Court mulls death penalty for child rape

[one...two...tree 2,762]

What if we spent just half the energy we spend on being outraged by such heinous acts on actually finding ways to prevent child abuse? Some people's heads would implode.

[Fandango 1,439]

Apparently, by ghettoizing them, they are more likely to repeat offend.

How much more likely? Since you made the claim, I assume you have access to the data.

My source was the article. That's why I used the word "apparently."

Aah, the article.

For Lisa's benefit, here's the relevant text:

A 2007 report by Human Rights Watch found no evidence that residency restrictions reduce crimes against children, and further noted that the sex offenders who are most likely to stay out of jail and not reoffend are those who are not segregated but have “positive, informed support systems—including stable housing and social networks.” This is one of John’s concerns about relegating sex offenders to one particular area. “Isolation is not a good thing,” he says. “One of the things that creates a lot of sex-offender behavior is isolation.”

having positive support systems and 'gheto-izing' are two diff things imo. That's why I asked for further explanation.

But I don't feel so well tonight, so I'mma say nighty night.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

What if we spent just half the energy we spend on being outraged by such heinous acts on actually finding ways to prevent child abuse? Some people's heads would implode.

Bingo.

[Fandango 1,439]

What if we spent just half the energy we spend on being outraged by such heinous acts on actually finding ways to prevent child abuse? Some people's heads would implode.

Yeah, cos we'd all rather be outraged and see children get abused.

Biggest.crock.of.sh!t.ever. But then again, I'm not at all surprised.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

What if we spent just half the energy we spend on being outraged by such heinous acts on actually finding ways to prevent child abuse? Some people's heads would implode.

Yeah, cos we'd all rather be outraged and see children get abused.

Biggest.crock.of.sh!t.ever. But then again, I'm not at all surprised.

It is a crock, but some stuff is more crock than other stuff. I do have to wonder how useful it is to hear from "Sadist-Express" whenever this subject crops up. Hence there's no mileage in these threads. At least Alex raised a point that wasn't about how we should torture and kill people.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

What if we spent just half the energy we spend on being outraged by such heinous acts on actually finding ways to prevent child abuse? Some people's heads would implode.

Yeah, cos we'd all rather be outraged and see children get abused.

Biggest.crock.of.sh!t.ever. But then again, I'm not at all surprised.

Put that energy to good use. Help prevent child abuse.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Ways to Prevent Child Abuse

Be a nurturing parent.

Children need to know that they are special, loved and capable of following their dreams.

Help a friend, neighbor or relative.

Being a parent isn’t easy. Offer a helping hand take care of the children, so the parent(s) can rest or spend time together.

Help yourself.

When the big and little problems of your everyday life pile up to the point you feel

overwhelmed and out of control - take time out. Don’t take it out on your kid.

If your baby cries…

It can be frustrating to hear your baby cry. Learn what to do if your baby won’t stop

crying. Never shake a baby - shaking a child may result in severe injury or death.

Get involved.

Ask your community leaders, clergy, library and schools to develop services to meet the needs of healthy children and families.

Help to develop parenting resources at your local library.

Promote programs in school.

Teaching children, parents and teachers prevention strategies can help to keep children safe.

Monitor your child’s television and video viewing.

Watching violent films and TV programs can harm young children.

Volunteer at a local child abuse prevention program.

Report suspected abuse or neglect.

If you have reason to believe a child has been or may be harmed, call your local department of children and family services or you local police department.

For more information on preventing child abuse:

http://www.preventchildabuse.org/index.shtml

[Don_Joy's Prince 0]

Inside the Sex Offenders' House on Long Island

From New York magazine. Pretty interesting article on this subject.

What is so interesting at an attempt at a 'feel good' piece for monsters? The article is completely slanted sh!t made to either stir up pity for absolute monsters, OR to make everyone feel good about the prison system and how it 'rehabilitates'. For example:

Before his arrest, he was married, earned $45,000 a year at a technology company, and belonged to an Evangelical church. Then, in 1999, his wife accused him of molesting their 2-year-old daughter. According to Bill’s therapist, Bill was angry at his wife, and the abuse was driven by a desire to get back at her. He spent six years in prison. The crime is a topic Bill doesn’t talk about much; when pressed, he discusses it in oblique terms. “You look back in your past, and there’s always 100 different things you could’ve done differently or better,” he says. “I was very passive-aggressive.”

With wire glasses, salt-and-pepper hair, and a slight paunch, Bill has the look of a computer nerd.

