New Theory on CSC Transfers

[Converse34 1]

If it makes you feel any better, I agree with the K-1 assessment - K-1 are much more likely to be transferred, and on this board alone I've only seen one non-K1 (I don't really pay much attention to K-3, so not sure about that, so I'm referring to visitor, student, VWP, etc) transferred. The rest of us pretty much count on having an interview.

That's fine. All I'm saying there is something that determines applicants "that are unlikely to require an interview".

You've seen the evidence. What in your opinion would obviate that?

Because randomness doesn't make sense.

[LaL 418]

... and if you both clear FBI/CIA and whatever else background check and name check clears within about week or less..

If people on the CSC transferee list cleared FBI namechecks in a week then no one would be waiting monts upon months. The only "check" one can pass in days in the fingerprint.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/CS...s_121305_ST.pdf

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Receipts Issued from the California Service Center (CSC)

Some U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) customers may receive a receipt or transfer notice from the California Service Center (CSC) for cases they filed with local District Offices in the USCIS Western, Central, or Eastern Region or with the National Benefits Center. This is occurring because, in the context of backlog elimination, some cases that are unlikely to require an interview have been transferred from district offices with longer backlogs to the California Service Center where there is greater existing adjudications capacity. These transfer notices reflect receipt by the CSC of a case that has been transferred there to be adjudicated, rather than original receipt of the case by USCIS. For newly filed cases, customers may receive their first receipt notice from CSC, rather than the National Benefits Center or the District Office.

• Case types include the following:

• Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Resident or Adjust Status;

• Form I-130, Petition for Alien Relative; ? Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence;

• Form N-565, Application for Replacement of Citizenship Document; and

• Form N-600, Application for Certification of Citizenship.

For I-485, I-130, N-565, and N-600 cases, affected applicants will receive a notice from the CSC with a receipt number. This notice confirms that the case has been successfully entered into the electronic database. Please refer to the new CSC receipt number if you need to inquire about the case. For I-751s, customers will not receive a new receipt and may first learn of the transfer of their case through a Request for Evidence. While processing a relocated case, the CSC may determine that additional information or documentation is needed before a final decision can be made. USCIS would like to remind ALL applicants that it is very important to pay close attention to the return address noted on all requests for additional information or documentation, to ensure that the response is sent to the correct USCIS location. Approval notices will reflect the original filing (priority) date.

Please allow 180-days before inquiring in reference to the status of these cases. For additional information, contact the National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283.

edited to correct press release.

Edited January 22, 2008 by LaL

[rebeccajo 14]

If it makes you feel any better, I agree with the K-1 assessment - K-1 are much more likely to be transferred, and on this board alone I've only seen one non-K1 (I don't really pay much attention to K-3, so not sure about that, so I'm referring to visitor, student, VWP, etc) transferred. The rest of us pretty much count on having an interview.

That's fine. All I'm saying there is something that determines applicants "that are unlikely to require an interview".

You've seen the evidence. What in your opinion would obviate that?

Because randomness doesn't make sense.

Then how else do you explain that some cases (after a transfer) DO get sent back for an interview? Doesn't that tell you the first selection is a random pull?

Edited January 22, 2008 by rebeccajo

[KarenCee 3]

If people on the CSC transferee list cleared FBI namechecks in a week then no one would be waiting monts upon months.

Agreed. My husband was in namecheck for 9 months and his file was transferred to CSC. Other couples who were transferred were approved in a matter of weeks. From the same country too, so one can't say "oh it's because they're from this country or that".

There is no rhyme or reason for the transfers. Point blank. Like Becca said...that is all there is to it. It will drive you nuts to try and speculate and come up with a reason. Why worry about it?

[zqt3344 21]

Maybe but maybe not, so you think they are going to transfer and not check background or name check before transfer? Does not make much sense, just extra work on them to then transfer case again, but it might be that way, hard to tell. I seriously doubt it. Whatever it is, there is a reason, who knows, but there is some sort of criteria that you do not know nor do I and there is no random reason for it, the USA Feds always operate for a reason.

... and if you both clear FBI/CIA and whatever else background check and name check clears within about week or less..

