Attorney General Edwards?

[rebeccajo 14]

There's many in this country that disagree........I've lived through this once before, during Vietnam. It's become a popular movement, and "Cool" to be anti-war....

Might I remind most of you that you were indeed whistling a different tune shortly after 2001.

America has a very short memory....

Kaydee - I'm old enough to remember too. In my opinion it's a very different aversion most Americans have to this war. For one thing, we aren't spitting on our soldiers. And young people aren't in danger of being sent into combat just because their number comes up.

As one old enough to remember, my main problem with this war is my memories of Vietnam. You can't force the political landscape of a nation to change if the change isn't desired from within. Why any one would shed an ounce of American blood - again - on such a situation is beyond reason to me.

[Peikko 1,575]

Ok, quick question, who came up with this '... opinion based not on fact but emotion......' sound bite? It seems to be the catch phrase of the right when they can't be bothered to critique an argument. It has to have come from somewhere but where?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Ok, quick question, who came up with this '... opinion based not on fact but emotion......' sound bite? It seems to be the catch phrase of the right when they can't be bothered to critique an argument. It has to have come from somewhere but where?

Talk radio....that'd be my guess.

[kaydee457 13]

There's many in this country that disagree........I've lived through this once before, during Vietnam. It's become a popular movement, and "Cool" to be anti-war....

Might I remind most of you that you were indeed whistling a different tune shortly after 2001.

America has a very short memory....

Kaydee - I'm old enough to remember too. In my opinion it's a very different aversion most Americans have to this war. For one thing, we aren't spitting on our soldiers. And young people aren't in danger of being sent into combat just because their number comes up.

As one old enough to remember, my main problem with this war is my memories of Vietnam. You can't force the political landscape of a nation to change if the change isn't desired from within. Why any one would shed an ounce of American blood - again - on such a situation is beyond reason to me.

You're the very reason why we employ people schooled in geopolitics.......Perhaps you can't see why because your perspective is simply limited to your experiences (forgive me if I assume that you're an everyday citizen like many of us).....

There are consequences that you and I don't think about when geopolitical problems, and the proposed solutions to those problems arise.

For example, how did you feel waiting in line for gas at the pumps 30 years ago? How about those that lost their jobs as a result of OPEC's actions? Was this situation something that was intolerable to you? Did you at that time demand your government to do something, anything to alleviate the situation?

Perhaps it may grate on many liberals that aspire to lofty empty platitudes of "live and let live" but the reality is that they're the first to cry how terrible things are when they can't drive their gas guzzling SUV's to Johnny's soccer game.....

The simple practical fact is that there's a finite amount of natural resourses on this earth and yes, we, as U.S. citizens need these resources to subside, and protect our way of life.....

Having said that, there are people in our government that observe, and analyze the trends in a volatile geopolitical landscape and act when our interests are at stake.

Perhaps you don't understand the reasons we went to war but I can assure you that you, and I are not privvy to all the information that a U.S. President is privvy to.

We must have stability in that part of the world lest we simply go back to the old wild, wild west....

What kind of horse do you want to drive?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I never understood the mentality that experience trumps all forms of intelligence and wisdom. Some people need to get burned by sticking their hand over a flame before they know it's gonna hurt like hell, while others can deduce that same conclusion using their intelligence and wisdom. Experience is a good thing, but it isn't an end all and be all. If it were, we should all be on a life long quest to experience everything possible just so we can understand it.

Edited January 26, 2008 by Mister Fancypants

[Peikko 1,575]

...For example, how did you feel waiting in line for gas at the pumps 30 years ago? How about those that lost their jobs as a result of OPEC's actions? Was this situation something that was intolerable to you? Did you at that time demand your government to do something, anything to alleviate the situation?

Perhaps it may grate on many liberals that aspire to lofty empty platitudes of "live and let live" but the reality is thatthey're the first to cry how terrible things are when they can't drive their gas guzzling SUV's to Johnny's soccer game...

Talk about emotive and confused. You ask some bizarre quesitons and give yourself whatever answer suits your twisted logic. Not exactly furthering your claim to factual argument.

[Peikko 1,575]

Talk radio huh? I wish I could pin it down to a person, they deserve a stern letter of rebuke!

