child support arrearages, back taxes and dui's k 1visa

[MissusM09 1]

i recently became engaged to the love of my life. and in the midst of my happiness i discovered that he has a few financial irregularities. my questions are quite simple. Before we send in the completed forms and such.

1. will the fact that my fiance has child support arrearages and owes some taxes affect our application for a k1 visa.

2. my fiance had his licence removed because of a dui incident, does this disqualify him as the us citizen for applying for a visa for me or does it have to be several similar incidents invoiving alcohol.

The child support payments are the subject of a soon to be court case, and are going to be adjusted to a more reasonable level. My fiance is far from being a deadbeat dad and wants to provide for his kids, the punitive nature of the child support system however has prevented him from doing so in many ways.

i understand that there should be in this case a co sponsor affidavit of financial support, my fiance ( who if you havent gathered is the us citizen) is above the poverty line. i do not have a great deal of money myself but as a lecturer i make a substantial amount of money.

i really need some advice on this to put my mind at rest. it seems as i put to bed one concern another rears its ugly head. i'm desperate.

its taken so long to meet someone that i want to spend my life with and i'm frustrated that it looks like it might be denied me.

damsel in distress

prima

[gwenneh 7]

1. no, this will not affect your application for a K-1. Owing back taxes might affect the affidavit of support, but if you have a co-sponsor that should put that to rest. Your income, as it is UK based, won't count; however, your assets and property can.

2. Your fiance's DUI will not have a bearing on your case, as he is the US citizen. Were it you, the beneficiary, it might be different.

[rebeccajo 14]

The punitive nature of the child support system? What punitive nature is that? That the non-custodial parent pay up?

Sorry, but I just don't get that. You should further familiarize yourself with the US Family Court system. If your fiance was ever in a position where the support was legitimately too much for him to handle, he could have taken that issue to the courts for re-evaluation before the situation became too far gone to create vast arrearages.

Taxes can also be paid in installments and after the annual tax deadline of April 15, if the proper paperwork is filled out.

I don't usually make these sort of statements, but you might want to think beyond the affidavit of support for your immigration. There may very well be mitigating circumstances for the state of your fiance's financial health. If so I apologize in advance. I think you owe it to yourself, and not to me or anyone else here, to fully and honestly evaluate what happened.

Edited January 21, 2008 by rebeccajo

[gwenneh 7]

The punitive nature of the child support system? What punitive nature is that? That the non-custodial parent pay up?

It can be pretty vicious, frankly. Speaking from close experience, I've seen some *very* unfair deals enacted under the name of "child support". It all depends on who has a better lawyer, mommy or daddy.

My ex's brother is currently getting reamed in the name of "child support", the situation is pretty dire, and he is ANYTHING but a deadbeat dad. I've had the "privilege" of being present at some of the court hearings (as ex's brother can no longer afford a car, gas, or insurance) and, frankly, it's a joke.

Re-evaluation? Total joke. He's been trying to get this re-evaluated for several years now, with no success - god knows he can't afford a lawyer better than the mother's (who isn't footing the bill for it, her parents are). He is working two to three jobs to meet the amount they require of him and has nothing - and I mean NOTHING - to live on afterwards. The court doesn't seem to be interested in the fact that this makes him unable to support himself at all, even though he lives with his blind and disabled dad (along with my ex, who works two jobs to pay for the both of *them*).

So yes, I think the OP could possibly be correct in that the system might have a bit of a punitive nature, and it's a slippery slope, too.

[MissusM09 1]

1. no, this will not affect your application for a K-1. Owing back taxes might affect the affidavit of support, but if you have a co-sponsor that should put that to rest. Your income, as it is UK based, won't count; however, your assets and property can.

2. Your fiance's DUI will not have a bearing on your case, as he is the US citizen. Were it you, the beneficiary, it might be different.

[MissusM09 1]

1. no, this will not affect your application for a K-1. Owing back taxes might affect the affidavit of support, but if you have a co-sponsor that should put that to rest. Your income, as it is UK based, won't count; however, your assets and property can.

2. Your fiance's DUI will not have a bearing on your case, as he is the US citizen. Were it you, the beneficiary, it might be different.

thanks for your reply, lol. i think i was a bit hasty yesterday. i pretty much found out that my fiance does not have a dui at all, something different. and as to the person who made the comment that i need to find out more about the child support system, you need to check your judgemental **** at the door. i am far from stupid and i am quite aware of the situation regarding his current child support situation. the system is punitive because it assumes guilt, and places that upon the father without negotiation. as i said we in the midst of clearing up the issues regarding this.rather than you assuming from the little that i posted on here, maybe you could have asked. huh.

still thanks for the posts i reply appreciate it all. i'm just excited about us. its all back on track. i will keep you posted

xxxx

hope alive

[MissusM09 1]

1. no, this will not affect your application for a K-1. Owing back taxes might affect the affidavit of support, but if you have a co-sponsor that should put that to rest. Your income, as it is UK based, won't count; however, your assets and property can.

