New processing times - is the USCIS lying?

[NickD 202]

I am also unlucky and my case was not moved to CSC . I have no luck with USCIS. I gave up calling them after last unpleasant conversation I had.

This is where the USCIS has put us between the frying pan and the fire by not specifying which service center our cases are at.

If you are in the Nebraska district, but them posting that date of July 05, 2007, twice now, it can be assumed that your case is still there, and since Jan.31, 2007 is well after that date, you have no recourse but to wait according to some USCIS officers and even what they say on their answer line. But if in California with a processing date of September 17, 2007, you have a right to make an inquiry.

But the thing is, you just don't know where your case is at!!!

My wife's friend, also at Nebraska is seven months ahead of us, when it got down to the bare bones, she made an appointment at her nearest field office only to learn her file was lost in the shuffle. She had to make a return trip and bring duplicates of everything she sent it, also good to have your canceled check as proof. She was treated nice and had her green card rushed through. It is very well possible your case file was lost, but can't do anything about it until the last minute.

There is no reason why some of these officers should get so nasty, were you nice on the phone?

[James 2]

Congratulations to everyone getting that email!! Where is ours??? We filed before many of you guys getting notice of card production ordered. Right about now I'm thinking we'll be tagged for an interview. Not that it's a problem, we've been together since 2003, it's just the hassle and annoyance of the whole process. A day off from work and all that again. We sent plenty of evidence. I guess we're just one of the unlucky ones.....

Your not alone, I haven't heard anything either. No transfer email, nothing. I called today to try to find out where my file is. I got the most unpleasant person on the line that absolutely refused to let me talk to an IO. Told me I should be patient.

My NOA is Jan.31, 2007 (Nebraska) and my case was last touched on March 11, 2007- Over a year ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am also unlucky and my case was not moved to CSC . I have no luck with USCIS. I gave up calling them after last unpleasant conversation I had.

Take care everybody and congratulations for the lucky people who have their 10 year GC in their hand.

danutuke

IMHO, you should not fret too much, because if you haven't been already, you all are being or will shortly be transferred to CSC.

I know most of you have not been following what happened when TSC began transferring all of its old, early 2007 I-751s to VSC in February, but it's worth noting that there were a bunch of the mass TSC-VSC people who did not get the "received and pending" email until 9 days after the first bunch got that email. That is, a lot of us got the email on 2/13, but a number of people didn't get it until 2/22. Then there were a small handful of people -- generally, the most recently filed of the old petitions, from June 2007 -- who did not even get that email until last week.

I am pretty sure this is what's happening here. Indeed, the person with longest-pending petition of the transferees was among those who didn't receive the "received and pending" email until the second blast was sent 9 days later (and that person has since been approved).

I should note that there were a couple of the very oldest petitions that were never transferred. I don't know what happened to those folks.

[danutuke 0]

I must admit that most of the times custoemr service at USCIS was very professional although they did not have any information for me.

Once I was told that things happen and cases get lost. She said it is a human error......... I wish I could tell this line to me boss at work

I am always nice on the phone because I do hope they record these conversations, but my last call was nothing but nice. Guy was ignorant and hung up on me.

danutuke

[Ruairi 0]

I have to say, all my dealings over the phone with the USCIS have been more than pleasant. I was shocked when a lady asked me how my day was going the last time and of course I responded in kind. Of course they always didn't have the information I was looking for.

[MDZJ 0]

This is where the USCIS has put us between the frying pan and the fire by not specifying which service center our cases are at.

If you are in the Nebraska district, but them posting that date of July 05, 2007, twice now, it can be assumed that your case is still there, and since Jan.31, 2007 is well after that date, you have no recourse but to wait according to some USCIS officers and even what they say on their answer line. But if in California with a processing date of September 17, 2007, you have a right to make an inquiry.

But the thing is, you just don't know where your case is at!!!

