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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Colombia
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Hello everyone My novia and I are about to take the trip down the K-1 visa journey. We should be prepared to submit our I-129F application sometime this coming week.. After much reading and investigating, I'm pretty confident that with all the help we have found here on this site, we should do fine.. I do have a question. Bella has a 1 1/2 yr old son. The son has NOT been baptized I have been told on a couple of occasions that before the interview the baby will need to be baptized if only for the certificate and to be translated. Bella has the birth certificate and a passport for the baby, shouldn't this be sufficient? Thank you in advance for your help..

Joe & Bella

K-1 Timeline

1-19-'08: I-129F Mailed to VSC

1-20-'08: I-129F Received VSC

1-24-'08: Check Cashed

1-25-'08: NOA 1 Received

3-13-'08: NOA 2

3-17-'08: NVC Received Package

3-31-'08: Embassy sends package 3

4-29-'08: Medical

5-07-'08: Date of Interview

5-15-'08: Visa Approved

5-27-'08: Arrived POE Miami

8-24-'08: Married

AOS Timeline

11-18-'10: AOS Mailed

11-22-'10: AOS Received Chicago, Sign for by S. Bush

12-07-'10: AOS Checks Cashed

12-11-'10: AOS NOA1 Hard Copy Received

12-19-'10: AOS Received Biometrics Letter

12-27-'10: AOS Walked In Biometrics For Both 495 & EAD

01-06-'11: AOS Biometrics Appointment

01-11-'11: EAD Biometrics Appointment

02-11-'11: EAD Notification : On February 11, 2011

03-29-'11: AOS Notification : On March 29, 2011, mailed appointment notice for interview for May 4, 2011

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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Why would you need a baptismal record? Not every religion baptizes babies and the US does not discriminate against any religion. Even if there was no religion practiced by either of you it wouldn't come into play. You only need a birth certificate (translated).

3/5/11 sent LOC paperwork

3/9/11 date of NOA

?/?/?? biometrics appointment

Posted
Why would you need a baptismal record? Not every religion baptizes babies and the US does not discriminate against any religion. Even if there was no religion practiced by either of you it wouldn't come into play. You only need a birth certificate (translated).

Ditto that! Curious, who told you this would be a requirement? Probably someone who just wants your child baptized for their own reasons...

Good luck to you

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Nov 2004 -------> Fell in love

Jan 2006 -------> Met (in person) for first time

Apr 2008 -------> Wedding

Jun 2008 -------> Closed on house together

K-1 timeline:

Jun 11, 2007 -------> I-129f sent

Mar 20, 2008 -------> Visa in hand

AoS/EAD/AP timeline:

Apr 26, 2008 -------> Wedding

Apr 28, 2008 -------> Filed (forms mailed)

Apr 30, 2008 -------> Forms received by USCIS

May 06, 2008 -------> Cashed check posted to account

May 10, 2008 -------> NOA1 received for EAD, AP, and AoS

May 10, 2008 -------> Biometrics appt date received

May 28, 2008 -------> Biometrics for EAD & AoS

Jun 11, 2008 -------> AoS case transferred to CSC

Jul 05, 2008 -------> AP Approval

Jul 09, 2008 -------> EAD approval

Jul 14, 2008 -------> EAD and AP received

Jul 17, 2008 -------> AoS approved (card production ordered)

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Argentina
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Hi Joe,

Take a look at this thread baptismal certificate Colombia.

This is the first time I've heard of this, interesting...are church records also state/oficial records in Colombia?

Anyways, looks like you will need to get a statement notified and signed explaining the reason of why you don't have it.

Good Luck! :thumbs:

Saludos,

Caro

***Justin And Caro***
Happily married and enjoying our life together!

Filed: Other Country: China
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Hi Joe,

Take a look at this thread baptismal certificate Colombia.

This is the first time I've heard of this, interesting...are church records also state/oficial records in Colombia?

Anyways, looks like you will need to get a statement notified and signed explaining the reason of why you don't have it.

