One more police certificate question - UK

[latteberry 1]

Hey wait just a minute! When you asked back in January no one here even knew about the ACPO form. The ACPO instructions came in to effect only last month - approximately February 15th.

I understand your frustration but everyone who posted on this thread back in January gave you correct information.

So why does someone already in process have to go through this again? I could understand a new application, but they've had our packet for a while now.

[bakofoil 27]

Hey wait just a minute! When you asked back in January no one here even knew about the ACPO form. The ACPO instructions came in to effect only last month - approximately February 15th.

I understand your frustration but everyone who posted on this thread back in January gave you correct information.

So why does someone already in process have to go through this again? I could understand a new application, but they've had our packet for a while now.

Ok, what is unclear right now to me is who rejected your police certificate. The fact is, since they changed the rules on this in February, there is an awful lot of confusion on whether the old certificate is acceptable or not. It seems a little harsh of them to reject yours within the timeframe that London are quoting the old one will still be acceptable for.

Can you fill us in on some info about who rejected it exactly. Was this at interview? I recently went through interview in London and had no problems with presenting the old certificate. It is best we get this straightened out so we don't unnecessarily panic other members.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Hmmmm... I'm trying to piece this together from your posts. I'm wondering if this is because you're doing an IR1/CR1 through the NVC -- if I'm not mistaken, unlike the K1s and the DCF folk, you send your police certificate off first to the NVC? (K1s and DCFers just have to bring them to the interview.) Perhaps the NVC is taking a harder line than the Embassy about the validity of the old-form police certificates (which is still puzzling, but looks like they *might* be accepting them until August 15th), and requiring the ACPO certificates without exception.

The other thing is you say your husband applied for the certificate last spring -- is it nearing a year since he received it? If so, they might want one with a longer validity, so that it would be definitely still current at the time of interview (which, of course, you don't know the date of yet).

Just a few thoughts. Sorry you've hit this bump in the road; when you asked earlier this year, none of us had a clue about ACPO certificates, as babbles points out. But it is quite fast to get one, so hang in there!

[latteberry 1]

Hey wait just a minute! When you asked back in January no one here even knew about the ACPO form. The ACPO instructions came in to effect only last month - approximately February 15th.

I understand your frustration but everyone who posted on this thread back in January gave you correct information.

So why does someone already in process have to go through this again? I could understand a new application, but they've had our packet for a while now.

Ok, what is unclear right now to me is who rejected your police certificate. The fact is, since they changed the rules on this in February, there is an awful lot of confusion on whether the old certificate is acceptable or not. It seems a little harsh of them to reject yours within the timeframe that London are quoting the old one will still be acceptable for.

Can you fill us in on some info about who rejected it exactly. Was this at interview? I recently went through interview in London and had no problems with presenting the old certificate. It is best we get this straightened out so we don't unnecessarily panic other members.

I got the info from the girl on the phone at the NVC. They sent out a request for this on the 12th. I haven't received it yet.

[bakofoil 27]

Hmmmm... I'm trying to piece this together from your posts. I'm wondering if this is because you're doing an IR1/CR1 through the NVC -- if I'm not mistaken, unlike the K1s and the DCF folk, you send your police certificate off first to the NVC? (K1s and DCFers just have to bring them to the interview.) Perhaps the NVC is taking a harder line than the Embassy about the validity of the old-form police certificates (which is still puzzling, but looks like they *might* be accepting them until August 15th), and requiring the ACPO certificates without exception.

The other thing is you say your husband applied for the certificate last spring -- is it nearing a year since he received it? If so, they might want one with a longer validity, so that it would be definitely still current at the time of interview (which, of course, you don't know the date of yet).

Just a few thoughts. Sorry you've hit this bump in the road; when you asked earlier this year, none of us had a clue about ACPO certificates, as babbles points out. But it is quite fast to get one, so hang in there!

I'm not aware of the process for IR1/CR1 so this post is exceptionally helpful. We really could do with having some definitive answers on this. It is certainly not fair that the old certificate should be acceptable for one type of visa and not another. Seems like there are some differences in non-immigrant and immigrant visa application rules on this too. Utterly confusing.

Fortunately, as you say, the ACPO one has a quick turnaround.

[bakofoil 27]

I got the info from the girl on the phone at the NVC. They sent out a request for this on the 12th. I haven't received it yet.

