Hamas shut off the power to Palestine

[mawilson 2,133]

beg pardon? what part of bombing the king david hotel, sending mail bombs to british politicians, bombing the british embassy in rome, murdering folke bernadotte, killing 2 british policemen in a train bomb, killing a british bomb expert who tried to defuse bombs placed in a jerusalem post office, and murdering hundreds of arab civilians ISN'T terrorism? irgun proclaimed that "political violence and terrorism were legitimate tools in the Jewish national struggle for the Land of Israel". they always admitted to it, even though it was always unapologetic. why are you in so much denial about it?

Got any more recent examples, "Wonderful"?

[sandinista! 1,816]

if enough time passes it's not terrorism? so in 60 years are you gonna stop thinking hamas' ####### from 2008 isn't terrorism cause it's no longer recent?

[Empress of Groovy 373]

Hamas = terrorist organization launching rockets at civilians

Israel = sovereign nation defending themselves

Who here has the nerve to defend Hamas?..... that's what I thought.

That's the question, is it not?

I don't think too many rational people who have taken a dispassionate look at the facts surrounding the creation of the modern state of Israel have zero sympathy for Palestinians.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

beg pardon? what part of bombing the king david hotel, sending mail bombs to british politicians, bombing the british embassy in rome, murdering folke bernadotte, killing 2 british policemen in a train bomb, killing a british bomb expert who tried to defuse bombs placed in a jerusalem post office, and murdering hundreds of arab civilians ISN'T terrorism? irgun proclaimed that "political violence and terrorism were legitimate tools in the Jewish national struggle for the Land of Israel". they always admitted to it, even though it was always unapologetic. why are you in so much denial about it?

Why do you love Hamas?

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Hamas = terrorist organization launching rockets at civilians

Israel = sovereign nation defending themselves

Who here has the nerve to defend Hamas?..... that's what I thought.

That's the question, is it not?

I don't think too many rational people who have taken a dispassionate look at the facts surrounding the creation of the modern state of Israel have zero sympathy for Palestinians.

I have sympathy for the Palestinians because they are led by terrorists. But Palestine rains down rockets on Israeli civilians on a daily basis. DOES ANY ONE OF YOU DENOUNCE THIS?????????? ALL I SEE IS YOUR DAMNATION OF ISRAEL. NOT AN OUNCE OF RESPONSIBILITY IS DIRECTED AT HAMAS. You reap what you sow.

Gooooooo Israel!!!!!!

[eric&gen 0]

HAMAS is a pu$$y.

[almaty 19]

i doubt if anyone in Israel or the Middle East would write that brother eric.....

[Empress of Groovy 373]

Hamas = terrorist organization launching rockets at civilians

Israel = sovereign nation defending themselves

Who here has the nerve to defend Hamas?..... that's what I thought.

That's the question, is it not?

I don't think too many rational people who have taken a dispassionate look at the facts surrounding the creation of the modern state of Israel have zero sympathy for Palestinians.

I have sympathy for the Palestinians because they are led by terrorists. But Palestine rains down rockets on Israeli civilians on a daily basis. DOES ANY ONE OF YOU DENOUNCE THIS?????????? ALL I SEE IS YOUR DAMNATION OF ISRAEL. NOT AN OUNCE OF RESPONSIBILITY IS DIRECTED AT HAMAS. You reap what you sow.

Gooooooo Israel!!!!!!

Nothing I've said indicates damnation of Israel, and no one is defending "raining down rockets on Israeli civilians."

But it's also hard to defend such actions as IDF raining bombs on Lebanese civilians (1,000 plus killed last summer), for example, in retaliation for the actions of Hezbollah along the border.

It's not a simple either/or position. People firmly on one side or the other try to make it so, which further distances a solution.

Edited January 25, 2008 by AOS despair

[mawilson 2,133]

if enough time passes it's not terrorism? so in 60 years are you gonna stop thinking hamas' ####### from 2008 isn't terrorism cause it's no longer recent?

No, but you can't call something that happened 60 years ago "terrorism".

Times have changed. The international laws that we have today were created

in the aftermath of World War II.

If you apply today's laws retroactively, all countries are guilty of terrorism.

Even the Founding Fathers of the United States are terrorists, because they

participated in the illegal armed overthrow of the existing political order

(aka American Revolution).

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... the Founding Fathers of the United States are terrorists...

[mawilson 2,133]

LOL

[Empress of Groovy 373]

if enough time passes it's not terrorism? so in 60 years are you gonna stop thinking hamas' ####### from 2008 isn't terrorism cause it's no longer recent?

No, but you can't call something that happened 60 years ago "terrorism".

Times have changed. The international laws that we have today were created

in the aftermath of World War II.

If you apply today's laws retroactively, all countries are guilty of terrorism.

Even the Founding Fathers of the United States are terrorists, because they

participated in the illegal armed overthrow of the existing political order

(aka American Revolution).

And modern Israel was also created in the aftermath of World War II. I think that's ta me go hiontach's point: We're not talking ancient history here. Modern Israel as an entity will be 60 in May, younger than my mother.

You can't read about the tactics used by the various groups back then (Haganah, Irgun, Lehi) against the British and Arabs without drawing parallels to the current conflict.

[mawilson 2,133]

You can't read about the tactics used by the various groups back then (Haganah, Irgun, Lehi) against the British and Arabs without drawing parallels to the current conflict.

Yes, you can. Apples and oranges.

[♥JP♥ 5]

To say that Israel is an innocent nation is the same as saying Hamas in innocent IMO. I mean really is this about Hamas and the Israeli government or about the millions of innocent on BOTH sides suffering on a daily basis. Israel is NO better than Hamas, the only difference is they are recognized as a Government which means they are allowed to terrorize other nations and its called "defense".

[Empress of Groovy 373]

You can't read about the tactics used by the various groups back then (Haganah, Irgun, Lehi) against the British and Arabs without drawing parallels to the current conflict.

Yes, you can. Apples and oranges.

Do you care to elaborate?