[kaydee457 13]

I never understood the mentality that experience trumps all forms of intelligence and wisdom. Some people need to get burned by sticking their hand over a flame before they know it's gonna hurt like hell, while others can deduce that same conclusion using their intelligence and wisdom. Experience is a good thing, but it isn't an end all and be all. If it were, we should all be on a life long quest to experience everything possible just so we can understand it.

HA, HA, HA.......

Translation for all- This says that this person has no direct experience.......

Nuff said....

Edited January 27, 2008 by kaydee457

[rebeccajo 14]

There's many in this country that disagree........I've lived through this once before, during Vietnam. It's become a popular movement, and "Cool" to be anti-war....

Might I remind most of you that you were indeed whistling a different tune shortly after 2001.

America has a very short memory....

Kaydee - I'm old enough to remember too. In my opinion it's a very different aversion most Americans have to this war. For one thing, we aren't spitting on our soldiers. And young people aren't in danger of being sent into combat just because their number comes up.

As one old enough to remember, my main problem with this war is my memories of Vietnam. You can't force the political landscape of a nation to change if the change isn't desired from within. Why any one would shed an ounce of American blood - again - on such a situation is beyond reason to me.

You're the very reason why we employ people schooled in geopolitics.......Perhaps you can't see why because your perspective is simply limited to your experiences (forgive me if I assume that you're an everyday citizen like many of us).....

There are consequences that you and I don't think about when geopolitical problems, and the proposed solutions to those problems arise.

For example, how did you feel waiting in line for gas at the pumps 30 years ago? How about those that lost their jobs as a result of OPEC's actions? Was this situation something that was intolerable to you? Did you at that time demand your government to do something, anything to alleviate the situation?

Perhaps it may grate on many liberals that aspire to lofty empty platitudes of "live and let live" but the reality is that they're the first to cry how terrible things are when they can't drive their gas guzzling SUV's to Johnny's soccer game.....

The simple practical fact is that there's a finite amount of natural resourses on this earth and yes, we, as U.S. citizens need these resources to subside, and protect our way of life.....

Having said that, there are people in our government that observe, and analyze the trends in a volatile geopolitical landscape and act when our interests are at stake.

Perhaps you don't understand the reasons we went to war but I can assure you that you, and I are not privvy to all the information that a U.S. President is privvy to.

We must have stability in that part of the world lest we simply go back to the old wild, wild west....

What kind of horse do you want to drive?

If you're telling me we went to war for oil, I had that one figured out already.

[kaydee457 13]

There's many in this country that disagree........I've lived through this once before, during Vietnam. It's become a popular movement, and "Cool" to be anti-war....

Might I remind most of you that you were indeed whistling a different tune shortly after 2001.

America has a very short memory....

Kaydee - I'm old enough to remember too. In my opinion it's a very different aversion most Americans have to this war. For one thing, we aren't spitting on our soldiers. And young people aren't in danger of being sent into combat just because their number comes up.

As one old enough to remember, my main problem with this war is my memories of Vietnam. You can't force the political landscape of a nation to change if the change isn't desired from within. Why any one would shed an ounce of American blood - again - on such a situation is beyond reason to me.

You're the very reason why we employ people schooled in geopolitics.......Perhaps you can't see why because your perspective is simply limited to your experiences (forgive me if I assume that you're an everyday citizen like many of us).....

There are consequences that you and I don't think about when geopolitical problems, and the proposed solutions to those problems arise.

For example, how did you feel waiting in line for gas at the pumps 30 years ago? How about those that lost their jobs as a result of OPEC's actions? Was this situation something that was intolerable to you? Did you at that time demand your government to do something, anything to alleviate the situation?

Perhaps it may grate on many liberals that aspire to lofty empty platitudes of "live and let live" but the reality is that they're the first to cry how terrible things are when they can't drive their gas guzzling SUV's to Johnny's soccer game.....

The simple practical fact is that there's a finite amount of natural resourses on this earth and yes, we, as U.S. citizens need these resources to subside, and protect our way of life.....

Having said that, there are people in our government that observe, and analyze the trends in a volatile geopolitical landscape and act when our interests are at stake.