Good Luck! :thumbs:

Saludos,

Caro

You can substitute a notarized affidavit indicating why the baptismal certificate is not availsble. If you post your question in the Columbia Club thread, somebody there can tell you how to obtain it.

The US Constitution provides that there must be an alternative to providing a baptismal certificate. Jews, Muslims, Atheists or any other person who so chooses, would never have this document. We do let them immigrate to the US.

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Filed: Other Timeline
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Hi Joe,

Take a look at this thread baptismal certificate Colombia.

This is the first time I've heard of this, interesting...are church records also state/oficial records in Colombia?

Anyways, looks like you will need to get a statement notified and signed explaining the reason of why you don't have it.

Good Luck! :thumbs:

Saludos,

Caro

You can substitute a notarized affidavit indicating why the baptismal certificate is not availsble. If you post your question in the Columbia Club thread, somebody there can tell you how to obtain it.

The US Constitution provides that there must be an alternative to providing a baptismal certificate. Jews, Muslims, Atheists or any other person who so chooses, would never have this document. We do let them immigrate to the US.

But is this requirement unique to Columbia or native born persons of it? I really don't know.

Filed: Other Country: China
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Posted
Hi Joe,

Take a look at this thread baptismal certificate Colombia.

This is the first time I've heard of this, interesting...are church records also state/oficial records in Colombia?

Anyways, looks like you will need to get a statement notified and signed explaining the reason of why you don't have it.

Good Luck! :thumbs:

Saludos,

Caro

You can substitute a notarized affidavit indicating why the baptismal certificate is not availsble. If you post your question in the Columbia Club thread, somebody there can tell you how to obtain it.

The US Constitution provides that there must be an alternative to providing a baptismal certificate. Jews, Muslims, Atheists or any other person who so chooses, would never have this document. We do let them immigrate to the US.

But is this requirement unique to Columbia or native born persons of it? I really don't know.

I only recall hearing of the US Consular IV unit asking for it from Columbia. It really doesn't matter what Columbia requires of its native born because IV units are not restricted to issuing visas to natives of the Countries they serve. There is and has to be a way around this listed requirement because the US government is forbidden by its Constitution to require an immigrant to submit to a Christian religious rite.

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Understanding the big picture is priceless. Anonymous

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Colombia
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Thank you everyone for your responses and directions..

I spoke with Bella today discussing the option of the letter or an actual baptismal..

She has decided that she wants to have the baptismal not only for the child, but as a event for the family.. She feels she will be missing some holidays, etc being away from here family when she is here, she wants' to have as many family gatherings as possible now..lol

I am certain we will have many more questions in the future and are very grateful for having found these forums and you wonderful people

Joe & Bella

K-1 Timeline

1-19-'08: I-129F Mailed to VSC

1-20-'08: I-129F Received VSC

1-24-'08: Check Cashed

1-25-'08: NOA 1 Received

3-13-'08: NOA 2

3-17-'08: NVC Received Package

3-31-'08: Embassy sends package 3

4-29-'08: Medical

5-07-'08: Date of Interview

5-15-'08: Visa Approved

5-27-'08: Arrived POE Miami

8-24-'08: Married

AOS Timeline

11-18-'10: AOS Mailed

11-22-'10: AOS Received Chicago, Sign for by S. Bush

12-07-'10: AOS Checks Cashed

12-11-'10: AOS NOA1 Hard Copy Received

12-19-'10: AOS Received Biometrics Letter

12-27-'10: AOS Walked In Biometrics For Both 495 & EAD

01-06-'11: AOS Biometrics Appointment

01-11-'11: EAD Biometrics Appointment

02-11-'11: EAD Notification : On February 11, 2011

03-29-'11: AOS Notification : On March 29, 2011, mailed appointment notice for interview for May 4, 2011

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Hey Joe. Take a look at the "Colombia Club" forum. I'm sure you will find all the answers you need.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2572

Tony

11/28/06 Received NOA1 from VSC by snail mail

12/05/06 Touched

12/21/06 Received email notification of approval! NOA2

12/28/06 Received NOA2 from VSC by snail mail

12/27/06 NVC received I-129F

12/28/06 NVC mailed I-129F to Bogota via DHL

01/02/07 Package arrive in Bogota

01/09/07 Faxed/mailed "shortcut"

01/11/07 Fiancee received Package 3 by mail

01/26/07 Interview date set for 2/26/07

01/30/07 Fiancee received Package 4

02/26/07 Interview is successful

02/27/07 Fiancee received Visa

03/15/07 Arrived in New York!

