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You are working for a Canadian-based company, so US work authorization does not apply. I did the same. All the EAD does is give you the right to work for an employer in the US, and the US employer the right to hire you. Think of it this way..... when someone employed in another country comes to the US on business they do not have to apply for employment authorization first. That is because they are not here working for a US-based company.... they are working for a foreign-based company.

This is so wrong.... employment authorization is required for working in the US for ANY company that has US nexus

I agree with fwaguy. EAD is required to work in the US.

Here's something straight off the USCIS site:

"EAD: This document proves you are allowed to work in the United States."

Brad worked while in the US... even though the company was Canadian based.

You're right. The EAD proves you are allowed to work in the United States. Now...why would a Canadian company that Brad ALREADY worked for need proof that he is allowed to work in the United States? A Canadian company is not subject to the "EAD" rule of the United States as far as I know. A Canadian company can hire whomever they wish, whether they have an "EAD" or not.

I HATE miles, gallons, pints, words spelled without u's, and all that other jazz...

07/21/07 Entered United States on K1 visa

08/18 Married

10/20 Sent AOS package to Chicago; arrived on 10/22

11/21 Biometrics appointment

12/14 EAD card production ordered; AP approved

12/15 AOS transferred to CSC

12/22 AP arrives in mail

12/27 Received EAD in mail

02/15/08 Green Card production ordered

02/25 Received Welcome letter in mail

02/28 Green card arrived in mail. Done with USCIS for now

01/12/10 Sent I-751 to California Service Center; arrived on 1/14/2010

02/09 Biometrics appointment in Michigan City, Indiana

02/10 Case updated

02/23 Received NOA

03/08 Card production ordered

03/10 ROC approval letter arrives

03/15 Ten year Green card arrives

02/17/12 Mailed citizenship application

forget day Biometrics appointment in Michigan City, Indiana

05/14 Interview and test in Indianapolis, Indiana

05/23 Received oath letter

06/15 Oath ceremony...end of the line.

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I do not see where Brad was saying that the Canadian company had any nexus with US, but maybe you understood more than I did from his post. I think though that Fwaguy was referring strictly to Krikit's post and that situation.

And yes, if it did have any US branch and he was working for that branch, than it doesn't matter that the headquarters are in Canada, EAD would still be required.

As for the matter of "working while in US", I believe it's just a "slip" from uscis, because one can travel in USA for a business congress, let's say, or even pleasure, and still be working for his/her company in his/her country, without a need to ask for any employment authorization from US government. In other words, if you are in vacation here, no EAD needed :) And legally, you "are working while in USA" (the labor contract is not suspended during the vacation).

Of course, no parallel can be done between such a situation and the one Brad exposed, as he is not here as a tourist :) On the other hand, as mentioned, nor is he here as a USC or resident.

K-1 petition

February 6th 2007 - K1 petition sent to TSC

February 16th 2007 - cheque cashed

February 22nd 2007 - NOA1 received by mail!

May 16th - received NOA2 hardcopy

May 25th - first set of documents received home in Bucharest (list of documents to present at the interview) - based on fiance's request to open a provisional file

May 30th - packet arrived at the Embassy, Embassy notifies us about it.

June 21st - interview APPROVED!

June 22nd - VISA

August 17th - arriving in USA, through JFK

Sept 8th - wedding :)

AOS

Nov. 14th 2007 - delivered in Chicago

Dec. 18th 2007 - NOA for AOS, EAD, AP

Jan. 08th 2008 - Biometrics

Jan 09th 2008 - Transferred to CSC

Jan 09th 2008 - AP approved, EAD card production ordered

Jan 16th 2008 - AP in mail

Jan 19th 2008 - EAD in mail!!!

Jan 24th 2008 - AOS touch

Feb 05th 2008 - AOS touch

Feb 06th 2008 - AOS touch - RFE sent out

March 7th 2008 - Sent response to RFE (new medical)

March 28th 2008 - CRIS e-mail: CARD PRODUCTION ORDERED

April 4th 2008 - GREEN CARD RECEIVED

ROC

Feb. 5th - package delivered at USCIS Vermont

Feb 11th - check cashed

Feb 13th - NOA 1 received for myself (NOA date: 02/05)

Feb 26th - Biometrics

Feb 28th - touch

March 1st - touch

April 26th - CARD PRODUCTION ORDERED

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If it's a Canadian company, I believe he can work for them.

I HATE miles, gallons, pints, words spelled without u's, and all that other jazz...