Perhaps you don't understand the reasons we went to war but I can assure you that you, and I are not privvy to all the information that a U.S. President is privvy to.

We must have stability in that part of the world lest we simply go back to the old wild, wild west....

What kind of horse do you want to drive?

If you're telling me we went to war for oil, I had that one figured out already.

Oh, then what's the problem? You should be thankful that you have a government that looks out for you.....Luckily you had Reagan to ignore your faulty logic in the 80's.....

Ponder what would happen if IRAN expands its influence to IRAQ, and then turns the spigot off...

TOTAL WAR...FRANCE, GERMANY, ITALY, GREAT BRITAIN.........WORLD WAR III.....Perspective, perspective.....unfortunately americans are ill educated and lack the perspective to realize the consequences of their "isolationalism"......

Been there and done that......

[kaydee457 13]

...For example, how did you feel waiting in line for gas at the pumps 30 years ago? How about those that lost their jobs as a result of OPEC's actions? Was this situation something that was intolerable to you? Did you at that time demand your government to do something, anything to alleviate the situation?

Perhaps it may grate on many liberals that aspire to lofty empty platitudes of "live and let live" but the reality is thatthey're the first to cry how terrible things are when they can't drive their gas guzzling SUV's to Johnny's soccer game...

Talk about emotive and confused. You ask some bizarre quesitons and give yourself whatever answer suits your twisted logic. Not exactly furthering your claim to factual argument.

How old are you?....Clearly you are delusional. You should thank your lucky stars that we have people employed in this government, and that serve in the military to ensure that your tin foil hat isn't tarnished unecessarily......

LOL....Enjoy the freedom that others have provided you gratis.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There's many in this country that disagree........I've lived through this once before, during Vietnam. It's become a popular movement, and "Cool" to be anti-war....

Might I remind most of you that you were indeed whistling a different tune shortly after 2001.

America has a very short memory....

Kaydee - I'm old enough to remember too. In my opinion it's a very different aversion most Americans have to this war. For one thing, we aren't spitting on our soldiers. And young people aren't in danger of being sent into combat just because their number comes up.

As one old enough to remember, my main problem with this war is my memories of Vietnam. You can't force the political landscape of a nation to change if the change isn't desired from within. Why any one would shed an ounce of American blood - again - on such a situation is beyond reason to me.

You're the very reason why we employ people schooled in geopolitics.......Perhaps you can't see why because your perspective is simply limited to your experiences (forgive me if I assume that you're an everyday citizen like many of us).....

There are consequences that you and I don't think about when geopolitical problems, and the proposed solutions to those problems arise.

For example, how did you feel waiting in line for gas at the pumps 30 years ago? How about those that lost their jobs as a result of OPEC's actions? Was this situation something that was intolerable to you? Did you at that time demand your government to do something, anything to alleviate the situation?

Perhaps it may grate on many liberals that aspire to lofty empty platitudes of "live and let live" but the reality is that they're the first to cry how terrible things are when they can't drive their gas guzzling SUV's to Johnny's soccer game.....

The simple practical fact is that there's a finite amount of natural resourses on this earth and yes, we, as U.S. citizens need these resources to subside, and protect our way of life.....

Having said that, there are people in our government that observe, and analyze the trends in a volatile geopolitical landscape and act when our interests are at stake.

Perhaps you don't understand the reasons we went to war but I can assure you that you, and I are not privvy to all the information that a U.S. President is privvy to.

We must have stability in that part of the world lest we simply go back to the old wild, wild west....

What kind of horse do you want to drive?

On the bolded bits - "our" interests are not necessarily the same as "theirs". In fact this is the essence of a lot of criticisms against the Iraq war. I don't and never bought the whole "threat to national security" argument. That said, I'm sure someone did and is getting rich from the goings on in Iraq.

[kaydee457 13]

There's many in this country that disagree........I've lived through this once before, during Vietnam. It's become a popular movement, and "Cool" to be anti-war....

Might I remind most of you that you were indeed whistling a different tune shortly after 2001.

America has a very short memory....

