fake marriage question

[anastasia_beaverhausen 0]

Hello. A friend of my husband's asked him to be witness at his marriage, my husband went, and couple of days later we found out it was a fake marriage just for greencard thing. Now, the guy has called my husband to ask him for a recommendation letter to send to immigration, he says its mandatory since my husband was witness, and this guy also told him that he has to give him a copy of his citizenship certificate too. I told my husband not to get involved in any of this anymore, what if t hey catch this guy and my husband's name is on that letter? that guy has had problems with immigration before and I'm sure it's all in his records. My husband has been friends with him for a long time and doesnt want any problems with him, how can we handle this situation?

[YuAndDan 153]

Hello. A friend of my husband's asked him to be witness at his marriage, my husband went, and couple of days later we found out it was a fake marriage just for greencard thing. Now, the guy has called my husband to ask him for a recommendation letter to send to immigration, he says its mandatory since my husband was witness, and this guy also told him that he has to give him a copy of his citizenship certificate too. I told my husband not to get involved in any of this anymore, what if t hey catch this guy and my husband's name is on that letter? that guy has had problems with immigration before and I'm sure it's all in his records. My husband has been friends with him for a long time and doesnt want any problems with him, how can we handle this situation?

NO WAY is it mandatory, I would just say "I will have to respectfully decline".

[~Laura and Nick~ 5]

NO WAY is it mandatory, I would just say "I will have to respectfully decline".

I agree.

Don't do it.

[Donna A 4]

is a recomendation letter something new? i cant even tell u who witnessed our marriege cuz we just grabbed a couple people in the court house. no letter was needed at that time.

[gwenneh 7]

It's certainly not mandatory for your husband to be one of the people to provide an affidavit of a bona fide marriage just because he was a witness.

is a recommendation letter something new? i cant even tell u who witnessed our marriage cuz we just grabbed a couple people in the court house. no letter was needed at that time.

The affidavits of a bona fide marriage is something new being required with I-130's, yes. I think it started with the new forms issued in July.

[kim&james 0]

I would also decline and most certainly do not give this scammer anything like his own citizenship certs.

However, tell your friend to be honest and say that it is not worthwhile to become involved in immigration fraud. If he loses a friend so be it... but stay away from that mess with a barge pole.

[diadromous mermaid 36]

It's certainly not mandatory for your husband to be one of the people to provide an affidavit of a bona fide marriage just because he was a witness.

is a recommendation letter something new? i cant even tell u who witnessed our marriage cuz we just grabbed a couple people in the court house. no letter was needed at that time.

The affidavits of a bona fide marriage is something new being required with I-130's, yes. I think it started with the new forms issued in July.

Hmm. I think the affidavits requested with an I-130 are only necessary if a document of an event, such as a marriage, is not available. In the case that is being discussed here, why would there be no marriage certificate?

[gwenneh 7]

No, they are required in addition to the marriage certificate. In July, London started chucking out RFE's left, right, and centre for the missing information and there are a few on this board (Poiteen springs to mind) that have had their approvals delayed because of this.

NOTE: In addition to the required documentation listed

above, you should submit one or more of the following

types of documentation that may evidence that bona fides

of your marriage:

E. Documentation showing joint ownership or property;

or

F. A lease showing joint tenancy of a common residence;

or

G. Documentation showing co-mingling of financial

resources; or

H. Birth certificate(s) of child(ren) born to you, the

petitioner, and your spouse together; or

I. Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties having

personal knowledge of the bona fides of the marital

relationship (Each affidavit must contain the full name

and address, date and place of birth of the person

making the affidavit, his or her relationship to the

petitioner of beneficiary, if any, and complete

information and details explaining how the person

acquired his or her knowledge of your marriage); or

J. Any other relevant documentation to establish that

there is an ongoing marital union.

this is in addition to the marriage certificate, which is the first thing that is required, and has been in place only since July.

[anastasia_beaverhausen 0]

Thank you all for your posts, i will make sure that my husband reads this thread tonight. It makes no sense to me that his friend wants to put him in this situation.

[FEW 0]

Your husband's friend is asking him to do knowingly state something that's wrong (and potentially illegal). If his friend has already had immigration trouble before, I would expect that his documents will be closely scrutinized. Would your husband do other illegal things for this person? Perhaps making it clear to him that it's something that will likely make his life difficult in the future can help him to make the right choice.

One thing is for sure: It's by no means mandatory for your husband to make false statements, regardless of what his friend wants. I know how hard it is for me to get my green card. There isn't anything that would make me risk it afterwards.

Good luck!

[Marilyn. 340]

No, they are required in addition to the marriage certificate. In July, London started chucking out RFE's left, right, and centre for the missing information and there are a few on this board (Poiteen springs to mind) that have had their approvals delayed because of this.

NOTE: In addition to the required documentation listed

above, you should submit one or more of the following

types of documentation that may evidence that bona fides

of your marriage:

E. Documentation showing joint ownership or property;

or

F. A lease showing joint tenancy of a common residence;

or

G. Documentation showing co-mingling of financial

resources; or

H. Birth certificate(s) of child(ren) born to you, the

petitioner, and your spouse together; or

I. Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties having

personal knowledge of the bona fides of the marital

relationship (Each affidavit must contain the full name

and address, date and place of birth of the person

making the affidavit, his or her relationship to the

petitioner of beneficiary, if any, and complete

information and details explaining how the person

acquired his or her knowledge of your marriage); or

J. Any other relevant documentation to establish that

there is an ongoing marital union.

this is in addition to the marriage certificate, which is the first thing that is required, and has been in place only since July.

well to be fair.. you don't need to send in affidavits if you send in some of the other examples...

[diadromous mermaid 36]

No, they are required in addition to the marriage certificate. In July, London started chucking out RFE's left, right, and centre for the missing information and there are a few on this board (Poiteen springs to mind) that have had their approvals delayed because of this.

NOTE: In addition to the required documentation listed

above, you should submit one or more of the following

types of documentation that may evidence that bona fides

of your marriage:

E. Documentation showing joint ownership or property;

or

F. A lease showing joint tenancy of a common residence;

or

G. Documentation showing co-mingling of financial

resources; or

H. Birth certificate(s) of child(ren) born to you, the

petitioner, and your spouse together; or

I. Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties having

personal knowledge of the bona fides of the marital

relationship (Each affidavit must contain the full name

and address, date and place of birth of the person

making the affidavit, his or her relationship to the

petitioner of beneficiary, if any, and complete

information and details explaining how the person

acquired his or her knowledge of your marriage); or

J. Any other relevant documentation to establish that

there is an ongoing marital union.

this is in addition to the marriage certificate, which is the first thing that is required, and has been in place only since July.

Exactly. Note, the bolded text, "one or more", not all of the list.

[Jason-Sasha 1]

This doesnt sound like a very good friend. maybe a long friend, but certainly not a considerate or respectful friend. basically asking your husband to lie. That kind of friend is so not worth the jail time and/or fines. Hell no.

[2newshoes2 0]

It sounds like the friend is just asking for a letter saying that your husband was present at the wedding. He can just state the facts as they happened. He was asked to be a witness and he attended the wedding. There is nothing illegal about his stating the facts as they happened.

2NS

[sparkofcreation 0]

It sounds like the friend is just asking for a letter saying that your husband was present at the wedding. He can just state the facts as they happened. He was asked to be a witness and he attended the wedding. There is nothing illegal about his stating the facts as they happened.

2NS

Not necessarily illegal (though it could be), but I would say it's certainly immoral for the husband to do so knowing that the friend is planning to submit that letter as evidence in order to commit immigration fraud.