlying I-130....and will be grouped together, according to the new way these are being processed, so if your 'evidence' is sufficient for the I-130, you should be OK. Maybe someone more proficient will come along and give more concrete advice.

Good luck,

-P

[pushbrk 13,087]

Hello,

I have received my NOA1 for the I-130 and am ready to send in the 129-f for my wife (married in August 07)

In addition to a marriage certificate are there other things people send in to prove you are married?

I don't want to send too much and have it slow down the process. And maybe nothing else is needed since it is asked for on the applciation instructions. After all our certificate of marriage (married in Germany) should be enough to serve as evidence of a bona fide marriage.

I had thought about sending a a report from the doctor showing my wife is having a baby in June.

Maybe airline ticket stubs from my travels to Germany last year after we were married.

What do you think?????????????

Also, any "official word" on whether the 129-f is a dead duck? I felt it best to submit it unless there is an official statement telling me not to.

Thanks!

This is a serious question. What makes you think you need to send something besides a marriage certificate to prove you are married?

[tomandsilke 0]

Hello,

I have received my NOA1 for the I-130 and am ready to send in the 129-f for my wife (married in August 07)

In addition to a marriage certificate are there other things people send in to prove you are married?

I don't want to send too much and have it slow down the process. And maybe nothing else is needed since it is asked for on the applciation instructions. After all our certificate of marriage (married in Germany) should be enough to serve as evidence of a bona fide marriage.

I had thought about sending a a report from the doctor showing my wife is having a baby in June.

Maybe airline ticket stubs from my travels to Germany last year after we were married.

What do you think?????????????

Also, any "official word" on whether the 129-f is a dead duck? I felt it best to submit it unless there is an official statement telling me not to.

Thanks!

This is a serious question. What makes you think you need to send something besides a marriage certificate to prove you are married?

Thanks for replying.

I thought the additional paperwork might serve as proof as an ongoing marriage. I recalled (maybe incorrectly) reading about someone that was submitting records of flight tickets and other items to show a legitimate marriage. It sounded like overkill to me but I wasn't sure. I take it that you feel the best route would be to stick with just what is asked for in the 129f instructions?

Thanks again

[pushbrk 13,087]

Hello,

I have received my NOA1 for the I-130 and am ready to send in the 129-f for my wife (married in August 07)

In addition to a marriage certificate are there other things people send in to prove you are married?

I don't want to send too much and have it slow down the process. And maybe nothing else is needed since it is asked for on the applciation instructions. After all our certificate of marriage (married in Germany) should be enough to serve as evidence of a bona fide marriage.

I had thought about sending a a report from the doctor showing my wife is having a baby in June.

Maybe airline ticket stubs from my travels to Germany last year after we were married.

What do you think?????????????

Also, any "official word" on whether the 129-f is a dead duck? I felt it best to submit it unless there is an official statement telling me not to.

Thanks!

This is a serious question. What makes you think you need to send something besides a marriage certificate to prove you are married?

Thanks for replying.

I thought the additional paperwork might serve as proof as an ongoing marriage. I recalled (maybe incorrectly) reading about someone that was submitting records of flight tickets and other items to show a legitimate marriage. It sounded like overkill to me but I wasn't sure. I take it that you feel the best route would be to stick with just what is asked for in the 129f instructions?

Thanks again

Well, generally, following instructions is a good idea. Another good idea is to read carefully and interpret literally. "Proof of marriage" is one thing and "evidence of a bona fide ongoing relationship" is quite another. The time to show evidence the "relationship" is bona fide and ongoing is at the interview. Proving you are married is done with a marriage certificate, which is evidence of absolutely nothing about the relationship from the marriage date forward. Don't confuse the terms "marriage" and "relationship" or for that matter "wedding" and "marriage".

[tomandsilke 0]

Hello,

I have received my NOA1 for the I-130 and am ready to send in the 129-f for my wife (married in August 07)

In addition to a marriage certificate are there other things people send in to prove you are married?

I don't want to send too much and have it slow down the process. And maybe nothing else is needed since it is asked for on the applciation instructions. After all our certificate of marriage (married in Germany) should be enough to serve as evidence of a bona fide marriage.

I had thought about sending a a report from the doctor showing my wife is having a baby in June.

Maybe airline ticket stubs from my travels to Germany last year after we were married.

What do you think?????????????

Also, any "official word" on whether the 129-f is a dead duck? I felt it best to submit it unless there is an official statement telling me not to.

Thanks!

