McCain in 2000: "I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live."

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Call me white trash, dont bother me one bit. Blacks that call each other n###a seems not to bother them either. Sticks and stones.

oh that 'black call themselves #######' argument is already being discussed tons of times.. and its not the same thing

Yes - the word was assimilated into their lexicon as a way of taking ownership of it - but the term is pejorative, however you look at it.

Rationalization? Your joking right?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

that link doesn't work

Yeah it doesn't. It did when I pasted, though - clearly.

You dislike Iams toruring animals, but a man who dilikes the individuals that tortured him is a racist?

A man who uses a racist term is... using a racist term. Obviously, torturing is a far worse offense in the grand scheme of things. But there are many other words to choose from to insult those people without lowering yourself to using racial epithets.

Agreed. Not to state the obvious of course - but as a public official it shows well... not the best judgment... in sticking by a comment like that, esp. now he's running for high office.

He's entitled to his opinion, of course. But you've got to think that for campaign managers this sort of thing has got to be a headache. Easy target really.

[Heracles 417]

Here I found some nice racial info: "The Racial Slur Database"

Clearly it works both ways..

[peejay 327]

so a white boy that got beaten by a bunch of black thugs gets to call them n***'s? and get away with it?

or if a black guy got beaten by a white cop, he get's to call every white cop cr*** pig or something...

So it took you this long to figure out how the world operates?

[kaydee457 13]

Just some info.....Carry on....No opinion on this one myself

Damn censor....

G o o k

(U.S. military slang) an Asian person, especially an enemy (e.g. Koreans or Vietnamese during the Korean and Vietnam wars). By extension, any Asian person. Derived from the Korean words “hanguk” and “miguk”. Guk is from the Chinese word guo, which means country. “Hanguk” refers to Korea[77] and “miguk” is the common word for the United States.[78] American troops thought "miguk" sounded like "me G o o k" (i.e. "I am a g o o k"). The word persisted during the Vietnam War, perhaps also because the Vietnamese people have a similar word “quốc”, meaning "country". "G o o k" was also used by white soldiers in Africa to designate enemy insurgents.[79]

source

Edited January 31, 2008 by kaydee457

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Call me white trash, dont bother me one bit. Blacks that call each other n###a seems not to bother them either. Sticks and stones.

oh that 'black call themselves #######' argument is already being discussed tons of times.. and its not the same thing

Yes - the word was assimilated into their lexicon as a way of taking ownership of it - but the term is pejorative, however you look at it.

Rationalization? Your joking right?

If women adopted abusive terms for themselves - such as b*tch and wh*re as everyday terms of address for each other - while it might be acceptable within their group, it doesn't change the meaning or history of the words does it?

You see this sort of things in kids with low self-esteem - run someone down enough times, and through negative reinforcement they'll start to believe it and start using those terms to describe themselves.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

so a white boy that got beaten by a bunch of black thugs gets to call them n***'s? and get away with it?

or if a black guy got beaten by a white cop, he get's to call every white cop cr*** pig or something...

I had a neighbor like that. She had been broadsided in her car by a black man many years before. It left her with epileptic seizures. "Anyway, she'd say, "He was a n!gger!" ...and she'd always add, "When he signed his traffic citation, he could only write an X!" She's was f##kin nutty too.

[Reynaldo 0]

Are you serious Alex???

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Call me white trash, dont bother me one bit. Blacks that call each other n###a seems not to bother them either. Sticks and stones.

oh that 'black call themselves #######' argument is already being discussed tons of times.. and its not the same thing

Yes - the word was assimilated into their lexicon as a way of taking ownership of it - but the term is pejorative, however you look at it.

Rationalization? Your joking right?

If women adopted abusive terms for themselves - such as b*tch and wh*re as everyday terms of address for each other - while it might be acceptable within their group, it doesn't change the meaning or history of the words does it?

You see this sort of things in kids with low self-esteem - run someone down enough times, and through negative reinforcement they'll start to believe it and start using those terms to describe themselves.

Look at the progression of names for blacks through history. "Negro" they didnt like it and wanted to be called "blacks" Now african american is the "term" being overly sensitive to names is just plain weak. You and others have labled me with names and I have never ever reported anyone cuz its their opinion, I really dont care.

[Heracles 417]

so a white boy that got beaten by a bunch of black thugs gets to call them n***'s? and get away with it?

or if a black guy got beaten by a white cop, he get's to call every white cop cr*** pig or something...

I had a neighbor like that. She had been broadsided in her car by a black man many years before. HE left her with epileptic seizures. "Anyway, she'd say, "He was a n!gger!" ...and she'd always add, "When he signed his traffic citation, he could only write an X!" She's was f##kin nutty too.

Yes I wonder why she would be angry..