07/21/07 Entered United States on K1 visa

08/18 Married

10/20 Sent AOS package to Chicago; arrived on 10/22

11/21 Biometrics appointment

12/14 EAD card production ordered; AP approved

12/15 AOS transferred to CSC

12/22 AP arrives in mail

12/27 Received EAD in mail

02/15/08 Green Card production ordered

02/25 Received Welcome letter in mail

02/28 Green card arrived in mail. Done with USCIS for now

01/12/10 Sent I-751 to California Service Center; arrived on 1/14/2010

02/09 Biometrics appointment in Michigan City, Indiana

02/10 Case updated

02/23 Received NOA

03/08 Card production ordered

03/10 ROC approval letter arrives

03/15 Ten year Green card arrives

02/17/12 Mailed citizenship application

forget day Biometrics appointment in Michigan City, Indiana

05/14 Interview and test in Indianapolis, Indiana

05/23 Received oath letter

06/15 Oath ceremony...end of the line.

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You are working for a Canadian-based company, so US work authorization does not apply. I did the same. All the EAD does is give you the right to work for an employer in the US, and the US employer the right to hire you. Think of it this way..... when someone employed in another country comes to the US on business they do not have to apply for employment authorization first. That is because they are not here working for a US-based company.... they are working for a foreign-based company.

This is so wrong.... employment authorization is required for working in the US for ANY company that has US nexus

I agree with fwaguy. EAD is required to work in the US.

Here's something straight off the USCIS site:

"EAD: This document proves you are allowed to work in the United States."

Brad worked while in the US... even though the company was Canadian based.

You're right. The EAD proves you are allowed to work in the United States. Now...why would a Canadian company that Brad ALREADY worked for need proof that he is allowed to work in the United States? A Canadian company is not subject to the "EAD" rule of the United States as far as I know. A Canadian company can hire whomever they wish, whether they have an "EAD" or not.

If they Canadian company does not have US nexus (typically meaning NO physical presence) and therefore is not considered a US employer then I would tend to agree... But simply being Canadian "based" does not mean you are not considered a US employer.... If the Canadian "based" company has an office or any other US based employees, I can almost guaranty they have satisfied the nexus requirement and are a US employer....

YMMV

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If I were in your shoes, I'd keep it to myself. There's not much you can do now to "right the wrong" even if there was a wrong in the first place- which appears debateable. You did what you had to do to support yourself and your family, and - personally - i think thats a higher priority than sticking to the letter of a badly worded law written by someone who's never been in your position.

As you have probably guessed, I'm not a lawyer, so the above is only what I'd do, nothing more :)

History:

K1
I-129F sent : 27-4-07...NAO1 received : 21-5-2007...NOA2 received : 29-8-2007...PKT 3 received : 20-10-2007...PKT 3 returned : 15-11-2007...PKT 4 received : 06-12-2007...Interview : 02-01-2008...Flight : 13-01-2008...Marriage : 15-01-2008

AOS
Entered USA.....01-13-08.....0...Married.....01-15-08.....2...Filed AOS.....01-17-08.....4...Received.....01-21-08.....8...NOAs (dated).....02-04-08.....22...Cheques cashed.....02-06-08.....24...Biometrics.....02-22-08.....40
Changed address online.....02-25-08.....43...Touched (AOS/EAD/AP).....02-26-08.....44...Address change receipt (mail).....03-07-08.....54...AP approval email.....03-12-08.....59...EAD card mailed.....03-18-08.....65...EAD card arrives.....03-20-08.....67...AOS Interview.....07-17-08.....186

ROC
Event.....Date.....Day......Mailed I-751.....07/07/10.....0...Re-sent I-751.....07/15/10.....8 (photocopy)...NAO1 Date.....07/16/10.....9...NOA1 Rec'd.....07/23/10.....16...BIO Notice.....07/26/10.....19...BIO...Rec'd.....07/30/10.....23...BIO Date.....08/12/10.....36...Card sent.....09/28/10.....83...Card Rec'd.....10/04/10.....89

Present:

N-400

Event.....Date....Day

Mailed N-400.....6 Mar 2014.....0

NOA.....11 Mar 2014.....5

BIO.....2 Apr 2014....27

INT.....10 June.....65

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I think he did the right thing by the way. If it weren't for that stupid EAD rule, I would not have fallen behind in my bills. Basically, it's bs. The policy needs to be changed. People who get married should automatically be allowed to work! I'm going to get off my soapbox now before I really get angry.

