WE SURE HAVE COME A LONG WAY!

[GaryC 7]

It's not a cure all but it does deal with the normal adolecent misbehavour problems. Of course there are exceptions. But the threat of a public spanking was usually enough to get me to behave.

Were you a problem child?

Not overly. But I had my moments.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It's not a cure all but it does deal with the normal adolecent misbehavour problems. Of course there are exceptions. But the threat of a public spanking was usually enough to get me to behave.

Were you a problem child?

Not overly. But I had my moments.

I was well behaved and my parents rarely ever spanked me. I never saw my dad raise a hand to my mom and although they argued in front of us kids, they were always respectful towards each other. IMO, that goes a long way in raising well behaved children.

[GaryC 7]

It's not a cure all but it does deal with the normal adolecent misbehavour problems. Of course there are exceptions. But the threat of a public spanking was usually enough to get me to behave.

Were you a problem child?

Not overly. But I had my moments.

I was well behaved and my parents rarely ever spanked me. I never saw my dad raise a hand to my mom and although they argued in front of us kids, they were always respectful towards each other. IMO, that goes a long way in raising well behaved children.

I never saw my parents even argue. They had a true romantic marriage. There were 3 of us boys. Each 2 years apart. Dad sometimes had an assembly line belt session we were so bad. But all three of us grew up with respect for our parents and a sense of responsibility. I fault them for nothing, in fact I owe them for everything.

[Enlighten one :) 5]

YOU WANT SOMETHING TO CRY ABOUT? BECAUSE I'LL GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO CRY ABOUT.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I never saw my parents even argue. They had a true romantic marriage. There were 3 of us boys. Each 2 years apart. Dad sometimes had an assembly line belt session we were so bad. But all three of us grew up with respect for our parents and a sense of responsibility. I fault them for nothing, in fact I owe them for everything.

My Dad said the same thing about his parents (my grandparents) but later admitted that it was probably not a good thing. Arguments are inevitable...I just don't see how any couple could never argue. No two people are going to see eye-to-eye on everything. But there are good ways to argue and bad ways.

As for kid's behaving badly, I really think it stems from something and figuring out where it's coming from is how best to stop the behavior.

I know I'm almost polar opposite to Jinky and her upbringing though. Her Dad was quite the punisher, but IMO, it wasn't necessary. Jinky can be that way with Job, but I just can't bring myself to even spank him...yet. LOL...he told me once that if I spank him, I'm going to just end up crying....hahaha. Kid's are very perceptive.

[GaryC 7]

I never saw my parents even argue. They had a true romantic marriage. There were 3 of us boys. Each 2 years apart. Dad sometimes had an assembly line belt session we were so bad. But all three of us grew up with respect for our parents and a sense of responsibility. I fault them for nothing, in fact I owe them for everything.

My Dad said the same thing about his parents (my grandparents) but later admitted that it was probably not a good thing. Arguments are inevitable...I just don't see how any couple could never argue. No two people are going to see eye-to-eye on everything. But there are good ways to argue and bad ways.

As for kid's behaving badly, I really think it stems from something and figuring out where it's coming from is how best to stop the behavior.

I know I'm almost polar opposite to Jinky and her upbringing though. Her Dad was quite the punisher, but IMO, it wasn't necessary. Jinky can be that way with Job, but I just can't bring myself to even spank him...yet. LOL...he told me once that if I spank him, I'm going to just end up crying....hahaha. Kid's are very perceptive.

I am sure my parents had disputes, they just didn't do it in front of us. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in beatings to enforce order but I do think a belt across the butt will cure a back talking brat. You have to understand where I come from. My family is the mid-west farmer types. Hard work and respect is the order of the day. Any deviation from that results in some kind of repremand. Looking back on my childhood I don't think I was ever abused and I think I turned out pretty well.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It always comes down to corporal punishment doesn't it.... Sheesh.

Solving all your problems with your fists. Priceless.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I am sure my parents had disputes, they just didn't do it in front of us. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in beatings to enforce order but I do think a belt across the butt will cure a back talking brat. You have to understand where I come from. My family is the mid-west farmer types. Hard work and respect is the order of the day. Any deviation from that results in some kind of repremand. Looking back on my childhood I don't think I was ever abused and I think I turned out pretty well.