My wife's friend, also at Nebraska is seven months ahead of us, when it got down to the bare bones, she made an appointment at her nearest field office only to learn her file was lost in the shuffle. She had to make a return trip and bring duplicates of everything she sent it, also good to have your canceled check as proof. She was treated nice and had her green card rushed through. It is very well possible your case file was lost, but can't do anything about it until the last minute.

There is no reason why some of these officers should get so nasty, were you nice on the phone?

I am trying not to be paranoid. But because USCIS has not been straightforward with us this whole time, how do we know if one's case is really TRANSFERRED rather than "LOST" in the shuffle? I got the transfer email but nothing has happened to my case so far (NOA 1/25/07). Bringing copies of original application is almost impossible for me because I didn't make copies. I have both the congresswoman and sentor's offices sent inquiries. The Ombudsman rejected my complaint. Thinking of calling the customer service again today.

[Cassie 8]

This is where the USCIS has put us between the frying pan and the fire by not specifying which service center our cases are at.

If you are in the Nebraska district, but them posting that date of July 05, 2007, twice now, it can be assumed that your case is still there, and since Jan.31, 2007 is well after that date, you have no recourse but to wait according to some USCIS officers and even what they say on their answer line. But if in California with a processing date of September 17, 2007, you have a right to make an inquiry.

But the thing is, you just don't know where your case is at!!!

My wife's friend, also at Nebraska is seven months ahead of us, when it got down to the bare bones, she made an appointment at her nearest field office only to learn her file was lost in the shuffle. She had to make a return trip and bring duplicates of everything she sent it, also good to have your canceled check as proof. She was treated nice and had her green card rushed through. It is very well possible your case file was lost, but can't do anything about it until the last minute.

There is no reason why some of these officers should get so nasty, were you nice on the phone?

I am trying not to be paranoid. But because USCIS has not been straightforward with us this whole time, how do we know if one's case is really TRANSFERRED rather than "LOST" in the shuffle? I got the transfer email but nothing has happened to my case so far (NOA 1/25/07). Bringing copies of original application is almost impossible for me because I didn't make copies. I have both the congresswoman and sentor's offices sent inquiries. The Ombudsman rejected my complaint. Thinking of calling the customer service again today.

Because you have the experience of a whole group of people who have already gone through a transfer to lean on. It took them a while to confirm that yes indeed, we were transferred to VSC by email, then a while longer to get paper confirmation in the mail, and then about a month after that before we saw transferrees getting approvals. give some time to let the dust clear and see what happens.

[James 2]

This is where the USCIS has put us between the frying pan and the fire by not specifying which service center our cases are at.

If you are in the Nebraska district, but them posting that date of July 05, 2007, twice now, it can be assumed that your case is still there, and since Jan.31, 2007 is well after that date, you have no recourse but to wait according to some USCIS officers and even what they say on their answer line. But if in California with a processing date of September 17, 2007, you have a right to make an inquiry.

But the thing is, you just don't know where your case is at!!!

My wife's friend, also at Nebraska is seven months ahead of us, when it got down to the bare bones, she made an appointment at her nearest field office only to learn her file was lost in the shuffle. She had to make a return trip and bring duplicates of everything she sent it, also good to have your canceled check as proof. She was treated nice and had her green card rushed through. It is very well possible your case file was lost, but can't do anything about it until the last minute.

There is no reason why some of these officers should get so nasty, were you nice on the phone?

I am trying not to be paranoid. But because USCIS has not been straightforward with us this whole time, how do we know if one's case is really TRANSFERRED rather than "LOST" in the shuffle? I got the transfer email but nothing has happened to my case so far (NOA 1/25/07). Bringing copies of original application is almost impossible for me because I didn't make copies. I have both the congresswoman and sentor's offices sent inquiries. The Ombudsman rejected my complaint. Thinking of calling the customer service again today.

Because you have the experience of a whole group of people who have already gone through a transfer to lean on. It took them a while to confirm that yes indeed, we were transferred to VSC by email, then a while longer to get paper confirmation in the mail, and then about a month after that before we saw transferrees getting approvals. give some time to let the dust clear and see what happens.

