Fading in polls, Clinton vows to fight on

[almaty 19]

Hillary...under estimated Obama.....now, she is in a politcal fight and handling the stress poorly...

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Read closely, I said she's had a minor setback.

She's crying after a minor setback. Speaks volumes.

[no name 1]

Read closely, I said she's had a minor setback.

She's crying after a minor setback. Speaks volumes.

Read the stories about it. She's crying cuz she's tired.

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Tired? That's pathetic.

[simple_male 1]

Tired? That's pathetic.

Senator Obama is poised to win big time tomorrow. It would dent Hillary's hope seriously to be the Presidential nominee. The momentum would be with Obama. But she won't back down until Super Tuesday no matter what happens tomorrow. I would think most people are tired of seeing Bush-Clintons already.

[Alex+R 0]

A show of emotion is not a show of weakness. It's important to make that distinction. At the same time, yechhh...Hillary....yecchh. Just don't like that woman.

eta: I'd rather see someone tear up because of real emotions than because of exhaustion. One thing a president needs is tons of energy even on little sleep. But still, America still values stoicism quite a bit.

Edited January 7, 2008 by Alex+R

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A show of emotion is not a show of weakness. It's important to make that distinction. At the same time, yechhh...Hillary....yecchh. Just don't like that woman.

When over a dozen candidates are going through the same demanding routine and only one of them breaks into tear... that is a show of weakness. I'm sorry.

[Alex+R 0]

A show of emotion is not a show of weakness. It's important to make that distinction. At the same time, yechhh...Hillary....yecchh. Just don't like that woman.

When over a dozen candidates are going through the same demanding routine and only one of them breaks into tear... that is a show of weakness. I'm sorry.

see my edit. I think we basically agree. On the other hand, women are more expressive of their emotions; that doesn't mean the other candidates aren't having those emotions.

[kaydee457 13]

Read closely, I said she's had a minor setback.

She's crying after a minor setback. Speaks volumes.

Read the stories about it. She's crying cuz she's tired.

Nah...I've seen the clip. She crying because she's feeling sorry for herself; she's disappointed that we're not seeing in her what she beleives we (the uninformed and deprived of her wisdom and perspective) should see......

If you listen to what she's saying when she breaks into tears she's essentially saying that 'some are ready to lead, bla, bla, bla, and some aren't and that's what's sooooooo, sniffle, sniffle, hard to take....some of us sacrifice, bla, bla, bla........etc.......or something like that.

She's just delusional....

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A show of emotion is not a show of weakness. It's important to make that distinction. At the same time, yechhh...Hillary....yecchh. Just don't like that woman.

When over a dozen candidates are going through the same demanding routine and only one of them breaks into tear... that is a show of weakness. I'm sorry.

see my edit. I think we basically agree. On the other hand, women are more expressive of their emotions; that doesn't mean the other candidates aren't having those emotions.

Strong female managers in the corporate world do not break into tear when things go wrong. That's part of what makes them effective leaders.

[Alex+R 0]

A show of emotion is not a show of weakness. It's important to make that distinction. At the same time, yechhh...Hillary....yecchh. Just don't like that woman.

When over a dozen candidates are going through the same demanding routine and only one of them breaks into tear... that is a show of weakness. I'm sorry.

see my edit. I think we basically agree. On the other hand, women are more expressive of their emotions; that doesn't mean the other candidates aren't having those emotions.

Strong female managers in the corporate world do not break into tear when things go wrong. That's part of what makes them effective leaders.

Holding in emotion is a masculine trait, and I think people like female leaders to be as male as possible. Nobody likes a teary female boss. (I have had some awful female bosses who didn't know how to negotiate that set of compromises and they were disasters.) I think we're saying she can't be an effective leader if she doesn't act more like a man. I'm not saying that's true or untrue, but it's what we seem to be saying.

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Holding in emotion is a masculine trait, and I think people like female leaders to be as male as possible. Nobody likes a teary female boss. (I have had some awful female bosses who didn't know how to negotiate that set of compromises and they were disasters.) I think we're saying she can't be an effective leader if she doesn't act more like a man. I'm not saying that's true or untrue, but it's what we seem to be saying.

I think women do themselves a disservice when they assume having control of ones emotion is a 'masculine' trait. It is not. It is a leadership trait. Traditionally leadership roles were limited to men, so leadership traits were primarily seen in men as well. Today, as women take their rightful place in our human hierarchies, they are demonstrating the same leadership traits. The men and women who do not... don't make it.

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I agree with Alex. I just saw the clip. I don't think Hillary was being weak, but I'm not sure it was a good thing for her to open up like that emotionally...at least not while holding a mic.

Edited January 7, 2008 by Mister Fancypants

[Jenn! 918]

Holding in emotion is a masculine trait, and I think people like female leaders to be as male as possible. Nobody likes a teary female boss. (I have had some awful female bosses who didn't know how to negotiate that set of compromises and they were disasters.) I think we're saying she can't be an effective leader if she doesn't act more like a man. I'm not saying that's true or untrue, but it's what we seem to be saying.

I think women do themselves a disservice when they assume having control of ones emotion is a 'masculine' trait. It is not. It is a leadership trait. Traditionally leadership roles were limited to men, so leadership traits were primarily seen in men as well. Today, as women take their rightful place in our human hierarchies, they are demonstrating the same leadership traits. The men and women who do not... don't make it.

But it is a more masculine trait, not just because society has defined it as such, but because there are physiological reasons behind it.

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But it is a more masculine trait, not just because society has defined it as such, but because there are physiological reasons behind it.

If women "can't help it", then there wouldn't be strong women leaders who don't burst into tears at every minor setback.

But... there are!