POSSIBLE REASONS FOR AP DELAYS...

[sarah and hicham 3]

Dont I have the right as a US Citizen to marry whom I choose...and the consequences are mine to take? Who asked if I wanted protected from my own decisions? Isnt their job just to ensure we are eligible for visa...and that we have no security issues? How can anyone decide what is real and what isn't real? To decide what is fraud and what isnt?

But your decision and your marriage don't affect only you and your partner when U.S. immigration is involved. If they did not take measures to prevent fraud, how many people would be using marriage scams to get into the country? I don't know about you, but I don't want some shyster being able to come over here when honest, hard-working people aren't able to get visas because they don't have an eligible visa category and they're not willing to defraud in order to come here.

How do you determine...who is real and who isn't...how do you protect the innocent..maybe its not an upfront issue..but after the visa issue....say...if divorced...they are deported...maybe they will think twice before trying the fraud to begin with?? Knowing that unless they actually make it to become a citizen..they know they are here....to be married...unless they can prove extenuating circumstances...people make it through on fraud...and many innocents are penalized with denials...sowhat is the answer???

I knew this would spar a bit of lively debate...lol...i was bored...

Jenn is absolutely right. The Consulates do their best to try to protect American citizens and petitioners by determining which cases are fraud and which aren't. I cannot imagine how tough their job must be but obviously they have a set of standards, red flags, guidelines, whatever you want to call it to help them figure out if a relationship is real or not. Just because the woman thinks that she is petitioning her true love doesn't mean it's the case- I commend the Consulates for doing their jobs and making the decisions they make. They are not trying to ruin lives.

[amrssnowangel 0]

So basically...we agree...the job of the embassy is important...that they do their best to provide security and fairness....

i wasnt stating my opinions per se...just thought provoking questions....

Out of all the forums I've been reading for the last 7 months...this MENA one is the most high spirited one there is I do believe.... nice to be a part...

[Aymerlu 3]

Dont I have the right as a US Citizen to marry whom I choose...and the consequences are mine to take? Who asked if I wanted protected from my own decisions? Isnt their job just to ensure we are eligible for visa...and that we have no security issues? How can anyone decide what is real and what isn't real? To decide what is fraud and what isnt?

But your decision and your marriage don't affect only you and your partner when U.S. immigration is involved. If they did not take measures to prevent fraud, how many people would be using marriage scams to get into the country? I don't know about you, but I don't want some shyster being able to come over here when honest, hard-working people aren't able to get visas because they don't have an eligible visa category and they're not willing to defraud in order to come here.

How do you determine...who is real and who isn't...how do you protect the innocent..maybe its not an upfront issue..but after the visa issue....say...if divorced...they are deported...maybe they will think twice before trying the fraud to begin with?? Knowing that unless they actually make it to become a citizen..they know they are here....to be married...unless they can prove extenuating circumstances...people make it through on fraud...and many innocents are penalized with denials...sowhat is the answer???

I knew this would spar a bit of lively debate...lol...i was bored...

Jenn is absolutely right. The Consulates do their best to try to protect American citizens and petitioners by determining which cases are fraud and which aren't. I cannot imagine how tough their job must be but obviously they have a set of standards, red flags, guidelines, whatever you want to call it to help them figure out if a relationship is real or not. Just because the woman thinks that she is petitioning her true love doesn't mean it's the case- I commend the Consulates for doing their jobs and making the decisions they make. They are not trying to ruin lives.

Yeah, but how many fraudulent marriages are granted their visa anyway? I've personally never seen Cairo not issue a visa, but I've sure seen a lot of bad apples get their visa. Anyone with a SO from Egypt has to admit that Egypt is a high fraud country and this is why these checks are being done. Everyone thinks their visa should be issued quickly because of one reason or another (because I thought the same thing ), but I am glad they do the checks they do. Should their be a quicker way heck yeah, but with the way things are, is there really anything that can be done about it?

[Ahmed & Sue 0]

We all went into this with our eyes wide open. Being in the forum here, we see the waiting times and possible consequences. When we filed we took a risk. Do we have a right to be upset because we have to wait longer than we think is appropriate? Maybe. However, in my opinion, I would rather wait the time to clear security and know I am not helping someone with criminal or terrorist intentions get into the US. My inability to be patient should not corrupt the screening process we have for the protection of US citizens. Could it be that I make a lousy choice and bring someone in that just wants a green card? That is a possibility. However, that was my lousy choice, not the governments. I am the one that suffers the consequences. So I have to wait months or years to do it...........gives me something to think about during the process and lets me get to know him better.