I don't know why, but a lot of the people on this thread seem hell-bent on ignoring our experience.

[MDZJ 0]

This is where the USCIS has put us between the frying pan and the fire by not specifying which service center our cases are at.

If you are in the Nebraska district, but them posting that date of July 05, 2007, twice now, it can be assumed that your case is still there, and since Jan.31, 2007 is well after that date, you have no recourse but to wait according to some USCIS officers and even what they say on their answer line. But if in California with a processing date of September 17, 2007, you have a right to make an inquiry.

But the thing is, you just don't know where your case is at!!!

My wife's friend, also at Nebraska is seven months ahead of us, when it got down to the bare bones, she made an appointment at her nearest field office only to learn her file was lost in the shuffle. She had to make a return trip and bring duplicates of everything she sent it, also good to have your canceled check as proof. She was treated nice and had her green card rushed through. It is very well possible your case file was lost, but can't do anything about it until the last minute.

There is no reason why some of these officers should get so nasty, were you nice on the phone?

I am trying not to be paranoid. But because USCIS has not been straightforward with us this whole time, how do we know if one's case is really TRANSFERRED rather than "LOST" in the shuffle? I got the transfer email but nothing has happened to my case so far (NOA 1/25/07). Bringing copies of original application is almost impossible for me because I didn't make copies. I have both the congresswoman and sentor's offices sent inquiries. The Ombudsman rejected my complaint. Thinking of calling the customer service again today.

Because you have the experience of a whole group of people who have already gone through a transfer to lean on. It took them a while to confirm that yes indeed, we were transferred to VSC by email, then a while longer to get paper confirmation in the mail, and then about a month after that before we saw transferrees getting approvals. give some time to let the dust clear and see what happens.

I don't know why, but a lot of the people on this thread seem hell-bent on ignoring our experience.

Not that I don't trust you. Don't take it personally. But VSC and CSC are still different service centers under different directors. I won't believe anything until I see the GC in my hand.

[James 2]

This is where the USCIS has put us between the frying pan and the fire by not specifying which service center our cases are at.

If you are in the Nebraska district, but them posting that date of July 05, 2007, twice now, it can be assumed that your case is still there, and since Jan.31, 2007 is well after that date, you have no recourse but to wait according to some USCIS officers and even what they say on their answer line. But if in California with a processing date of September 17, 2007, you have a right to make an inquiry.

But the thing is, you just don't know where your case is at!!!

My wife's friend, also at Nebraska is seven months ahead of us, when it got down to the bare bones, she made an appointment at her nearest field office only to learn her file was lost in the shuffle. She had to make a return trip and bring duplicates of everything she sent it, also good to have your canceled check as proof. She was treated nice and had her green card rushed through. It is very well possible your case file was lost, but can't do anything about it until the last minute.

There is no reason why some of these officers should get so nasty, were you nice on the phone?

I am trying not to be paranoid. But because USCIS has not been straightforward with us this whole time, how do we know if one's case is really TRANSFERRED rather than "LOST" in the shuffle? I got the transfer email but nothing has happened to my case so far (NOA 1/25/07). Bringing copies of original application is almost impossible for me because I didn't make copies. I have both the congresswoman and sentor's offices sent inquiries. The Ombudsman rejected my complaint. Thinking of calling the customer service again today.

Because you have the experience of a whole group of people who have already gone through a transfer to lean on. It took them a while to confirm that yes indeed, we were transferred to VSC by email, then a while longer to get paper confirmation in the mail, and then about a month after that before we saw transferrees getting approvals. give some time to let the dust clear and see what happens.

I don't know why, but a lot of the people on this thread seem hell-bent on ignoring our experience.

Not that I don't trust you. Don't take it personally. But VSC and CSC are still different service centers under different directors. I won't believe anything until I see the GC in my hand.