2. Your fiance's DUI will not have a bearing on your case, as he is the US citizen. Were it you, the beneficiary, it might be different.

thanks for your reply, lol. i think i was a bit hasty yesterday. i pretty much found out that my fiance does not have a dui at all, something different. and as to the person who made the comment that i need to find out more about the child support system, you need to check your judgemental **** at the door. i am far from stupid and i am quite aware of the situation regarding his current child support situation. the system is punitive because it assumes guilt, and places that upon the father without negotiation. as i said we in the midst of clearing up the issues regarding this.rather than you assuming from the little that i posted on here, maybe you could have asked. huh.

still thanks for the posts i reply appreciate it all. i'm just excited about us. its all back on track. i will keep you posted

xxxx

hope alive

er whats or who is "the OP". is that some short hand for new post ......... should i be offended hahahah

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

Very true words !

I, personally, know a man living out of his van in a storage building on his employer's property. After his child support is taken from his check, he has enough left over for food and nothing for a place to live. All they care about it his "responsibilty" to his four children, screw basic life for him.

In my own situation, my former wife fills her closet with new shoes, gets $100 haircuts and massages, while my children grow out of their own clothes. Child support, my rear.

Child support is mostly fun money for many women and a way for the government to take more money for themselves.

The punitive nature of the child support system? What punitive nature is that? That the non-custodial parent pay up?

It can be pretty vicious, frankly. Speaking from close experience, I've seen some *very* unfair deals enacted under the name of "child support". It all depends on who has a better lawyer, mommy or daddy.

My ex's brother is currently getting reamed in the name of "child support", the situation is pretty dire, and he is ANYTHING but a deadbeat dad. I've had the "privilege" of being present at some of the court hearings (as ex's brother can no longer afford a car, gas, or insurance) and, frankly, it's a joke.

Re-evaluation? Total joke. He's been trying to get this re-evaluated for several years now, with no success - god knows he can't afford a lawyer better than the mother's (who isn't footing the bill for it, her parents are). He is working two to three jobs to meet the amount they require of him and has nothing - and I mean NOTHING - to live on afterwards. The court doesn't seem to be interested in the fact that this makes him unable to support himself at all, even though he lives with his blind and disabled dad (along with my ex, who works two jobs to pay for the both of *them*).

So yes, I think the OP could possibly be correct in that the system might have a bit of a punitive nature, and it's a slippery slope, too.

[MissusM09 1]

The punitive nature of the child support system? What punitive nature is that? That the non-custodial parent pay up?

Sorry, but I just don't get that. You should further familiarize yourself with the US Family Court system. If your fiance was ever in a position where the support was legitimately too much for him to handle, he could have taken that issue to the courts for re-evaluation before the situation became too far gone to create vast arrearages.

Taxes can also be paid in installments and after the annual tax deadline of April 15, if the proper paperwork is filled out.

I don't usually make these sort of statements, but you might want to think beyond the affidavit of support for your immigration. There may very well be mitigating circumstances for the state of your fiance's financial health. If so I apologize in advance. I think you owe it to yourself, and not to me or anyone else here, to fully and honestly evaluate what happened.

i answered your post at about 2 am in the morning and looking back on it i think i was a bit harsh to ya. i am up till those hours because i just got back last thursday and i'm still on EST. you are of course being very polite with what you say and i dont think you were trying to be mean. i personally am not the best for wear financially and i have made many mistakes, many of them when i was a student and i thought that being older would never happen to me. i am fully caught up on the reasons and the heretofores regarding the state of my partners finances, but i do see how looking at what i said it would cause someone however aggravatingly to hear alarm bells.

second chances is what life is all about, if someone looked at my finances from an impartial and uninvolved point of view i'm sure it would raise a similar response.

nonetheless i thank you for your post, all insight is greatly appreciated

prima

[MissusM09 1]

Very true words !

I, personally, know a man living out of his van in a storage building on his employer's property. After his child support is taken from his check, he has enough left over for food and nothing for a place to live. All they care about it his "responsibilty" to his four children, screw basic life for him.

In my own situation, my former wife fills her closet with new shoes, gets $100 haircuts and massages, while my children grow out of their own clothes. Child support, my rear.