If people on the CSC transferee list cleared FBI namechecks in a week then no one would be waiting monts upon months. The only "check" one can pass in days in the fingerprint.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/CS...s_121305_ST.pdf

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Receipts Issued from the California Service Center (CSC)

Some U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) customers may receive a receipt or transfer notice from the California Service Center (CSC) for cases they filed with local District Offices in the USCIS Western, Central, or Eastern Region or with the National Benefits Center. This is occurring because, in the context of backlog elimination, some cases that are unlikely to require an interview have been transferred from district offices with longer backlogs to the California Service Center where there is greater existing adjudications capacity. These transfer notices reflect receipt by the CSC of a case that has been transferred there to be adjudicated, rather than original receipt of the case by USCIS. For newly filed cases, customers may receive their first receipt notice from CSC, rather than the National Benefits Center or the District Office.

• Case types include the following:

• Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Resident or Adjust Status;

• Form I-130, Petition for Alien Relative; ? Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence;

• Form N-565, Application for Replacement of Citizenship Document; and

• Form N-600, Application for Certification of Citizenship.

For I-485, I-130, N-565, and N-600 cases, affected applicants will receive a notice from the CSC with a receipt number. This notice confirms that the case has been successfully entered into the electronic database. Please refer to the new CSC receipt number if you need to inquire about the case. For I-751s, customers will not receive a new receipt and may first learn of the transfer of their case through a Request for Evidence. While processing a relocated case, the CSC may determine that additional information or documentation is needed before a final decision can be made. USCIS would like to remind ALL applicants that it is very important to pay close attention to the return address noted on all requests for additional information or documentation, to ensure that the response is sent to the correct USCIS location. Approval notices will reflect the original filing (priority) date.

Please allow 180-days before inquiring in reference to the status of these cases. For additional information, contact the National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283.

edited to correct press release.

[LaL 418]

Maybe but maybe not, so you think they are going to transfer and not check background or name check before transfer? Does not make much sense, just extra work on them to then transfer case again, but it might be that way, hard to tell. I seriously doubt it. Whatever it is, there is a reason, who knows, but there is some sort of criteria that you do not know nor do I and there is no random reason for it, the USA Feds always operate for a reason.

FBI namecheck is ordered shortly after your receipt NOA. Ordered from MSC. So yes, It is ordered before transfer.

[zqt3344 21]

Not agreed, there could be other things they are looking at, I by no means think it means just because you clear FBI namecheck or background check that your case will get worked any faster after transfer or even transferred, just merely at least one of the requirements to get transferred, it is only part of it, USCIS will still be checking and verifying other documents that were submitted as part of application.

If people on the CSC transferee list cleared FBI namechecks in a week then no one would be waiting monts upon months.

Agreed. My husband was in namecheck for 9 months and his file was transferred to CSC. Other couples who were transferred were approved in a matter of weeks. From the same country too, so one can't say "oh it's because they're from this country or that".

There is no rhyme or reason for the transfers. Point blank. Like Becca said...that is all there is to it. It will drive you nuts to try and speculate and come up with a reason. Why worry about it?

[zqt3344 21]

Excuse me but just where did you get this, I never said it was not, did you?

Maybe but maybe not, so you think they are going to transfer and not check background or name check before transfer? Does not make much sense, just extra work on them to then transfer case again, but it might be that way, hard to tell. I seriously doubt it. Whatever it is, there is a reason, who knows, but there is some sort of criteria that you do not know nor do I and there is no random reason for it, the USA Feds always operate for a reason.

FBI namecheck is ordered shortly after your receipt NOA. Ordered from MSC. So yes, It is ordered before transfer.

[LaL 418]

Excuse me but just where did you get this, I never said it was not, did you?

Maybe but maybe not, so you think they are going to transfer and not check background or name check before transfer? Does not make much sense, just extra work on them to then transfer case again, but it might be that way, hard to tell. I seriously doubt it. Whatever it is, there is a reason, who knows, but there is some sort of criteria that you do not know nor do I and there is no random reason for it, the USA Feds always operate for a reason.

FBI namecheck is ordered shortly after your receipt NOA. Ordered from MSC. So yes, It is ordered before transfer.

Yes, I am saying it IS ordered from MSC regardless of its future path (to CSC or local office). Many of us who needed further information on our cases confirmed when the namechecks were ordered. For example - my NOA was 10/28/05 and the namecheck was ordered on 11/14/05.

I responded to you because this is wrong:

so you think they are going to transfer and not check background or name check before transfer

Edited January 22, 2008 by LaL

[rebeccajo 14]

zqt, there are boatloads of people who were transferred to California but they aren't approved yet because their FBI clearance isn't done. And they aren't just guessing about that - they've had elected reps check on their case status and been told the clearance is not complete.