Believe me, I would much rather be in your shoes as far as where I'm being transferred goes. CSC is notoriously fast and loose with their approvals.

[seaflower 0]

Well this is what they have today on their page USCIS:

On Friday, April 11, 2008, at 9:30 to 10:30 AM EDT, certain USCIS web-based systems will be taken out of service for maintenance

so probably on monday we will know for sure if our cases were transferred to CAL or VSC since they are going to pdate the information and probably rearrange those I-751 by date the way it is supposed to be first come-first go

[Cassie 8]

Well this is what they have today on their page USCIS:

On Friday, April 11, 2008, at 9:30 to 10:30 AM EDT, certain USCIS web-based systems will be taken out of service for maintenance

so probably on monday we will know for sure if our cases were transferred to CAL or VSC since they are going to pdate the information and probably rearrange those I-751 by date the way it is supposed to be first come-first go

seeing how they are approving our transfer list all over the place, I highly doubt it! Methinks that is wishful thinking but I am willing to be proven wrong!

[MDZJ 0]

Well this is what they have today on their page USCIS:

On Friday, April 11, 2008, at 9:30 to 10:30 AM EDT, certain USCIS web-based systems will be taken out of service for maintenance

so probably on monday we will know for sure if our cases were transferred to CAL or VSC since they are going to pdate the information and probably rearrange those I-751 by date the way it is supposed to be first come-first go

seeing how they are approving our transfer list all over the place, I highly doubt it! Methinks that is wishful thinking but I am willing to be proven wrong!

haha, that shows how desperate they made us. To me, maintenance means software update. Nothing more. They just need to change a field in their database to mark all of us APPROVED!

[seaflower 0]

They can't do that because an immigration officer has to see the case first then approve it, I don't know how they order the card, if they check a box in their system or they go to another system,

By the way did anyone get approved to day I mean it should be around 11:00 Am now in california they should have approved some applications, Also another question does anyone know their hours like are they 8 to 5 or 7 to 4 or....

[NickD 202]

I love reading this:

"When Should I File the Form I-751?

1. Filing jointly. If you are filing this petition jointly with your spouse, you must file it during the 90 days immediately before the second anniversary of the date you were accorded conditional resident status. This is the date your conditional residence expires."

But exactly what does this mean?

"2. Filing with a request that the joint filing requirement be waived. You may file this petition at any time after you are granted conditional resident status and before you are removed."

Does that mean we could have filed the day after our spouse received her green card giving the USCIS time to process the I-751? And if so, how does one get this waiver? Should have read that more carefully over three years ago. And exactly what do they mean by you are removed?

Did anyone here marry just to bring an alien into this country? If you did, "If you knowingly and willfully falsify or conceal a material fact or submit a false document with this Form I-751, we will deny the Form I-751 and may deny any other immigration benefit. In addition, you will face severe penalties provided by law and may be subject to criminal prosecution." Plus you are making life stressful for the rest of us.

If the USCIS should remove your spouse for any other reason, do they replace that spouse with one of equal or higher value? Mine is priceless, hope yours is too.

[STBM04 0]

Approved today!!! Card production ordered!!!

List of I-751 to NSC, after the last known approval in 2007 (NOA 06-Dec-06)

and before the first known transfer to CSC in 2007 (NOA 05-Aug-07), ordered by date on NOA

UserName...........Date of I-751.....Date on NOA...Biometrics......Approved.....RFE, Service Request, etc.

haozi101...........11/27/06..........12/06/06......01/03/07........09/14/07.....

Bertrand...........12/19/06..........12/27/06......01/20/07........01/29/08.....N-400

sandeepb...........12/26/06..........01/04/07......02/05/07........03/31/08.....I-551 stamp for 12 months, service request, N-400

coloradogirl.......12/27/06..........01/04/07......01/30/07........--/--/--.....

echostorm..........12/--/06..........01/05/07......02/16/07........--/--/--.....

mew5280(CAPG)......01/06/07..........01/16/07......02/15/07........03/20/08.....I-551 stamp for 6 months, interview, verbal approval

jennybirgitta......01/13/07..........01/18/07......02/14/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 6 months, service request, congressman, N-400

traversm...........01/14/07..........01/18/07......02/14/07........--/--/--.....

