Need advise on Documents needed for K-2 visa

[payxibka 10,045]

thanks for the information. What "separate visa application" are you referring to? The checklist for the I29F/K1 does not mention a separate application form beyond the I29F, the G325a, and the I134. We are proceeding to have the daughter's father submit a letter and some sort of official Ukrainian form that gives his permission for her to obtain an international passport and to leave for the USA. My fiance` is using a local agency to provide certified translations of all the Ukrainian documents, and they are also advising her on other things she will need. They have performed these duties for a lot of others like her, so I appreciate their advice, too! Thanks for all the guidance!

You must separate in your mind the petition process and the visa application process as they are distinct.... You are now in the petition process with the USCIS.... The USCIS does not issue visas as that is done by the Department of State. The visa application process begins after the petition has been approved and sent to the Consulate at which time your fiance(e) will submit her application for the visa (DS-156, DS-156K, DS-230, etc...)

No special form required for the child to receive an international passport. There is no "official" form that I am aware of for the consent to emmigrate but I am sure the agency has a standard form that they have used previously that fulfills the requirements of the consulate. No consent, no visa.

[cwaf 1]

Hello! I am also new to this forum, and am beginning the process to bring my fiance from Ukraine, along with her 17 year old daughter. I was confused by the information here, indicating new forms to be submitted for the K2 visa. I copied the following information from this site in another area--under the Guides.

If you are a US CItizen filing for a K1 or K3 Visa for your non-US fiance/spouse, and they have children, then they may bring them here under a K2/K3 Visa. The children automatically qualify for the K2/K3 visa as derivitive status of their mom's K1/K3 status (you need only petition for your fiance/wife and list the children on that petition in the relavent blanks).

If I understand the above correctly, I do not have to file any other applications for her daughter. I assume I will need a copy of her birth certificate, as well as translated to English, and a passport for her. I know they will both require medical forms later, but are there any other forms needed for the daughter when I first submit my I29F application?

thank you!!

Chris

Nothing additional needed at petition filing other than naming the child on the form.... At the consulate interview then separate visa applications (including the ID documents), medical exam results, police reports and possibly a consent for the minor child.... not sure what age that requirement ceases...

thanks for the information. What "separate visa application" are you referring to? The checklist for the I29F/K1 does not mention a separate application form beyond the I29F, the G325a, and the I134. We are proceeding to have the daughter's father submit a letter and some sort of official Ukrainian form that gives his permission for her to obtain an international passport and to leave for the USA. My fiance` is using a local agency to provide certified translations of all the Ukrainian documents, and they are also advising her on other things she will need. They have performed these duties for a lot of others like her, so I appreciate their advice, too! Thanks for all the guidance!

ok..I looked in the download section and I see the DS-156, but it says it should be supplied by the US Embassy at the time of interview. Is this something that can, and should be, prepared ahead of time?

ok..I answered my own questions with a lot more investigating. I do not know if others have noticed, but the link to the DS-156 form under "K1 Fiance forms" no longer works. I discovered that there is an E-form for it now to be filled out online, and then printed. It will not allow you to save and fill it out later. it can be found here: https://evisaforms.state.gov:443/ds156.asp As far as I can tell, this is the only option now. The DS-156K download link is to the newest form and it can be saved. Ironically, the Ukraine Embassy site explains the visa process extremely well, and even recommends downloading its 'Information Packet" instead of relying on the Ukrainian mail system to deliver the packet once the Embassy receives the completed package form the USA. The forms are quite old, with the DS-156K expiring 7/31/07 and the DS-156eng expiring on 8/31/2004 !!!! I sent an email to the Embassy with questions about the validity of their forms now, and provided links to the newest forms, suggesting they update their packet. I have not yet heard back from them.

[cwaf 1]

It has been a long time since I have come back to this post. We have progressed much farther with our case--and I expect NOA2 within a short period of time. I have received two replies from the Embassy in Kiev for questions I sent to them. The first was about their outdated forms they had in their packet 3. They replied and said they would accept either the old ones or the new ones. We are going with the new ones to be safe! The second reply came today in answer to my question about what permission forms are needed for the 17 year old to leave the country. This was my question:"My fiancé has a 17 year old daughter that will be accompanying her to the USA. She is completing high school in a few days. My interpretations of the instructions that I downloaded from your website (KEV-1 Instructions__NEWcall_center_Edited 01.18.2008) are that we do not need any type of permission from her father, who is staying behind, to travel and live in the USA."

The following is the exact answer provided in the email. "Thank you for your inquiry of June 03, 2008. Please be advised that children over 16 years old (that is 16 and older) do not need to have permission because at the age of 16 in Ukraine children attain the first step of their majority.

I also have a small snafu because the international passport that was obtained for the 17 year old earlier this year expires in January when she turns 18!! Since it is required to have 6 months of valid time left on the visa to enter the USA, she cannot come in on her own passport and will have to come in on her mother's, afterall! From the Embassy's email reply: "As to the passport question, it is true that the validity of the international passport must be at least 6 month at the time of entering the U.S.A. Thus, your fiancée's daughter either can get a new travel document or she can be included into her mother's international passport, however, in this case the girl will be able to travel only with her mother." That was a waste of money for that international passport! hahaha

I hope this information helps anyone else with thier Ukraine process!

ok..I answered my own questions with a lot more investigating. I do not know if others have noticed, but the link to the DS-156 form under "K1 Fiance forms" no longer works. I discovered that there is an E-form for it now to be filled out online, and then printed. It will not allow you to save and fill it out later. it can be found here: https://evisaforms.state.gov:443/ds156.asp As far as I can tell, this is the only option now. The DS-156K download link is to the newest form and it can be saved. Ironically, the Ukraine Embassy site explains the visa process extremely well, and even recommends downloading its 'Information Packet" instead of relying on the Ukrainian mail system to deliver the packet once the Embassy receives the completed package form the USA. The forms are quite old, with the DS-156K expiring 7/31/07 and the DS-156eng expiring on 8/31/2004 !!!! I sent an email to the Embassy with questions about the validity of their forms now, and provided links to the newest forms, suggesting they update their packet. I have not yet heard back from them.

[pushbrk 12,876]

Yes.

The answer to this question is country and case specific. In this case, you are dead wrong. Please be careful in the future that you apply the appropriate country and case specific factors before answering.

In the PI, illigitimate children don't need any permission from the biological father.

The factors you didn't consider are, one, it's the PI and two, the children are illigitimate.