That man molested his 2 year old daughter for crying out loud. And the writer isn't even being honest about it. Words like 'his wife accused him' instead of 'he molested his 2 year old' and a therapist's excuse? I'm sorry, but no amount of 'passive aggressive anger' justifies molesting your 2 year old child. And the bias on this article sickens me.

Look at how harmless Bill is! He's a nerd, everyone! He only diddled his toddler cos he was mad at his wife...so he's ok now everyone!

It makes me wretch to think there's some piece about molesters having a house rule list and fighting over who cleans the dishes. They're still monsters. You can't polish sh!t. Never can, never will.

Lisa that is absolutely beautiful. YOU ROCK!!!

Edited January 7, 2008 by Don_Joy's Prince

[natty bumppo 297]

Monsters yes - but still human beings.

...that are very dangerous to others, have no morals, no sense of what's right or wrong, and so they have no place in society

Saludos,

Caro

I don't think anyone's denying that. But "having no place in society" is open to degress of interpretation.

Good ... then they can live in your house ... your responsibility.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Monsters yes - but still human beings.

...that are very dangerous to others, have no morals, no sense of what's right or wrong, and so they have no place in society

Saludos,

Caro

I don't think anyone's denying that. But "having no place in society" is open to degress of interpretation.

Good ... then they can live in your house ... your responsibility.

Typical. What does that have anything to do with what I wrote?

[natty bumppo 297]

Monsters yes - but still human beings.

...that are very dangerous to others, have no morals, no sense of what's right or wrong, and so they have no place in society

Saludos,

Caro

I don't think anyone's denying that. But "having no place in society" is open to degress of interpretation.

Good ... then they can live in your house ... your responsibility.

Typical. What does that have anything to do with what I wrote?

Typical ... non answer ....

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Monsters yes - but still human beings.

...that are very dangerous to others, have no morals, no sense of what's right or wrong, and so they have no place in society

Saludos,

Caro

I don't think anyone's denying that. But "having no place in society" is open to degress of interpretation.

Good ... then they can live in your house ... your responsibility.

Typical. What does that have anything to do with what I wrote?

Typical ... non answer ....

Well there wasn't really a question there was there. How's about I ask you why it is that you don't run your own concentration camp so you can abuse/torture/kill the people you don't like? In other words

"Good... then you can kill them... your responsibility"

All I object to is the sadistic rhetoric, but if you want to defend that in lieu of actually having a point - then by all means go ahead. Personally I think it makes you look a bit of a #######.

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

Ways to Prevent Child Abuse

Be a nurturing parent.

Children need to know that they are special, loved and capable of following their dreams.

Help a friend, neighbor or relative.

Being a parent isn’t easy. Offer a helping hand take care of the children, so the parent(s) can rest or spend time together.

Help yourself.

When the big and little problems of your everyday life pile up to the point you feel

overwhelmed and out of control - take time out. Don’t take it out on your kid.

If your baby cries…

It can be frustrating to hear your baby cry. Learn what to do if your baby won’t stop

crying. Never shake a baby - shaking a child may result in severe injury or death.

Get involved.

Ask your community leaders, clergy, library and schools to develop services to meet the needs of healthy children and families.

Help to develop parenting resources at your local library.

Promote programs in school.

Teaching children, parents and teachers prevention strategies can help to keep children safe.

Monitor your child’s television and video viewing.

Watching violent films and TV programs can harm young children.

Volunteer at a local child abuse prevention program.

Report suspected abuse or neglect.

If you have reason to believe a child has been or may be harmed, call your local department of children and family services or you local police department.

For more information on preventing child abuse:

http://www.preventchildabuse.org/index.shtml

the only thing missing are cute kittens, unicorns, and gumdrops

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Ways to Prevent Child Abuse

Be a nurturing parent.

Children need to know that they are special, loved and capable of following their dreams.

Help a friend, neighbor or relative.

Being a parent isn’t easy. Offer a helping hand take care of the children, so the parent(s) can rest or spend time together.

Help yourself.

When the big and little problems of your everyday life pile up to the point you feel

overwhelmed and out of control - take time out. Don’t take it out on your kid.

If your baby cries…

It can be frustrating to hear your baby cry. Learn what to do if your baby won’t stop

crying. Never shake a baby - shaking a child may result in severe injury or death.

Get involved.

Ask your community leaders, clergy, library and schools to develop services to meet the needs of healthy children and families.

Help to develop parenting resources at your local library.

Promote programs in school.

Teaching children, parents and teachers prevention strategies can help to keep children safe.