Only my opinion.

Thanks for the info.

Sue

[Aymerlu 3]

We all went into this with our eyes wide open. Being in the forum here, we see the waiting times and possible consequences. When we filed we took a risk. Do we have a right to be upset because we have to wait longer than we think is appropriate? Maybe. However, in my opinion, I would rather wait the time to clear security and know I am not helping someone with criminal or terrorist intentions get into the US. My inability to be patient should not corrupt the screening process we have for the protection of US citizens. Could it be that I make a lousy choice and bring someone in that just wants a green card? That is a possibility. However, that was my lousy choice, not the governments. I am the one that suffers the consequences. So I have to wait months or years to do it...........gives me something to think about during the process and lets me get to know him better.

Only my opinion.

Thanks for the info.

Sue

Well said Sue!

[sarah and hicham 3]

Another thing to consider is: you're in a long distance relationship with your SO who must go through the procedures to come to the US to be with you- didn't you think about that and consider how difficult it will most likely be before you filed your petition? I just don't see how far the complaining is going to get anyone. It always comes back to the same thing that we have no idea why Cairo is slow and we probably will never be able to pinpoint the issues and why AP takes so long. No one here was forced to petition for their SO- it's a choice that we all made and we should be able to handle the consequences. They'll get here eventually.

Good luck!

[amrssnowangel 0]

Another thing to consider is: you're in a long distance relationship with your SO who must go through the procedures to come to the US to be with you- didn't you think about that and consider how difficult it will most likely be before you filed your petition? I just don't see how far the complaining is going to get anyone. It always comes back to the same thing that we have no idea why Cairo is slow and we probably will never be able to pinpoint the issues and why AP takes so long. No one here was forced to petition for their SO- it's a choice that we all made and we should be able to handle the consequences. They'll get here eventually.

Good luck!

LOL...I wasn't complaining....I was throwing out statements for debate...wow..I knew what I got into the minute I agreed to marry him. I just posted info...hoping it would help someone...the comments were meant to get a debate going...NOT my own complaints of time waited...my goodness...we've barely just begun... Personally Im ready for the long haul...and I understand what the process is..and WHY i may be held up.... I never said my statments were my opinions...just something to get a topic going for debate...I DO see others complaining...THATS why I wrote it....

[allousa 1]

I absolutely agree with the fact that there needs to be security checks and heavy inspection when it comes to filing for Visas. What I DO have a problem with, as in our case, when these government offices LOSE documents that you KNOW they have because you have copies of EXACTLY what was given them and they still say they are missing!!! You are at their mercy and must spend your money and time to get duplicate originals of documents that they have misplaced!

Yes, there have been many threads about this issue. And it's hard, dayum hard going through AP. Hicham and I suffered a year and two months in AP! I definitely do not think that these cases are purposely or maliciously delayed. It's hard to not see that when you are so far apart from your SO.

I think the NUMBER ONE reason that these applications are delayed and sit for months is because the system itself is archaic, broken, horribly understaffed and with little oversight. We are smaller than David going up against Goliath! BUT, it's the burden one has to bear for marrying a non-USC.

Jeez, I wish there was this kind of system for just marrying a regular USC....might have saved me from my first marriage!!!!!

[amrssnowangel 0]

I absolutely agree with the fact that there needs to be security checks and heavy inspection when it comes to filing for Visas. What I DO have a problem with, as in our case, when these government offices LOSE documents that you KNOW they have because you have copies of EXACTLY what was given them and they still say they are missing!!! You are at their mercy and must spend your money and time to get duplicate originals of documents that they have misplaced!

Yes, there have been many threads about this issue. And it's hard, dayum hard going through AP. Hicham and I suffered a year and two months in AP! I definitely do not think that these cases are purposely or maliciously delayed. It's hard to not see that when you are so far apart from your SO.

I think the NUMBER ONE reason that these applications are delayed and sit for months is because the system itself is archaic, broken, horribly understaffed and with little oversight. We are smaller than David going up against Goliath! BUT, it's the burden one has to bear for marrying a non-USC.

Jeez, I wish there was this kind of system for just marrying a regular USC....might have saved me from my first marriage!!!!!

LOL I agree....wow..its harder to marry in Egypt than USA....Easier to divorce....May have saved me to....

[Aymerlu 3]

Jeez, I wish there was this kind of system for just marrying a regular USC....might have saved me from my first marriage!!!!!

LOL! I say the same thing all the time!