A Day without Immigrants

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I hope not.... *crossing fingers*

We'll see. Maybe I'm just reading the tea leaves wrong, who the fukc knows.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I was also unemployed, not too very long ago...which brings up another interesting point...you've got people in there who are searching for professional positions-not strawberry pickers. Factoring in that, the percentage actually available to fill those positions is even lower.

And here we are picking strawberries again. Is IFCO in the strawberry picking business? Haven't seen the strawberry fields around their Sharonville, OH plant.

I wish people would engage in an honest debate every now and then. Illegals are not only manning the strawberry fields anymore. Nor are they working only sub minimum wage jobs. We're way past that. Way past.

[pax 0]

No one has told me who picked the strawberries before undocumented immigrants did!

Seriously, I'm not being snarky. Did the industrialization of farming happen because an influx of illegal immigrants made it possible? Or were there legal workers in the strawberry fields at some point?

Nor are they working only sub minimum wage jobs. We're way past that. Way past.

I've often heard that many illegal immigrants are employed as home health aides, and my mother used to do that work before she got her nursing degree. So, yes, illegal immigrants aren't just picking strawberries, so to speak.

[CarolineM 0]

i would say poor white people...but before that I would assume the market was smaller and it was a more small scale operation - I mean think about how long ago tht would really be?

I mean we had immigrants doing our work LONG LONG ago - like the chinese out west...

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Walmart hires illegal immigrants????????

Only as sub-contractors and after hours on top of it. They wouldn't dare hire them directly.

[mercuryroad 0]

No one has told me who picked the strawberries before undocumented immigrants did!

Farming was done primarily by the family.....that has changed quite a bit. Lots of kids leaving the farms, plus the money is not always very good, which means better opportunities elsewhere.

[Traviesa 0]

I was also unemployed, not too very long ago...which brings up another interesting point...you've got people in there who are searching for professional positions-not strawberry pickers. Factoring in that, the percentage actually available to fill those positions is even lower.

And here we are picking strawberries again. Is IFCO in the strawberry picking business? Haven't seen the strawberry fields around their Sharonville, OH plant.

I wish people would engage in an honest debate every now and then. Illegals are not only manning the strawberry fields anymore. Nor are they working only sub minimum wage jobs. We're way past that. Way past.

Not JUST but they ARE there, aren't they? Will you be honest in this debate as well?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I was also unemployed, not too very long ago...which brings up another interesting point...you've got people in there who are searching for professional positions-not strawberry pickers. Factoring in that, the percentage actually available to fill those positions is even lower.

And here we are picking strawberries again. Is IFCO in the strawberry picking business? Haven't seen the strawberry fields around their Sharonville, OH plant.

I wish people would engage in an honest debate every now and then. Illegals are not only manning the strawberry fields anymore. Nor are they working only sub minimum wage jobs. We're way past that. Way past.

Not JUST but they ARE there, aren't they? Will you be honest in this debate as well?

Of course they are there. I never claimed anything to the contrary. But then again, most agricultural workers (more than 75%) are legally employed. As are most construction workers (better than 80%), janitors (better than 75%), meatpackers (better than 80%) and so on and so forth. That means not only could these jobs be done by legal employees but they are actually getting done by legal employees. Each and every day right here in the gool ole' USofA.

I said it before and I say it again: Illegals want to go "on strike". Bring it on!

Let America show you that we can make without you. We're calling your bluff!

[Traviesa 0]

Ok now I have to ask where you're getting your numbers. Please provide the source. Thanks.

[Leafgal 3]

The one comment about illegals in the country (and I am not in the country yet) but it is the same here in Canada, if you give in to the illegals you must give them citizenship, if you give the illegals citizenship it will take longer for those of us trying to get it done legally. Here we are deporting many by the plane load, and they are protesting in the streets that they have been here for 10 years, well then I say to you lucky for you that you got away with it for so long, now go home and come back legally.

Leafgal

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Ok now I have to ask where you're getting your numbers. Please provide the source. Thanks.

I read them somewhere a few weeks back. Beat me but I don't remember where I read them. Do you have other stats available that show a different picture?

[Traviesa 0]

Ok now I have to ask where you're getting your numbers. Please provide the source. Thanks.

I read them somewhere a few weeks back. Beat me but I don't remember where I read them. Do you have other stats available that show a different picture?

I don't have any numbers, no. I know a lot of people with real-life experience in these fields who would disagree with you though. In my mind, real life experience is more valid than what I read somewhere because the individual has actually been there and seen it.

[CarolineM 0]

i would say a few Hear-say stories are less reliable than statisics. I disagree. Plus you need a national perspective. Just because what's going on in West Va. is one way - doesn't mean it's the same in California.

[Traviesa 0]

i would say a few Hear-say stories are less reliable than statisics. I disagree. Plus you need a national perspective. Just because what's going on in West Va. is one way - doesn't mean it's the same in California.

I'm not even referring to W.Va. There are restaurant workers there, which haven't even yet been mentioned on this thread. I'm talking about people who spent most of their lives in farm life in various states throughout the US.

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here we go again....