[Heracles 417]

Look at the progression of names for blacks through history. "Negro" they didnt like it and wanted to be called "blacks" Now african american is the "term" being overly sensitive to names is just plain weak. You and others have labled me with names and I have never ever reported anyone cuz its their opinion, I really dont care.

Doesn't Negro mean black in Spanish. Maybe South America should go change their language to accommodate the feelings of others.

You and others have labled me with names and I have never ever reported anyone cuz its their opinion, I really dont care.

Funny how the usual create a thread and cry about people picking on me wankers don't realize that hey..

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Call me white trash, dont bother me one bit. Blacks that call each other n###a seems not to bother them either. Sticks and stones.

oh that 'black call themselves #######' argument is already being discussed tons of times.. and its not the same thing

Yes - the word was assimilated into their lexicon as a way of taking ownership of it - but the term is pejorative, however you look at it.

Rationalization? Your joking right?

If women adopted abusive terms for themselves - such as b*tch and wh*re as everyday terms of address for each other - while it might be acceptable within their group, it doesn't change the meaning or history of the words does it?

You see this sort of things in kids with low self-esteem - run someone down enough times, and through negative reinforcement they'll start to believe it and start using those terms to describe themselves.

Look at the progression of names for blacks through history. "Negro" they didnt like it and wanted to be called "blacks" Now african american is the "term" being overly sensitive to names is just plain weak. You and others have labled me with names and I have never ever reported anyone cuz its their opinion, I really dont care.

Sure... If you think "they" are all of the same opinion in terms of what they call themselves.

I'm not really sure what your point is here - other than that its somehow wrong to express... "reservations" about perjorative racial terms.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Look at the progression of names for blacks through history. "Negro" they didnt like it and wanted to be called "blacks" Now african american is the "term" being overly sensitive to names is just plain weak. You and others have labled me with names and I have never ever reported anyone cuz its their opinion, I really dont care.

Doesn't Negro mean black in Spanish. Maybe South America should go change their language to accommodate the feelings of others.

That's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard... I mean... you don't think that Spain or Spanish-speaking countries have people of differing ethnicities? Do you think the sort of rationalisation in your argument applies to spanish speakers of different ethnicities?

I doubt its even an issue - and yes, there is a difference between a linguistic misunderstanding and a word thats concocted and used with a specifically negative or pejorative intent in mind.

Edited January 31, 2008 by Number 6

[almaty 19]

Friday, February 18, 2000

Greenville, S.C. -- Arizona Sen. John McCain refused to apologize yesterday for his use of a racial slur to condemn the North Vietnamese prison guards who tortured and held him captive during the war.

"I hate the gooks,'' McCain said yesterday in response to a question from reporters aboard his campaign bus. "I will hate them as long as I live.''

...

McCain made no apologies yesterday.

"I was referring to my prison guards,'' McCain said, "and I will continue to refer to them in language that might offend some people because of the beating and torture of my friends.''

...

"If people understood the context, they wouldn't be upset,'' Mike Murphy, a senior adviser to the campaign, said last night.

...

"I will call right now, my interrogator that tortured me, a g00k,'' McCain said. "(I can't believe that) anybody doesn't believe these interrogators and prison guards were cruel and sadistic people who deserve the worst appellations possible.''

McCain said he does not consider the comment an epithet.

"G00k,'' he said, ``is the kindest appellation I can give.''

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?.../18/MN32194.DTL

well, looks like either chuck norris or rambo..be the ambassador to viet nam

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Call me white trash, dont bother me one bit. Blacks that call each other n###a seems not to bother them either. Sticks and stones.

oh that 'black call themselves #######' argument is already being discussed tons of times.. and its not the same thing

Yes - the word was assimilated into their lexicon as a way of taking ownership of it - but the term is pejorative, however you look at it.

Rationalization? Your joking right?

If women adopted abusive terms for themselves - such as b*tch and wh*re as everyday terms of address for each other - while it might be acceptable within their group, it doesn't change the meaning or history of the words does it?

You see this sort of things in kids with low self-esteem - run someone down enough times, and through negative reinforcement they'll start to believe it and start using those terms to describe themselves.

Look at the progression of names for blacks through history. "Negro" they didnt like it and wanted to be called "blacks" Now african american is the "term" being overly sensitive to names is just plain weak. You and others have labled me with names and I have never ever reported anyone cuz its their opinion, I really dont care.

Sure... If you think "they" are all of the same opinion in terms of what they call themselves.

I'm not really sure what your point is here - other than that its somehow wrong to express... "reservations" about perjorative racial terms.

It boils down to this. I dont give a ####### about names and never will. Name calling has been around since the begining of time and always will be. Jesse and Al have made millions raping the subject and some here have bought front row tickets.