Just to clear up that little fog you are in - there are TWO checks which happen. The first is fingerprints and that usually takes less than 24 hours. The second is FBI clearance and that takes as long as it takes - it's done when it's done.

I get a little tired of your conjecturing about stuff just because you think the Feds are all out to get us.

Edited January 22, 2008 by rebeccajo

[TracyTN 237]

zqt, there are boatloads of people who were transferred to California but they aren't approved yet because their FBI clearance isn't done. And they aren't just guessing about that - they've had elected reps check on their case status and been told the clearance is not complete.

Just to clear up that little fog you are in - there are TWO checks which happen. The first is fingerprints and that usually takes less than 24 hours. The second is FBI clearance and that takes as long as it takes - it's done when it's done.

I get a little tired of your conjecturing about stuff just because you think the Feds are all out to get us.

Ditto.

[zqt3344 21]

I never said it was not, I agreed with what you said. You must have misunderstood me.

Excuse me but just where did you get this, I never said it was not, did you?

Maybe but maybe not, so you think they are going to transfer and not check background or name check before transfer? Does not make much sense, just extra work on them to then transfer case again, but it might be that way, hard to tell. I seriously doubt it. Whatever it is, there is a reason, who knows, but there is some sort of criteria that you do not know nor do I and there is no random reason for it, the USA Feds always operate for a reason.

FBI namecheck is ordered shortly after your receipt NOA. Ordered from MSC. So yes, It is ordered before transfer.

Yes, I am saying it IS ordered from MSC regardless of its future path (to CSC or local office). Many of us who needed further information on our cases confirmed when the namechecks were ordered. For example - my NOA was 10/28/05 and the namecheck was ordered on 11/14/05.

I responded to you because this is wrong:

so you think they are going to transfer and not check background or name check before transfer

NO it does not mean it is a random pull! There is some sort of criteria to it. Nothing is random.

If it makes you feel any better, I agree with the K-1 assessment - K-1 are much more likely to be transferred, and on this board alone I've only seen one non-K1 (I don't really pay much attention to K-3, so not sure about that, so I'm referring to visitor, student, VWP, etc) transferred. The rest of us pretty much count on having an interview.

That's fine. All I'm saying there is something that determines applicants "that are unlikely to require an interview".

You've seen the evidence. What in your opinion would obviate that?

Because randomness doesn't make sense.

Then how else do you explain that some cases (after a transfer) DO get sent back for an interview? Doesn't that tell you the first selection is a random pull?

[rebeccajo 14]

NO it does not mean it is a random pull! There is some sort of criteria to it. Nothing is random.

Why not?

[zqt3344 21]

Why thank you for your knowledge RJ, why is it that you are an authority on this and you think only your opinion or theory, and it is a theory we all have here, for know one knows for certain what is going on exactly inside USCIS, to conjecture up some sort of theory or agenda of your own, which you cannot even prove or support at all no better than anyone else on here. Your opinion is no better than the rest of those I have seen posted on here, and as far as me being in a fog, you appear to be in one yourself, by my humble estimation after reading your posts.

So you think the US feds have no rhyme or reason for what they do, they are bumbling idiots just doing it at random, well you are entitled to that opinion but I do not aspire to it all.

By the way there are more than checks performed than the fingerprints and name checks. Oh and the name checks will go faster if it is in database already and not in some paper file in some local field office to be pulled and submitted, also if there is a match or a hit that has to be verified and cleared.

zqt, there are boatloads of people who were transferred to California but they aren't approved yet because their FBI clearance isn't done. And they aren't just guessing about that - they've had elected reps check on their case status and been told the clearance is not complete.

Just to clear up that little fog you are in - there are TWO checks which happen. The first is fingerprints and that usually takes less than 24 hours. The second is FBI clearance and that takes as long as it takes - it's done when it's done.

I get a little tired of your conjecturing about stuff just because you think the Feds are all out to get us.

[zqt3344 21]

Ok then prove it, why is it random? I have yet to hear a plausible reason from you as to why it is? If that is your opinion then fine, that is yours, but not everyone else's and does not mean it is the absolute law here, but it is only an opinion after all, which is what this thread is about anyway to speculate and ponder, which you are entitled to that opinion, so if you think so, but I do not, the US Feds do nothing on random, there is a reason, it is that just you and I do not know what it is.

NO it does not mean it is a random pull! There is some sort of criteria to it. Nothing is random.

Why not?