MDandZJ............01/21/07..........01/25/07......02/14/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months, senator

Ruari..............--/--/--..........01/25/07......02/23/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months, congressman

ron&nadine.........01/07/07..........01/22/07......02/27/07........--/--/--.....

firebrand..........--/--/--..........01/26/07......02/22/07........03/25/08.....N-400, GC arrived 03/27/08

colonelc22.........01/13/07..........01/27/07......03/14/07........04/08/08.....I-551 stamp for 12 months, Service Request, congressman, N-400

dee................01/25/07..........01/29/07......02/20/07........04/07/08.....

Peter T............01/27/07..........02/01/07......03/09/07........04/07/08.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

drawbridgep........01/11/07..........02/02/07......02/15/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

danutuke...........01/29/07..........01/31/07......03/06/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 2 months, Service Request, N-400

Illinois77.........01/31/07..........02/02/07......03/02/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

chus...............01/26/07..........02/03/07......02/23/07........--/--/--.....

STBM04.............01/31/07..........02/05/07......03/02/07........04/10/08.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

ives_damian........01/31/07..........02/06/07......03/12/07........--/--/--.....

winterpassing......02/06/07..........02/12/07......03/09/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

MonicaT............02/08/07..........02/14/07......03/10/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

iansig40...........02/02/07..........02/16/07......03/23/07........03/17/08.....

grenoble38.........02/01/07..........02/20/07......03/03/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

Illinois...........02/19/07..........02/23/07......04/18/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

onur ............. 06/26/06..........03/15/07......04/13/07........--/--/--.....

Tammi..............02/23/07..........03/23/07......04/05/07........--/--/--.....

decharte...........02/28/07..........03/26/07......04/10/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

ace13..............03/22/07..........03/27/07......04/17/07........--/--/--.....

NickD..............03/27/07..........04/--/07......05/01/07........--/--/--.....congressman, senator, Ombudsman

Lyuba..............--/--/--..........04/17/07......05/07/07........--/--/--.....

gyuwono............04/17/07..........04/20/07......05/18/07........--/--/--.....

Kearinne...........04/09/07..........04/30/07......06/02/07........--/--/--.....

charlie & yeng.....4/27/07(resubm.)..05/01/07......06/02/07........--/--/--.....

Frances............04/02/07..........05/05/07......05/24/07........--/--/--.....

Kanadka............05/12/23..........05/23/07......06/11/07........--/--/--.....

Badgerbabe.........05/10/07..........05/24/07......06/11/07........--/--/--.....

debeselizz.........05/24/07..........05/31/07......06/21/07........--/--/--.....

nitty66............05/25/07..........05/31/07......06/27/07........--/--/--.....

sandy2000..........06/--/07..........06/12/07......07/13/07........--/--/--.....

lizmissy...........--/--/--..........06/14/07......07/12/07........03/18/08.....interview, daughter also processed

laura19angel.......--/--/--..........06/15/07......07/13/07........--/--/--.....

seaflower..........06/12/07..........06/22/07......07/12/07........--/--/--.....

pkmk...............06/18/07..........07/02/07......07/13/07........--/--/--.....

wifiman............06/29/07..........08/05/07......08/15/07........08/25/07.....NSC > CSC

NSC claimed accomplishments for processing I-751s:

Posting date......Processing timeframe

12/14/07..........02/09/07

01/15/08..........02/10/07

02/15/08..........07/05/06 (yes, they went backwards)

03/15/08..........07/05/06

If you're not in the list but should be, please add yourself or post your data separately in the thread. If you're on the list, please check your data for correctness. Important: If you are on the list and get approved, we would like to know it - please write a posting in this thread.