Child support is mostly fun money for many women and a way for the government to take more money for themselves.

The punitive nature of the child support system? What punitive nature is that? That the non-custodial parent pay up?

It can be pretty vicious, frankly. Speaking from close experience, I've seen some *very* unfair deals enacted under the name of "child support". It all depends on who has a better lawyer, mommy or daddy.

My ex's brother is currently getting reamed in the name of "child support", the situation is pretty dire, and he is ANYTHING but a deadbeat dad. I've had the "privilege" of being present at some of the court hearings (as ex's brother can no longer afford a car, gas, or insurance) and, frankly, it's a joke.

Re-evaluation? Total joke. He's been trying to get this re-evaluated for several years now, with no success - god knows he can't afford a lawyer better than the mother's (who isn't footing the bill for it, her parents are). He is working two to three jobs to meet the amount they require of him and has nothing - and I mean NOTHING - to live on afterwards. The court doesn't seem to be interested in the fact that this makes him unable to support himself at all, even though he lives with his blind and disabled dad (along with my ex, who works two jobs to pay for the both of *them*).

So yes, I think the OP could possibly be correct in that the system might have a bit of a punitive nature, and it's a slippery slope, too.

this is what i was talking about, at the time of the child support being levied upon my partner he actually had the custody of his children, and he has always worked. the mother on the other hand refused to work and went on welfare. He actually left the army to look after his kids because she couldn't. the system assumes he wasnt looking after his children but he was. now it takes half his pay no matter what job he does and none of it is recieved by his children. it makes me mad as hell to see someone who actually wants to be a father prevented being one. there are real deadbeat dads out there. i know of many. But he isnt one. this political bs that has the system so caught up with catching absentee dads should be re evaluated and made more equitable. still i'm praying and hoping that this will be the year to end all this and to make a full recovery from what has been a harrowing time for him and his children.

[rebeccajo 14]

The punitive nature of the child support system? What punitive nature is that? That the non-custodial parent pay up?

Sorry, but I just don't get that. You should further familiarize yourself with the US Family Court system. If your fiance was ever in a position where the support was legitimately too much for him to handle, he could have taken that issue to the courts for re-evaluation before the situation became too far gone to create vast arrearages.

Taxes can also be paid in installments and after the annual tax deadline of April 15, if the proper paperwork is filled out.

I don't usually make these sort of statements, but you might want to think beyond the affidavit of support for your immigration. There may very well be mitigating circumstances for the state of your fiance's financial health. If so I apologize in advance. I think you owe it to yourself, and not to me or anyone else here, to fully and honestly evaluate what happened.

i answered your post at about 2 am in the morning and looking back on it i think i was a bit harsh to ya. i am up till those hours because i just got back last thursday and i'm still on EST. you are of course being very polite with what you say and i dont think you were trying to be mean. i personally am not the best for wear financially and i have made many mistakes, many of them when i was a student and i thought that being older would never happen to me. i am fully caught up on the reasons and the heretofores regarding the state of my partners finances, but i do see how looking at what i said it would cause someone however aggravatingly to hear alarm bells.

second chances is what life is all about, if someone looked at my finances from an impartial and uninvolved point of view i'm sure it would raise a similar response.

nonetheless i thank you for your post, all insight is greatly appreciated

prima

I appreaciate that. Thanks. My concern is for you.

Child support is mostly fun money for many women and a way for the government to take more money for themselves.

Besides the fact that this is a sexist statement, it makes no sense. Child support is not even taxable, so the government certainly isn't 'taking from it'.

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

Oh, really-!!! Would you like to see my support agreement? The government receives a nice percentage, in the form of an administrative fee, each and every time child support is stripped out of my check. How is that not taking for themselves? Obviously the more they levy, the more they line their own pockets.

As for sexist remark, I call the child support system as I see it, a huge sexist concept.

The punitive nature of the child support system? What punitive nature is that? That the non-custodial parent pay up?

Sorry, but I just don't get that. You should further familiarize yourself with the US Family Court system. If your fiance was ever in a position where the support was legitimately too much for him to handle, he could have taken that issue to the courts for re-evaluation before the situation became too far gone to create vast arrearages.

Taxes can also be paid in installments and after the annual tax deadline of April 15, if the proper paperwork is filled out.