05/26/07 Married in Orlando!

AOS

06/28/07 Mailed AOS package

06/30/07 Received in Chicago

07/12/07 AOS application check cashed

07/14/07 Received NOA for AOS

07/16/07 Received snail mail notice of Biometric date of 08/02/07

08/02/07 Biometrics

09/07/07 Online notice that EAD card ordered

09/18/07 Received EAD card in the mail

08/03/08 Finally able to view case online

08/16/08 Received notice for second biometrics

09/10/08 Received notice for AOS interview on 09/16/08

09/16/08 AOS APROVED!!!!!

09/29/08 CG arrived in the mail.

07/15/10 Mailed package for lifting conditions.

07/23/10 Received NOA for lifting conditions

07/28/10 Received notice of biometric appointment for

August 11,2010.

Filed: Other Timeline
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But is this requirement unique to Columbia or native born persons of it? I really don't know.

I only recall hearing of the US Consular IV unit asking for it from Columbia. It really doesn't matter what Columbia requires of its native born because IV units are not restricted to issuing visas to natives of the Countries they serve. There is and has to be a way around this listed requirement because the US government is forbidden by its Constitution to require an immigrant to submit to a Christian religious rite.

Yes, the consulate is not restricted to serving only natives of its nation. However, consulates may expect different things of them. As far as my personal experience goes, London will look for the 'long form' birth certificate from its native born customers. If I were processing through London, they would accept my very squirrelly looking teeny birth certificate from Pennsylvania because that's my official document.

So I'm just wondering if there is some reason Columbia wants a baptismal certificate. Maybe they don't. I don't have a dog in this fight so it's not up to me personally to care. I'm just saying differences can exist.

Filed: Other Country: China
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But is this requirement unique to Columbia or native born persons of it? I really don't know.

I only recall hearing of the US Consular IV unit asking for it from Columbia. It really doesn't matter what Columbia requires of its native born because IV units are not restricted to issuing visas to natives of the Countries they serve. There is and has to be a way around this listed requirement because the US government is forbidden by its Constitution to require an immigrant to submit to a Christian religious rite.

Yes, the consulate is not restricted to serving only natives of its nation. However, consulates may expect different things of them. As far as my personal experience goes, London will look for the 'long form' birth certificate from its native born customers. If I were processing through London, they would accept my very squirrelly looking teeny birth certificate from Pennsylvania because that's my official document.

So I'm just wondering if there is some reason Columbia wants a baptismal certificate. Maybe they don't. I don't have a dog in this fight so it's not up to me personally to care. I'm just saying differences can exist.

I think there's probably some information on the baptismal certificate that may not be on the birth certificate. Perhaps somebody in the Columbia club knows. My only dog in the fight is that there must be a way to do without a baptismal certificate and there is. A moot point for this OP now but an extremely important one for anybody either not Christian, too young for baptism in their particular faith or those previously baptized in another country.

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But is this requirement unique to Columbia or native born persons of it? I really don't know.

I only recall hearing of the US Consular IV unit asking for it from Columbia. It really doesn't matter what Columbia requires of its native born because IV units are not restricted to issuing visas to natives of the Countries they serve. There is and has to be a way around this listed requirement because the US government is forbidden by its Constitution to require an immigrant to submit to a Christian religious rite.

Yes, the consulate is not restricted to serving only natives of its nation. However, consulates may expect different things of them. As far as my personal experience goes, London will look for the 'long form' birth certificate from its native born customers. If I were processing through London, they would accept my very squirrelly looking teeny birth certificate from Pennsylvania because that's my official document.