Ok thanks. I am really sorry you're facing this #######. Unfortunately, because you've hit the cusp of an introduction of a rule change you've ended up suffering for everyone's lack of knowledge on this - although the info you got on this thread WAS correct at the time of posting.

Frankly, the embassy site instructions don't seem to recognise their ####### from their elbow - it states you need the ACPO certificate and that it costs £10. Unfortunately at the moment we are relying on a lot of anecdotal evidence right now but I can assure no one here wants to delay your process. Perhaps, you could send off for the ACPO form right away, in the meantime you can still try challenging NVC since the London embassy site is very unclear on this but states a cooling off period on the old form of six months from the introduction of the ACPO. This info has been extracted from various sections of the embassy site. It's terribly unclear.

Please keep us updated because this is helpful to others.

Edited March 20, 2008 by babblesgirl

[latteberry 1]

I got the info from the girl on the phone at the NVC. They sent out a request for this on the 12th. I haven't received it yet.

Ok thanks. I am really sorry you're facing this #######. Unfortunately, because you've hit the cusp of an introduction of a rule change you've ended up suffering for everyone's lack of knowledge on this - although the info you got on this thread WAS correct at the time of posting.

Frankly, the embassy site instructions don't seem to recognise their ####### from their elbow - it states you need the ACPO certificate and that it costs £10. Unfortunately at the moment we are relying on a lot of anecdotal evidence right now but I can assure no one here wants to delay your process. Perhaps, you could send off for the ACPO form right away, in the meantime you can still try challenging NVC since the London embassy site is very unclear on this but states a cooling off period on the old form of six months from the introduction of the ACPO. This info has been extracted from various sections of the embassy site. It's terribly unclear.

Please keep us updated because this is helpful to others.

I will keep you guys posted...though I broke one keyboard and the mouse is on its last legs after I threw it against the wall.

[latteberry 1]

OK, I just talked with Layla, a supervisor. She is going to request the file and talk with her manager, and I am to call her Monday. According to her computer screen, the old version of the form is supposed to be acceptable at the NVC through 15 APRIL 2008. And the forms are good for a year (mine was dated 12 May 2007, so should be still valid on both accounts). I don't have a problem with ordering a new ACPO one to bring to the interview, but to have the process held up at the NVC for a reason that is NOT valid is uncool.

[bakofoil 27]

Is it ok to give you a hug now?

I agree about the unfairness of this. Hang in there. They probably haven't had much dealing with this as yet. Your case may well help them get informed, which can only help others.

[latteberry 1]

Is it ok to give you a hug now?

I agree about the unfairness of this. Hang in there. They probably haven't had much dealing with this as yet. Your case may well help them get informed, which can only help others.

Yes, I did need a huge hug. I am glad DH was home because he knew I am not the keyboard-throwing type. LOL I had a total hysterical breakdown. But, being the wonderful Englishman that he is, he cuddled me while I was sobbing.

Sorry I got a little pissy. It's definitely not anyone's fault here. I've just had more than I can take recently and this was the last straw.

[bakofoil 27]

Is it ok to give you a hug now?

I agree about the unfairness of this. Hang in there. They probably haven't had much dealing with this as yet. Your case may well help them get informed, which can only help others.

Yes, I did need a huge hug. I am glad DH was home because he knew I am not the keyboard-throwing type. LOL I had a total hysterical breakdown. But, being the wonderful Englishman that he is, he cuddled me while I was sobbing.

Sorry I got a little pissy. It's definitely not anyone's fault here. I've just had more than I can take recently and this was the last straw.

Totally understand!! This situation over police certificates really sucks. I'll keep my fingers crossed you get the right result here. Good luck! and I don't normally do this, so don't tell anyone:

*HUGS*

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

ssssshhhhh.... Can I also (very discreetly, mind you) offer a few hugs too?

Yes? Okay then: HUGS!

We're pulling for you, latteberry!

[bakofoil 27]

I saw that!

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

I saw that!

[Almoto 0]

Oh, please don't tell me that the police certificate that we got last March is not valid as we are finally at the stage of waiting on our interview date in London for the K-3 & I just sent in my I-864 & DS-230 on my I-130. I have all my husband's court records corresponding to the police cert. dated 3/13/07.

Should I apply for this new ACPO right now?