Monitor your child’s television and video viewing.

Watching violent films and TV programs can harm young children.

Volunteer at a local child abuse prevention program.

Report suspected abuse or neglect.

If you have reason to believe a child has been or may be harmed, call your local department of children and family services or you local police department.

For more information on preventing child abuse:

http://www.preventchildabuse.org/index.shtml

the only thing missing are cute kittens, unicorns, and gumdrops

I suppose because you don't equate other forms of child abuse to the level of sexual abuse. Abuse is abuse and preventing child abuse requires a great amount of compassion on a community level towards families with children. Maybe not as exciting as posting threads about the abusers and what each person can fantasize about doing to them, but that's where real action takes place.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

What is child abuse?

Child abuse is any mistreatment or neglect of a child that results in non-accidental harm or injury and which cannot be reasonably explained . Child abuse can include: physical abuse, emotional abuse, sexual abuse and neglect.

How many children are reported and investigated for abuse or neglect?

In 2001, Child Protective Service (CPS) agencies investigated more than 3.25 million reports of child abuse and neglect throughout the United States. This is an increase of 2 percent from the previous year. Teachers, law enforcement officers, social service workers and physicians made 56 percent of the reports.

How Many children are victims of maltreatment?

In 2001, CPS agencies determined approximately 1.1 million children were victims of substantiated or indicated child abuse and neglect. The term "substantiated" means that an allegation of maltreatment was confirmed according to the level of evidence required by the State law or State policy. The term "indicated" is an investigation finding used by some States when there is insufficient evidence to substantiate a case under State law or policy, but there is reason to suspect that maltreatment occurred or that there is risk of future maltreatment.

Is the number of abused or neglected children increasing?

Nationally, the number of victims of substantiated or indicated maltreatment decreased between 1996 and 1997, from slightly over one million (1,030,751) to just under one million (984,000) Previously, the rate of maltreatment had been on the increase between 1990 and 1996, with an overall increase for that period of 18 percent.

What are the most common types of maltreatment?

Neglect is the most common form of child maltreatment. CPS investigations determine that 63 percent of victims in 2001 suffered neglect; 19 percent, physical abuse; 10 percent, sexual abuse; and 8 percent, emotional maltreatment.

How many children die each year from child abuse?

Based on data reported by CPS agencies in 2001, it is estimated that nationwide, 2,000 children died as a result of abuse or neglect. based on this number, five to six children die each day as a result of child abuse or neglect. Of these fatalities, 85 percent were children younger than six-years-old at the time of their death, and 44 percent were under the age of one.

Who abuses and neglects children?

In 2001, 60 percent of the perpetrators were female with an average age of 31, and 40 percent were male with an average age of 34.

Approximately 84 percent were abused by a parent; Mothers alone were responsible for 47 percent of neglect and 32 percent of the physical abuse.

More than half of all victim were White, 51%; 28% were African American; 18% were Hispanic; 2 % were American Indian/Alaska Natives; and 1% were Asian/Pacific Islanders.

What makes people abuse children?

It is difficult to imagine that any person would intentionally inflict harm on a child. Many times, physical abuse is a result of excessive discipline or physical punishment that is inappropriate for the child's age. The parent may simply be unaware of the magnitude of force with which he or she strikes a child. Most parents want to be good parents but sometimes lose control and are unable to cope.

Factors which contribute to child abuse include the immaturity of parents, lack of parenting skills, unrealistic expectations about children's behavior and capabilities, a parent's own negative childhood experience, social isolation, frequent family crises and drug or alcohol problems. Child abuse is a symptom that parents are having difficulty coping with their situation.

Are victims of child abuse more likely to engage in criminality later in life?

According to a 1992 study sponsored by the National Institute of Justice (NIJ), maltreatment in childhood increases the likelihood of arrest as a juvenile by 53 percent, as an adult by 38 percent, and for a violent crime by 38 percent. Being abused or neglected in childhood increases the likelihood of arrest for females by 77 percent. A related 1995 NIJ report indicated that children who were sexually abuse were 28 times more likely than a control group of nonabused children to be arrested for prostitution as an adult.

Is there any evidence linking alcohol or other drug use to child maltreatment?

A study by the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse found that children of substance-abusing parents were almost three times likelier to be abused and more than four times likelier to be neglected than children of parents who are not substance abusers. Other studies suggest that an estimated 50 percent to 80 percent of all child abuse cases substantiated by CPS involve some degree of substance abuse by the child's parents.

http://preventchildabuse.com/abuse.htm