Kaydee - I'm old enough to remember too. In my opinion it's a very different aversion most Americans have to this war. For one thing, we aren't spitting on our soldiers. And young people aren't in danger of being sent into combat just because their number comes up.

As one old enough to remember, my main problem with this war is my memories of Vietnam. You can't force the political landscape of a nation to change if the change isn't desired from within. Why any one would shed an ounce of American blood - again - on such a situation is beyond reason to me.

You're the very reason why we employ people schooled in geopolitics.......Perhaps you can't see why because your perspective is simply limited to your experiences (forgive me if I assume that you're an everyday citizen like many of us).....

There are consequences that you and I don't think about when geopolitical problems, and the proposed solutions to those problems arise.

For example, how did you feel waiting in line for gas at the pumps 30 years ago? How about those that lost their jobs as a result of OPEC's actions? Was this situation something that was intolerable to you? Did you at that time demand your government to do something, anything to alleviate the situation?

Perhaps it may grate on many liberals that aspire to lofty empty platitudes of "live and let live" but the reality is that they're the first to cry how terrible things are when they can't drive their gas guzzling SUV's to Johnny's soccer game.....

The simple practical fact is that there's a finite amount of natural resourses on this earth and yes, we, as U.S. citizens need these resources to subside, and protect our way of life.....

Having said that, there are people in our government that observe, and analyze the trends in a volatile geopolitical landscape and act when our interests are at stake.

Perhaps you don't understand the reasons we went to war but I can assure you that you, and I are not privvy to all the information that a U.S. President is privvy to.

We must have stability in that part of the world lest we simply go back to the old wild, wild west....

What kind of horse do you want to drive?

On the bolded bits - "our" interests are not necessarily the same as "theirs". In fact this is the essence of a lot of criticisms against the Iraq war. I don't and never bought the whole "threat to national security" argument. That said, I'm sure someone did and is getting rich from the goings on in Iraq.

There's just no substitute for perspective and experience. If you believe what you say in these threads then you should volunteer your time to the government to help produce change.

Perhaps you could put your high paying career on hiatus and take a low paying job at the State Department whereby your learned opinions would be given the weight they deserve!

Hey, a subordinate government job like that always looks good on your resume; particularly those high powered thinkers as yourself....

Just a suggestion....You seem to be wasting your time espousing your opinions here for FREE, why not get paid for what they're really worth!

Edited January 27, 2008 by kaydee457

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There's many in this country that disagree........I've lived through this once before, during Vietnam. It's become a popular movement, and "Cool" to be anti-war....

Might I remind most of you that you were indeed whistling a different tune shortly after 2001.

America has a very short memory....

Kaydee - I'm old enough to remember too. In my opinion it's a very different aversion most Americans have to this war. For one thing, we aren't spitting on our soldiers. And young people aren't in danger of being sent into combat just because their number comes up.

As one old enough to remember, my main problem with this war is my memories of Vietnam. You can't force the political landscape of a nation to change if the change isn't desired from within. Why any one would shed an ounce of American blood - again - on such a situation is beyond reason to me.

You're the very reason why we employ people schooled in geopolitics.......Perhaps you can't see why because your perspective is simply limited to your experiences (forgive me if I assume that you're an everyday citizen like many of us).....

There are consequences that you and I don't think about when geopolitical problems, and the proposed solutions to those problems arise.

For example, how did you feel waiting in line for gas at the pumps 30 years ago? How about those that lost their jobs as a result of OPEC's actions? Was this situation something that was intolerable to you? Did you at that time demand your government to do something, anything to alleviate the situation?

Perhaps it may grate on many liberals that aspire to lofty empty platitudes of "live and let live" but the reality is that they're the first to cry how terrible things are when they can't drive their gas guzzling SUV's to Johnny's soccer game.....

The simple practical fact is that there's a finite amount of natural resourses on this earth and yes, we, as U.S. citizens need these resources to subside, and protect our way of life.....

Having said that, there are people in our government that observe, and analyze the trends in a volatile geopolitical landscape and act when our interests are at stake.

Perhaps you don't understand the reasons we went to war but I can assure you that you, and I are not privvy to all the information that a U.S. President is privvy to.

We must have stability in that part of the world lest we simply go back to the old wild, wild west....