So I'm just wondering if there is some reason Columbia wants a baptismal certificate. Maybe they don't. I don't have a dog in this fight so it's not up to me personally to care. I'm just saying differences can exist.

I think there's probably some information on the baptismal certificate that may not be on the birth certificate. Perhaps somebody in the Columbia club knows. My only dog in the fight is that there must be a way to do without a baptismal certificate and there is. A moot point for this OP now but an extremely important one for anybody either not Christian, too young for baptism in their particular faith or those previously baptized in another country.

I understand and agree.

But I had a thought that came from something you posted a few posts above about the Constitution.

You realize that intending immigrants don't have these rights, correct?

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Filed: Other Country: China
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But is this requirement unique to Columbia or native born persons of it? I really don't know.

I only recall hearing of the US Consular IV unit asking for it from Columbia. It really doesn't matter what Columbia requires of its native born because IV units are not restricted to issuing visas to natives of the Countries they serve. There is and has to be a way around this listed requirement because the US government is forbidden by its Constitution to require an immigrant to submit to a Christian religious rite.

Yes, the consulate is not restricted to serving only natives of its nation. However, consulates may expect different things of them. As far as my personal experience goes, London will look for the 'long form' birth certificate from its native born customers. If I were processing through London, they would accept my very squirrelly looking teeny birth certificate from Pennsylvania because that's my official document.

So I'm just wondering if there is some reason Columbia wants a baptismal certificate. Maybe they don't. I don't have a dog in this fight so it's not up to me personally to care. I'm just saying differences can exist.

I think there's probably some information on the baptismal certificate that may not be on the birth certificate. Perhaps somebody in the Columbia club knows. My only dog in the fight is that there must be a way to do without a baptismal certificate and there is. A moot point for this OP now but an extremely important one for anybody either not Christian, too young for baptism in their particular faith or those previously baptized in another country.

I understand and agree.

But I had a thought that came from something you posted a few posts above about the Constitution.

You realize that intending immigrants don't have these rights, correct?

I'm not asserting the immigrant has rights under the US Constitution. I'm saying the US Constitution prohibits our government from requiring that anybody engage in any specific religious rite. Not the same animal at all. An IV unit can request any document they see fit but cannot require the production of a document that would require the immigrant to engage in a religious rite. There's a way around it.

Facts are cheap...knowing how to use them is precious...
Understanding the big picture is priceless. Anonymous

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But is this requirement unique to Columbia or native born persons of it? I really don't know.

I only recall hearing of the US Consular IV unit asking for it from Columbia. It really doesn't matter what Columbia requires of its native born because IV units are not restricted to issuing visas to natives of the Countries they serve. There is and has to be a way around this listed requirement because the US government is forbidden by its Constitution to require an immigrant to submit to a Christian religious rite.

Yes, the consulate is not restricted to serving only natives of its nation. However, consulates may expect different things of them. As far as my personal experience goes, London will look for the 'long form' birth certificate from its native born customers. If I were processing through London, they would accept my very squirrelly looking teeny birth certificate from Pennsylvania because that's my official document.

So I'm just wondering if there is some reason Columbia wants a baptismal certificate. Maybe they don't. I don't have a dog in this fight so it's not up to me personally to care. I'm just saying differences can exist.

I think there's probably some information on the baptismal certificate that may not be on the birth certificate. Perhaps somebody in the Columbia club knows. My only dog in the fight is that there must be a way to do without a baptismal certificate and there is. A moot point for this OP now but an extremely important one for anybody either not Christian, too young for baptism in their particular faith or those previously baptized in another country.

I understand and agree.

But I had a thought that came from something you posted a few posts above about the Constitution.

You realize that intending immigrants don't have these rights, correct?

I'm not asserting the immigrant has rights under the US Constitution. I'm saying the US Constitution prohibits our government from requiring that anybody engage in any specific religious rite. Not the same animal at all. An IV unit can request any document they see fit but cannot require the production of a document that would require the immigrant to engage in a religious rite. There's a way around it.

Ah. Gotcha.

 
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