This is a serious question. What makes you think you need to send something besides a marriage certificate to prove you are married?

Thanks for replying.

I thought the additional paperwork might serve as proof as an ongoing marriage. I recalled (maybe incorrectly) reading about someone that was submitting records of flight tickets and other items to show a legitimate marriage. It sounded like overkill to me but I wasn't sure. I take it that you feel the best route would be to stick with just what is asked for in the 129f instructions?

Thanks again

Well, generally, following instructions is a good idea. Another good idea is to read carefully and interpret literally. "Proof of marriage" is one thing and "evidence of a bona fide ongoing relationship" is quite another. The time to show evidence the "relationship" is bona fide and ongoing is at the interview. Proving you are married is done with a marriage certificate, which is evidence of absolutely nothing about the relationship from the marriage date forward. Don't confuse the terms "marriage" and "relationship" or for that matter "wedding" and "marriage".

Excellent point and I completley understand what you are saying. Thanks again.

[✿Ice Rain✿ 0]

Hello,

I have received my NOA1 for the I-130 and am ready to send in the 129-f for my wife (married in August 07)

In addition to a marriage certificate are there other things people send in to prove you are married?

I don't want to send too much and have it slow down the process. And maybe nothing else is needed since it is asked for on the applciation instructions. After all our certificate of marriage (married in Germany) should be enough to serve as evidence of a bona fide marriage.

I had thought about sending a a report from the doctor showing my wife is having a baby in June.

Maybe airline ticket stubs from my travels to Germany last year after we were married.

What do you think?????????????

Also, any "official word" on whether the 129-f is a dead duck? I felt it best to submit it unless there is an official statement telling me not to.

Thanks!

AFFIDAVITS counts alot as proof of marriage besides the marriage cert.

[pushbrk 13,087]

Hello,

I have received my NOA1 for the I-130 and am ready to send in the 129-f for my wife (married in August 07)

In addition to a marriage certificate are there other things people send in to prove you are married?

I don't want to send too much and have it slow down the process. And maybe nothing else is needed since it is asked for on the applciation instructions. After all our certificate of marriage (married in Germany) should be enough to serve as evidence of a bona fide marriage.

I had thought about sending a a report from the doctor showing my wife is having a baby in June.

Maybe airline ticket stubs from my travels to Germany last year after we were married.

What do you think?????????????

Also, any "official word" on whether the 129-f is a dead duck? I felt it best to submit it unless there is an official statement telling me not to.

Thanks!

AFFIDAVITS counts alot as proof of marriage besides the marriage cert.

The reason I'm dealing with the semantics here is that I'm seeing a very common misinterpretation of "evidence of bona fide ongoing relationship" as "proof of marriage". The marriage certificate is all anybody needs to prove they got married. If you do include affidavits with an I-130 filing, they need to be about the bona fide ongoing relationship, not the "wedding". Most newlyweds who have never even lived in the same country are unable to provide affidavits with any real value as to the bona fides of the relationship. Their friends and family only know they got married and maybe had a party afterwards. I've seen no evidence USCIS wants any of the list of "should include" documentation from newlyweds at petition filing time. Bona fides are examined at the visa interview when the couple has had a few months to accumulate some evidence.

[Firstenburg 0]

Your I-129F has full instructions on what to include. It asks for the same evidence you supplied in your I-130. If your marriage cert is not in english, you will need to provide a certified translation of the document along with the document.

Something you should consider: NOT FILING THE I-129F. There have been many posts and threads about this lately. The K3 visa is taking LONGER than the I-130 to process. So it won't do you any good. It gets grouped with your I-130, and when your I-130 is approved, the K3 is "administratively closed". This closure can cause delays. Also, some couples on VJ report that their applications are being processed according to the date they submitted their I-129F. Since you have to wait until you have the NOA1 from your I-130 before you can submit the I-129F, your I129F date will be about 1 month behind. Basically, some who submitted the K3 are being penalized for it.

At the K3 teleconference on Thursday, Wendy, the moderator, pointed out that in their 2007 annual report, the Ombudsmans office said that with the current processing backlog, the K3 is meaningless. Here's the snippet from the annual report:

However, until the Ombudsman brought this issue to USCIS’ attention, the I-129F was processed in 2-3 months, while the I-130 remained pending for many additional months. During the reporting period, it appears that USCIS responded to the Ombudsman’s concerns by slowing down processing of the I-129F. The May 18, 2007 processing time for the I-129F at the National Benefits Center (NBC), the only service center that processes these petitions for the K-3, is six months. As of May 18, 2007, the processing time for the I-130 was six months at the California Service Center and fourteen months at the Vermont Service Center. The Ombudsman points out that the NBC processes I-129F petitions for the K-3 and the VSC and CSC process the I-130 petitions. If the processing times for I-129Fs and I-130s are the same, as at the CSC, the LIFE Act provision providing for the fiancé(e) visa as a faster alternative to the I-130 process is meaningless.