I believe you. My mother was born and raised in a small town in Texas (Mertzin I believe), and my father grew up in a tiny town along the Arizona/Mexico border, called Sassabee. Even I grew up in what started out as a rural farming town of Gilbert, AZ.

Instilling good values in children can happen with the minimal amount of spanking, and I do believe that spanking, under the right circumstances, is appropriate. My point is that nowadays, we are more knowledgeable about more effective ways in modifying a child's behavior. If a child has lousy parents, no amount of spanking from them is going to fix their bad behavior.

Edited January 16, 2008 by Mister Fancypants

[GaryC 7]

It always comes down to corporal punishment doesn't it.... Sheesh.

Solving all your problems with your fists. Priceless.

My father never used his fists. And he didn't use corporal punishment to solve all the problems. But when a good spanking was called for he used that option.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It always comes down to corporal punishment doesn't it.... Sheesh.

Solving all your problems with your fists. Priceless.

My father never used his fists. And he didn't use corporal punishment to solve all the problems. But when a good spanking was called for he used that option.

Oddly enough I have less of a problem with parents using it than teachers and other adult authority figures. There certainly is a problem of PC overreaction that ties teachers hands - but there are real cases of abuse underlying it.

[GaryC 7]

I am sure my parents had disputes, they just didn't do it in front of us. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in beatings to enforce order but I do think a belt across the butt will cure a back talking brat. You have to understand where I come from. My family is the mid-west farmer types. Hard work and respect is the order of the day. Any deviation from that results in some kind of repremand. Looking back on my childhood I don't think I was ever abused and I think I turned out pretty well.

I believe you. My mother was born and raised in a small town in Texas (Mertzin I believe), and my father grew up in a tiny town along the Arizona/Mexico border, called Sassabee. Even I grew up in what started out as a rural farming town of Gilbert, AZ.

Instilling good values in children can happen with the minimal amount of spanking, and I do believe that spanking, under the right circumstances, is appropriate. My point is that nowadays, we are more knowledgeable about more effective ways in modifying a child's behavior. If a child has lousy parents, no amount of spanking from them is going to fix their bad behavior.

The option of corporal punishment has been taken away all together today. That is a mistake. A spanking isn't abuse IMO. There were a lot less problems in schools 35 years ago. I am not saying it's all because of the new way of punishment but it is at least a part of it. Kids need to learn that actions have consequences. Until they reach a certain age reasoning with them is not effective. A good spanking is a valid tool for an disrespectful outburst.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Out of curiosity does anyone know what the general standard level of education was 35 years ago? Was it lower or higher than it is today?

[Alex+R 0]

Out of curiosity does anyone know what the general standard level of education was 35 years ago? Was it lower or higher than it is today?

Lower, if you mean percentage of US population that graduated from each level of schooling.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

The option of corporal punishment has been taken away all together today. That is a mistake. A spanking isn't abuse IMO. There were a lot less problems in schools 35 years ago. I am not saying it's all because of the new way of punishment but it is at least a part of it. Kids need to learn that actions have consequences. Until they reach a certain age reasoning with them is not effective. A good spanking is a valid tool for an disrespectful outburst.

I agree, but I believe that responsibility (corporal punishment) should be the parent's alone. Like I've said, what we know now about kid's behavior, it stems from something...most likely from at home. So if the kid's home life is f##ked up, spanking him at school is going to do squat for him. A more effective way would be to give school officials more authority in requiring families to go to counseling when their child shows consistently aggressive or behavior that can't be modified with conventional means.

[Empress of Groovy 373]

The option of corporal punishment has been taken away all together today. That is a mistake. A spanking isn't abuse IMO. There were a lot less problems in schools 35 years ago. I am not saying it's all because of the new way of punishment but it is at least a part of it. Kids need to learn that actions have consequences. Until they reach a certain age reasoning with them is not effective. A good spanking is a valid tool for an disrespectful outburst.

There are many ways to deal with an unruly child's behavior that don't involve physical pain.