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Yes I know that... What I was getting at regarding the quoted passage above was why one intoxicating substance should be treated any differently from the others - in terms of having safeguards built into cars to prevent them from being operated under the influence.

I was really just pointing out the more obvious numbers supporting your statement. I have a tendancy to sound like I'm disagreeing when I'm just being fecetious.

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Of course... the one caveat to all of this pro-marijuana commentary is that it's relatively safe so long as the person or persons remain in their home or someplace similar. If someone under the influence of marijuana were to attempt operating a car (or boat or plane or whatever), the situation might turn out quite badly. Perhaps if there was some mechanism installed in all vehicles that rendered them inoperable if the user was "under the influence" of whatever substance that could make them a danger to society...

Isn't this the exact same issue with alcohol?

I think, if you have a DUI conviction that you can be given a breathalyser to determine whether or not you're fit to drive. They're commercially available I believe.

I think, perhaps, that you misunderstood me. If you'll look at the last sentence in the paragraph you quoted, I say the following: "... if the user was 'under the influence' of whatever substance ..." and while that may lead you to believe I was only speaking about marijuana (since it was the main topic of the thread), when I said "whatever substance" I included alcohol in that statement.

I am quite aware that alcohol is far easier to get and kills many more individuals than drugs of all kinds. However, unless one is an alcoholic, there's relatively little stigma attached to alcohol as opposed to marijuana or other illegal drugs.

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I am quite aware that alcohol is far easier to get and kills many more individuals than drugs of all kinds. However, unless one is an alcoholic, there's relatively little stigma attached to alcohol as opposed to marijuana or other illegal drugs.

Several anti-immigration groups created stigmas to get marijuana banned, because at the time it was popular among the mexican laborers. Marijuana laws were also used to crack down on being openly black in New Orleans.

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If you guys haven't seen it, check out Reefer Madness. Hysterical movie, but it was used as propaganda for criminalization. If you keep in mind that the movie was said to be entirely accurate, your jaw will drop.

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If you guys haven't seen it, check out Reefer Madness. Hysterical movie, but it was used as propaganda for criminalization. If you keep in mind that the movie was said to be entirely accurate, your jaw will drop.

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I agree with everyone else in that it should be legalized but I've got another question. Why is it that substances like Salvia remain legal when they induce similar "altered" states? It seems to me to be pretty similar to marijuana (but I don't really know much about it) so I don't understand why it is legal and pot is not.

Salvia is a COMPLETELY different animal. Very different effects, apparently.

Salvia is actually being outlawed as we speak. Within the last 2 years it was made illegal in Louisiana. Other states have done or are doing the same.

Ok, I don't really know anything technical about it besides the experience it gives one that uses it!

Reading about the effect of any drug is pointless. Ya gotta try it. Salvia and pot are not even close.

Is there anyone here that is against legalization? Just wondering.

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I agree with everyone else in that it should be legalized but I've got another question. Why is it that substances like Salvia remain legal when they induce similar "altered" states? It seems to me to be pretty similar to marijuana (but I don't really know much about it) so I don't understand why it is legal and pot is not.

Salvia is a COMPLETELY different animal. Very different effects, apparently.

Salvia is actually being outlawed as we speak. Within the last 2 years it was made illegal in Louisiana. Other states have done or are doing the same.

Ok, I don't really know anything technical about it besides the experience it gives one that uses it!

Reading about the effect of any drug is pointless. Ya gotta try it. Salvia and pot are not even close.

Is there anyone here that is against legalization? Just wondering.

Charles has said he's against legalization of marijuana.

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Charles has said he's against legalization of marijuana.

I was just wondering. He's entitled to that opinion.

But, alcohol prohibition didn't go so well. Neither is the drug prohibition.

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I agree with everyone else in that it should be legalized but I've got another question. Why is it that substances like Salvia remain legal when they induce similar "altered" states? It seems to me to be pretty similar to marijuana (but I don't really know much about it) so I don't understand why it is legal and pot is not.

Salvia is a COMPLETELY different animal. Very different effects, apparently.

Salvia is actually being outlawed as we speak. Within the last 2 years it was made illegal in Louisiana. Other states have done or are doing the same.

Ok, I don't really know anything technical about it besides the experience it gives one that uses it!

Reading about the effect of any drug is pointless. Ya gotta try it. Salvia and pot are not even close.

Is there anyone here that is against legalization? Just wondering.

i think it needs to be legalized....and prohibtion on etoh, as you stated was a dismal failure

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If you guys haven't seen it, check out Reefer Madness. Hysterical movie, but it was used as propaganda for criminalization. If you keep in mind that the movie was said to be entirely accurate, your jaw will drop.

I love the piano player's crazy eyes. Classic.

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I agree with everyone else in that it should be legalized but I've got another question. Why is it that substances like Salvia remain legal when they induce similar "altered" states? It seems to me to be pretty similar to marijuana (but I don't really know much about it) so I don't understand why it is legal and pot is not.

Salvia is a COMPLETELY different animal. Very different effects, apparently.

Salvia is actually being outlawed as we speak. Within the last 2 years it was made illegal in Louisiana. Other states have done or are doing the same.

Ok, I don't really know anything technical about it besides the experience it gives one that uses it!

Reading about the effect of any drug is pointless. Ya gotta try it. Salvia and pot are not even close.

Is there anyone here that is against legalization? Just wondering.

Charles has said he's against legalization of marijuana.

i have to wonder how many that are for the legalization of it use it :whistle:

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i would hope some would use it..and mellow out a bit...

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i have to wonder how many that are for the legalization of it use it :whistle:

And how does that change the validity of the argument?

I'd also be willing to bet that a large number of those against it have driven drunk before, which is far worse.

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