Here's the annual report. Look on page 57 (Go by the page number at the bottom of the page, not Adobe Reader page numbers):

[pushbrk 13,087]

Your I-129F has full instructions on what to include. It asks for the same evidence you supplied in your I-130. If your marriage cert is not in english, you will need to provide a certified translation of the document along with the document.

Something you should consider: NOT FILING THE I-129F. There have been many posts and threads about this lately. The K3 visa is taking LONGER than the I-130 to process. So it won't do you any good. It gets grouped with your I-130, and when your I-130 is approved, the K3 is "administratively closed". This closure can cause delays. Also, some couples on VJ report that their applications are being processed according to the date they submitted their I-129F. Since you have to wait until you have the NOA1 from your I-130 before you can submit the I-129F, your I129F date will be about 1 month behind. Basically, some who submitted the K3 are being penalized for it.

At the K3 teleconference on Thursday, Wendy, the moderator, pointed out that in their 2007 annual report, the Ombudsmans office said that with the current processing backlog, the K3 is meaningless. Here's the snippet from the annual report:

However, until the Ombudsman brought this issue to USCIS’ attention, the I-129F was processed in 2-3 months, while the I-130 remained pending for many additional months. During the reporting period, it appears that USCIS responded to the Ombudsman’s concerns by slowing down processing of the I-129F. The May 18, 2007 processing time for the I-129F at the National Benefits Center (NBC), the only service center that processes these petitions for the K-3, is six months. As of May 18, 2007, the processing time for the I-130 was six months at the California Service Center and fourteen months at the Vermont Service Center. The Ombudsman points out that the NBC processes I-129F petitions for the K-3 and the VSC and CSC process the I-130 petitions. If the processing times for I-129Fs and I-130s are the same, as at the CSC, the LIFE Act provision providing for the fiancé(e) visa as a faster alternative to the I-130 process is meaningless.

Here's the annual report. Look on page 57 (Go by the page number at the bottom of the page, not Adobe Reader page numbers):

If it were me filing today, I would file only the I-130.

[tomandsilke 0]

Your I-129F has full instructions on what to include. It asks for the same evidence you supplied in your I-130. If your marriage cert is not in english, you will need to provide a certified translation of the document along with the document.

Something you should consider: NOT FILING THE I-129F. There have been many posts and threads about this lately. The K3 visa is taking LONGER than the I-130 to process. So it won't do you any good. It gets grouped with your I-130, and when your I-130 is approved, the K3 is "administratively closed". This closure can cause delays. Also, some couples on VJ report that their applications are being processed according to the date they submitted their I-129F. Since you have to wait until you have the NOA1 from your I-130 before you can submit the I-129F, your I129F date will be about 1 month behind. Basically, some who submitted the K3 are being penalized for it.

At the K3 teleconference on Thursday, Wendy, the moderator, pointed out that in their 2007 annual report, the Ombudsmans office said that with the current processing backlog, the K3 is meaningless. Here's the snippet from the annual report:

However, until the Ombudsman brought this issue to USCIS’ attention, the I-129F was processed in 2-3 months, while the I-130 remained pending for many additional months. During the reporting period, it appears that USCIS responded to the Ombudsman’s concerns by slowing down processing of the I-129F. The May 18, 2007 processing time for the I-129F at the National Benefits Center (NBC), the only service center that processes these petitions for the K-3, is six months. As of May 18, 2007, the processing time for the I-130 was six months at the California Service Center and fourteen months at the Vermont Service Center. The Ombudsman points out that the NBC processes I-129F petitions for the K-3 and the VSC and CSC process the I-130 petitions. If the processing times for I-129Fs and I-130s are the same, as at the CSC, the LIFE Act provision providing for the fiancé(e) visa as a faster alternative to the I-130 process is meaningless.

Here's the annual report. Look on page 57 (Go by the page number at the bottom of the page, not Adobe Reader page numbers):

If it were me filing today, I would file only the I-130.

Excellent information from everyone. Thanks