I HATE miles, gallons, pints, words spelled without u's, and all that other jazz...

07/21/07 Entered United States on K1 visa

08/18 Married

10/20 Sent AOS package to Chicago; arrived on 10/22

11/21 Biometrics appointment

12/14 EAD card production ordered; AP approved

12/15 AOS transferred to CSC

12/22 AP arrives in mail

12/27 Received EAD in mail

02/15/08 Green Card production ordered

02/25 Received Welcome letter in mail

02/28 Green card arrived in mail. Done with USCIS for now

01/12/10 Sent I-751 to California Service Center; arrived on 1/14/2010

02/09 Biometrics appointment in Michigan City, Indiana

02/10 Case updated

02/23 Received NOA

03/08 Card production ordered

03/10 ROC approval letter arrives

03/15 Ten year Green card arrives

02/17/12 Mailed citizenship application

forget day Biometrics appointment in Michigan City, Indiana

05/14 Interview and test in Indianapolis, Indiana

05/23 Received oath letter

06/15 Oath ceremony...end of the line.

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You are working for a Canadian-based company, so US work authorization does not apply. I did the same. All the EAD does is give you the right to work for an employer in the US, and the US employer the right to hire you. Think of it this way..... when someone employed in another country comes to the US on business they do not have to apply for employment authorization first. That is because they are not here working for a US-based company.... they are working for a foreign-based company.

This is so wrong.... employment authorization is required for working in the US for ANY company that has US nexus

I agree with fwaguy. EAD is required to work in the US.

Here's something straight off the USCIS site:

"EAD: This document proves you are allowed to work in the United States."

Brad worked while in the US... even though the company was Canadian based.

You're right. The EAD proves you are allowed to work in the United States. Now...why would a Canadian company that Brad ALREADY worked for need proof that he is allowed to work in the United States? A Canadian company is not subject to the "EAD" rule of the United States as far as I know. A Canadian company can hire whomever they wish, whether they have an "EAD" or not.

Its not the Canadian companies responsibility to check whether they can retain or hire Brad or not. It's his responsibility, as he's the one who has changed residence.

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You are working for a Canadian-based company, so US work authorization does not apply. I did the same. All the EAD does is give you the right to work for an employer in the US, and the US employer the right to hire you. Think of it this way..... when someone employed in another country comes to the US on business they do not have to apply for employment authorization first. That is because they are not here working for a US-based company.... they are working for a foreign-based company.

This is so wrong.... employment authorization is required for working in the US for ANY company that has US nexus

I agree with fwaguy. EAD is required to work in the US.

Here's something straight off the USCIS site:

"EAD: This document proves you are allowed to work in the United States."

Brad worked while in the US... even though the company was Canadian based.

You're right. The EAD proves you are allowed to work in the United States. Now...why would a Canadian company that Brad ALREADY worked for need proof that he is allowed to work in the United States? A Canadian company is not subject to the "EAD" rule of the United States as far as I know. A Canadian company can hire whomever they wish, whether they have an "EAD" or not.

If they Canadian company does not have US nexus (typically meaning NO physical presence) and therefore is not considered a US employer then I would tend to agree... But simply being Canadian "based" does not mean you are not considered a US employer.... If the Canadian "based" company has an office or any other US based employees, I can almost guaranty they have satisfied the nexus requirement and are a US employer....

If they are a U.S. employer then THEY broke the law and should get in more trouble than Brad would/could get into. I think you agree with this eh?

You are working for a Canadian-based company, so US work authorization does not apply. I did the same. All the EAD does is give you the right to work for an employer in the US, and the US employer the right to hire you. Think of it this way..... when someone employed in another country comes to the US on business they do not have to apply for employment authorization first. That is because they are not here working for a US-based company.... they are working for a foreign-based company.

This is so wrong.... employment authorization is required for working in the US for ANY company that has US nexus

I agree with fwaguy. EAD is required to work in the US.

Here's something straight off the USCIS site:

"EAD: This document proves you are allowed to work in the United States."

Brad worked while in the US... even though the company was Canadian based.

You're right. The EAD proves you are allowed to work in the United States. Now...why would a Canadian company that Brad ALREADY worked for need proof that he is allowed to work in the United States? A Canadian company is not subject to the "EAD" rule of the United States as far as I know. A Canadian company can hire whomever they wish, whether they have an "EAD" or not.

Its not the Canadian companies responsibility to check whether they can retain or hire Brad or not. It's his responsibility, as he's the one who has changed residence.