What kind of horse do you want to drive?

On the bolded bits - "our" interests are not necessarily the same as "theirs". In fact this is the essence of a lot of criticisms against the Iraq war. I don't and never bought the whole "threat to national security" argument. That said, I'm sure someone did and is getting rich from the goings on in Iraq.

There's just no substitute for perspective and experience. If you believe what you say in these threads then you should volunteer your time to the government to help produce change.

Perhaps you could put your high paying career on hiatus and take a low paying job at the State Department whereby your learned opinions would be given the weight they deserve!

Hey, a subordinate government job like that always looks good on your resume; particularly those high powered thinkers as yourself....

Just a suggestion....You seem to be wasting your time espousing your opinions here for FREE, why not get paid for what they're really worth!

Hmmm... Feel free to continue banging on about this vaunted "experience" you allegedly have - but you're really doing a piss poor job of convincing me you actually have it. There's little worse, IMO, than false advertising - especially that which betrays no small amount of megalomania.

[kaydee457 13]

There's many in this country that disagree........I've lived through this once before, during Vietnam. It's become a popular movement, and "Cool" to be anti-war....

Might I remind most of you that you were indeed whistling a different tune shortly after 2001.

America has a very short memory....

Kaydee - I'm old enough to remember too. In my opinion it's a very different aversion most Americans have to this war. For one thing, we aren't spitting on our soldiers. And young people aren't in danger of being sent into combat just because their number comes up.

As one old enough to remember, my main problem with this war is my memories of Vietnam. You can't force the political landscape of a nation to change if the change isn't desired from within. Why any one would shed an ounce of American blood - again - on such a situation is beyond reason to me.

You're the very reason why we employ people schooled in geopolitics.......Perhaps you can't see why because your perspective is simply limited to your experiences (forgive me if I assume that you're an everyday citizen like many of us).....

There are consequences that you and I don't think about when geopolitical problems, and the proposed solutions to those problems arise.

For example, how did you feel waiting in line for gas at the pumps 30 years ago? How about those that lost their jobs as a result of OPEC's actions? Was this situation something that was intolerable to you? Did you at that time demand your government to do something, anything to alleviate the situation?

Perhaps it may grate on many liberals that aspire to lofty empty platitudes of "live and let live" but the reality is that they're the first to cry how terrible things are when they can't drive their gas guzzling SUV's to Johnny's soccer game.....

The simple practical fact is that there's a finite amount of natural resourses on this earth and yes, we, as U.S. citizens need these resources to subside, and protect our way of life.....

Having said that, there are people in our government that observe, and analyze the trends in a volatile geopolitical landscape and act when our interests are at stake.

Perhaps you don't understand the reasons we went to war but I can assure you that you, and I are not privvy to all the information that a U.S. President is privvy to.

We must have stability in that part of the world lest we simply go back to the old wild, wild west....

What kind of horse do you want to drive?

On the bolded bits - "our" interests are not necessarily the same as "theirs". In fact this is the essence of a lot of criticisms against the Iraq war. I don't and never bought the whole "threat to national security" argument. That said, I'm sure someone did and is getting rich from the goings on in Iraq.

There's just no substitute for perspective and experience. If you believe what you say in these threads then you should volunteer your time to the government to help produce change.

Perhaps you could put your high paying career on hiatus and take a low paying job at the State Department whereby your learned opinions would be given the weight they deserve!

Hey, a subordinate government job like that always looks good on your resume; particularly those high powered thinkers as yourself....

Just a suggestion....You seem to be wasting your time espousing your opinions here for FREE, why not get paid for what they're really worth!

Hmmm... Feel free to continue banging on about this vaunted "experience" you allegedly have - but you're really doing a piss poor job of convincing me you actually have it. There's little worse, IMO, than false advertising - especially that which betrays no small amount of megalomania.

Well, there are people here that know of my "experience" and guys like you are the reason why I don't broadcast it.....

Let's just say that I travel to the Middle East, frequently, and that I'm privy to much more "practical" knowledge that about the worldly “things” than you possess.....and It's not in my best interest to identify who I am.

Given that I want to keep my head attached to my body I'll leave it at that.