I don't usually make these sort of statements, but you might want to think beyond the affidavit of support for your immigration. There may very well be mitigating circumstances for the state of your fiance's financial health. If so I apologize in advance. I think you owe it to yourself, and not to me or anyone else here, to fully and honestly evaluate what happened.

i answered your post at about 2 am in the morning and looking back on it i think i was a bit harsh to ya. i am up till those hours because i just got back last thursday and i'm still on EST. you are of course being very polite with what you say and i dont think you were trying to be mean. i personally am not the best for wear financially and i have made many mistakes, many of them when i was a student and i thought that being older would never happen to me. i am fully caught up on the reasons and the heretofores regarding the state of my partners finances, but i do see how looking at what i said it would cause someone however aggravatingly to hear alarm bells.

second chances is what life is all about, if someone looked at my finances from an impartial and uninvolved point of view i'm sure it would raise a similar response.

nonetheless i thank you for your post, all insight is greatly appreciated

prima

I appreaciate that. Thanks. My concern is for you.

Child support is mostly fun money for many women and a way for the government to take more money for themselves.

Besides the fact that this is a sexist statement, it makes no sense. Child support is not even taxable, so the government certainly isn't 'taking from it'.

Edited January 22, 2008 by Kazan' Tiger

[*JG* 2]

Oh, really-!!! Would you like to see my support agreement? The government receives a nice percentage, in the form of an administrative fee, each and every time child support is stripped out of my check. How is that not taking for themselves? Obviously the more they levy, the more they line their own pockets.

As for sexist remark, I call the child support system as I see it, a huge sexist concept.

The punitive nature of the child support system? What punitive nature is that? That the non-custodial parent pay up?

Sorry, but I just don't get that. You should further familiarize yourself with the US Family Court system. If your fiance was ever in a position where the support was legitimately too much for him to handle, he could have taken that issue to the courts for re-evaluation before the situation became too far gone to create vast arrearages.

Taxes can also be paid in installments and after the annual tax deadline of April 15, if the proper paperwork is filled out.

I don't usually make these sort of statements, but you might want to think beyond the affidavit of support for your immigration. There may very well be mitigating circumstances for the state of your fiance's financial health. If so I apologize in advance. I think you owe it to yourself, and not to me or anyone else here, to fully and honestly evaluate what happened.

i answered your post at about 2 am in the morning and looking back on it i think i was a bit harsh to ya. i am up till those hours because i just got back last thursday and i'm still on EST. you are of course being very polite with what you say and i dont think you were trying to be mean. i personally am not the best for wear financially and i have made many mistakes, many of them when i was a student and i thought that being older would never happen to me. i am fully caught up on the reasons and the heretofores regarding the state of my partners finances, but i do see how looking at what i said it would cause someone however aggravatingly to hear alarm bells.

second chances is what life is all about, if someone looked at my finances from an impartial and uninvolved point of view i'm sure it would raise a similar response.

nonetheless i thank you for your post, all insight is greatly appreciated

prima

I appreaciate that. Thanks. My concern is for you.

Child support is mostly fun money for many women and a way for the government to take more money for themselves.

Besides the fact that this is a sexist statement, it makes no sense. Child support is not even taxable, so the government certainly isn't 'taking from it'.

Well, I hate to tell you this; but men in single parent households get child support as well.

It's also not required to go through the governement channels to deduct it. You can work out details with the other parent to pay amongst yourselves.

[rebeccajo 14]

Oh, really-!!! Would you like to see my support agreement? The government receives a nice percentage, in the form of an administrative fee, each and every time child support is stripped out of my check. How is that not taking for themselves? Obviously the more they levy, the more they line their own pockets.

As for sexist remark, I call the child support system as I see it, a huge sexist concept.

OMG.

Tell that to your kids. I bet they'll appreciate it.

Why is the notion of support such a big damn deal with MEN? Oh, wait a minute - I think I get it. Since you only contributed sperm to the creation of the child, you then feel you no other obligation beyond that point? Like typically you might have wasted it going down the shower drain?

My son knows his father always paid his support. He also knows how his dad wouldn't pay for one other damn thing beyond that because his father constantly told us that was 'plenty' to pay. Your kids REMEMBER what you say to them - how they see you act and behave towards them after the court has made mandates. When a child feels their love alone - their mere existence - isn't worthy of a few bucks - well no wonder they so often turn away from the person paying the support who also has a chip on their shoulder.

Boo hoo you have to pay child support. And an 'administrative fee' too. You make me want to cry rivers for you.

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

Rare, very rare. I know not one. And I know plenty of divorced people.

Well, I hate to tell you this; but men in single parent households get child support as well.

Possible? of course, but why do it when it does not benefit you. It's not my former wife that pays the government tribute, it's me. I don't know many couples that split in such good terms they are willing to trust each other in "pay direct" arrangement.

It's also not required to go through the governement channels to deduct it. You can work out details with the other parent to pay amongst yourselves.