Actually, the main responsiblity does lay with the employer. Are you saying it is a Canadian company?

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I HATE miles, gallons, pints, words spelled without u's, and all that other jazz...

07/21/07 Entered United States on K1 visa

08/18 Married

10/20 Sent AOS package to Chicago; arrived on 10/22

11/21 Biometrics appointment

12/14 EAD card production ordered; AP approved

12/15 AOS transferred to CSC

12/22 AP arrives in mail

12/27 Received EAD in mail

02/15/08 Green Card production ordered

02/25 Received Welcome letter in mail

02/28 Green card arrived in mail. Done with USCIS for now

01/12/10 Sent I-751 to California Service Center; arrived on 1/14/2010

02/09 Biometrics appointment in Michigan City, Indiana

02/10 Case updated

02/23 Received NOA

03/08 Card production ordered

03/10 ROC approval letter arrives

03/15 Ten year Green card arrives

02/17/12 Mailed citizenship application

forget day Biometrics appointment in Michigan City, Indiana

05/14 Interview and test in Indianapolis, Indiana

05/23 Received oath letter

06/15 Oath ceremony...end of the line.

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Actually, the main responsiblity does lay with the employer.

And try telling that to an IO at the AOS interview. :wacko:

I don't have to. But actually, the responsibility does lay with the employer. And next time, before you want to put the wacko emoticon, I'd suggest you find out what you're talking about first. Because you are flat out wrong.

Now, are you saying it is a Canadian company?

I HATE miles, gallons, pints, words spelled without u's, and all that other jazz...

07/21/07 Entered United States on K1 visa

08/18 Married

10/20 Sent AOS package to Chicago; arrived on 10/22

11/21 Biometrics appointment

12/14 EAD card production ordered; AP approved

12/15 AOS transferred to CSC

12/22 AP arrives in mail

12/27 Received EAD in mail

02/15/08 Green Card production ordered

02/25 Received Welcome letter in mail

02/28 Green card arrived in mail. Done with USCIS for now

01/12/10 Sent I-751 to California Service Center; arrived on 1/14/2010

02/09 Biometrics appointment in Michigan City, Indiana

02/10 Case updated

02/23 Received NOA

03/08 Card production ordered

03/10 ROC approval letter arrives

03/15 Ten year Green card arrives

02/17/12 Mailed citizenship application

forget day Biometrics appointment in Michigan City, Indiana

05/14 Interview and test in Indianapolis, Indiana

05/23 Received oath letter

06/15 Oath ceremony...end of the line.

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And anyway, leaving aside the question in debate and going back to basis... I seem to remember that I read somewhere that spouses of USC are pardoned if they work in US without an EAD, and indeed it's the company who has to pay if any problems arises.

K-1 petition

February 6th 2007 - K1 petition sent to TSC

February 16th 2007 - cheque cashed

February 22nd 2007 - NOA1 received by mail!

May 16th - received NOA2 hardcopy

May 25th - first set of documents received home in Bucharest (list of documents to present at the interview) - based on fiance's request to open a provisional file

May 30th - packet arrived at the Embassy, Embassy notifies us about it.

June 21st - interview APPROVED!

June 22nd - VISA

August 17th - arriving in USA, through JFK

Sept 8th - wedding :)

AOS

Nov. 14th 2007 - delivered in Chicago

Dec. 18th 2007 - NOA for AOS, EAD, AP

Jan. 08th 2008 - Biometrics

Jan 09th 2008 - Transferred to CSC

Jan 09th 2008 - AP approved, EAD card production ordered

Jan 16th 2008 - AP in mail

Jan 19th 2008 - EAD in mail!!!

Jan 24th 2008 - AOS touch

Feb 05th 2008 - AOS touch

Feb 06th 2008 - AOS touch - RFE sent out

March 7th 2008 - Sent response to RFE (new medical)

March 28th 2008 - CRIS e-mail: CARD PRODUCTION ORDERED

April 4th 2008 - GREEN CARD RECEIVED

ROC

Feb. 5th - package delivered at USCIS Vermont

Feb 11th - check cashed

Feb 13th - NOA 1 received for myself (NOA date: 02/05)

Feb 26th - Biometrics

Feb 28th - touch

March 1st - touch

April 26th - CARD PRODUCTION ORDERED

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Actually, the main responsiblity does lay with the employer.

And try telling that to an IO at the AOS interview. :wacko:

I don't have to. But actually, the responsibility does lay with the employer. And next time, before you want to put the wacko emoticon, I'd suggest you find out what you're talking about first. Because you are flat out wrong.

Now, are you saying it is a Canadian company?

Take a chill pill. I quoted directly off the USCIS site and am sticking to it. Where's your proof?? I'm not saying its a Canadian company or not, cause I'm not the one working for it. My comments were based on if it was a Canadian based.

Your comments that people should work as soon as they are married would encourage unauthorized work. There is a reason people file and wait for EAD you know.

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And anyway, leaving aside the question in debate and going back to basis... I seem to remember that I read somewhere that spouses of USC are pardoned if they work in US without an EAD, and indeed it's the company who has to pay if any problems arises.

You're right. My employer knew when I was hired that my work permit would expire a month later. When the time came, they still scheduled me for work after it expired. I did the honest thing and told them but if I hadn't, they would have been the ones having to answer to the government. I probably should have just kept my mouth shut and worked.

I HATE miles, gallons, pints, words spelled without u's, and all that other jazz...

07/21/07 Entered United States on K1 visa

08/18 Married

10/20 Sent AOS package to Chicago; arrived on 10/22

11/21 Biometrics appointment

12/14 EAD card production ordered; AP approved

12/15 AOS transferred to CSC

12/22 AP arrives in mail

12/27 Received EAD in mail

02/15/08 Green Card production ordered

02/25 Received Welcome letter in mail

02/28 Green card arrived in mail. Done with USCIS for now

01/12/10 Sent I-751 to California Service Center; arrived on 1/14/2010

02/09 Biometrics appointment in Michigan City, Indiana

02/10 Case updated

02/23 Received NOA

03/08 Card production ordered

03/10 ROC approval letter arrives

03/15 Ten year Green card arrives

02/17/12 Mailed citizenship application

forget day Biometrics appointment in Michigan City, Indiana

05/14 Interview and test in Indianapolis, Indiana

05/23 Received oath letter

06/15 Oath ceremony...end of the line.

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It doesn't matter who the employer is. If you work and are receiving compensation while you are a US resident, you need to have work authorization. Believe me, even if the USCIS doesn't care, the IRS will.

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Actually, the main responsiblity does lay with the employer.

And try telling that to an IO at the AOS interview. :wacko:

I don't have to. But actually, the responsibility does lay with the employer. And next time, before you want to put the wacko emoticon, I'd suggest you find out what you're talking about first. Because you are flat out wrong.

Now, are you saying it is a Canadian company?

Take a chill pill. I quoted directly off the USCIS site and am sticking to it. Where's your proof?? I'm not saying its a Canadian company or not, cause I'm not the one working for it. My comments were based on if it was a Canadian based.

Your comments that people should work as soon as they are married would encourage unauthorized work. There is a reason people file and wait for EAD you know.

I think it is you who needs to take a chill pill. I followed the law. I am simply angry about it and stated so. Don't take it as if I'm advocating people go out and break the law. However, if you acknowledge it is a Canadian company then your theory is shot out of the water. A Canadian has every right to work for a Canadian company, whether it's in the U.S. or Timbuckfriggintoo.

Where's my proof? It's all over visajourney. The employer is responsible. And you provided absolutely zero proof to back up your position that the individual is responsible. Are you going to?

It doesn't matter who the employer is. If you work and are receiving compensation while you are a US resident, you need to have work authorization. Believe me, even if the USCIS doesn't care, the IRS will.

And the IRS has what authority over Canada?

I HATE miles, gallons, pints, words spelled without u's, and all that other jazz...

07/21/07 Entered United States on K1 visa

08/18 Married

10/20 Sent AOS package to Chicago; arrived on 10/22

11/21 Biometrics appointment

12/14 EAD card production ordered; AP approved

12/15 AOS transferred to CSC

12/22 AP arrives in mail

12/27 Received EAD in mail

02/15/08 Green Card production ordered

02/25 Received Welcome letter in mail

02/28 Green card arrived in mail. Done with USCIS for now

01/12/10 Sent I-751 to California Service Center; arrived on 1/14/2010

02/09 Biometrics appointment in Michigan City, Indiana

02/10 Case updated

02/23 Received NOA

03/08 Card production ordered

03/10 ROC approval letter arrives

03/15 Ten year Green card arrives

02/17/12 Mailed citizenship application

forget day Biometrics appointment in Michigan City, Indiana

05/14 Interview and test in Indianapolis, Indiana

05/23 Received oath letter

06/15 Oath ceremony...end of the line.

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