New processing times - is the USCIS lying?

[Peter T 0]

Added decharte, and posted table by clicking on "AddReply" (instead of replying to last table).

List of I-751 to NSC, ordered by date on NOA, after the last known approval in 2007 (NOA 06-Dec-06)

and before the first known transfer to CSC (NOA 05-Aug-07)

Names ordered by date on NOA instead of date of I-751, because NOA is the date relevant to USCIS.

UserName...........Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date.....Biometrics......Approved.....RFE, Service Request, etc.

haozi101...........11/27/06..........12/06/06......01/03/07........09/14/07.....

Bertrand...........12/19/06..........12/27/06......01/20/07........01/29/08.....N-400

sandeepb...........12/26/06..........01/04/07......02/05/07........--/--/--.....service request, N-400

coloradogirl.......12/27/06..........01/04/07......01/30/07........--/--/--.....

echostorm..........12/--/06..........01/05/07......02/16/07........--/--/--.....

CAPG...............01/06/07..........01/16/07......02/15/07........--/--/--.....

jennybirgitta......01/13/07..........01/18/07......02/14/07........--/--/--.....service request, congressman, N-400

traversm...........01/14/07..........01/18/07......02/14/07........--/--/--.....

MDandZJ............01/21/07..........01/25/07......02/14/07........--/--/--.....

Ruari..............--/--/--..........01/25/07......02/23/07........--/--/--.....congressman

ron&nadine.........01/07/07..........01/22/07......02/27/07........--/--/--.....

dee................01/25/07..........01/29/07......02/20/07........--/--/--.....

Peter T............01/27/07..........02/01/07......03/09/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

drawbridgep........01/11/07..........02/02/07......02/15/07........--/--/--.....

Illinois77.........01/31/07..........02/02/07......03/02/07........--/--/--.....

chus...............01/26/07..........02/03/07......02/23/07........--/--/--.....

STBM04.............01/31/07..........02/05/07......03/02/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

ives_damian........01/31/07..........02/06/07......03/12/07........--/--/--.....

winterpassing......02/06/07..........02/12/07......03/09/07........--/--/--.....

MonicaT............02/08/07..........02/14/07......03/10/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

grenoble38.........02/01/07..........02/20/07......03/03/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

Illinois...........02/19/07..........02/23/07......04/18/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

onur ............. 06/26/06..........03/15/07......04/13/07........--/--/--.....

Tammi..............02/23/07..........03/23/07......04/05/07........--/--/--.....

decharte...........02/28/07..........03/26/07......04/10/07........--/--/--.....

ace13..............03/22/07..........03/27/07......04/17/07........--/--/--.....

Lyuba..............--/--/--..........04/17/07......05/07/07........--/--/--.....

gyuwono............04/17/07..........04/20/07......05/18/07........--/--/--.....

Kearinne...........04/09/07..........04/30/07......06/02/07........--/--/--.....

charlie & yeng.....4/27/07(resubm.)..05/01/07......06/02/07........--/--/--.....

Frances............04/02/07..........05/05/07......05/24/07........--/--/--.....

Kanadka............05/12/23..........05/23/07......06/11/07........--/--/--.....

Badgerbabe.........05/10/07..........05/24/07......06/11/07........--/--/--.....

debeselizz.........05/24/07..........05/31/07......06/21/07........--/--/--.....

sandy2000..........06/--/07..........06/12/07......07/13/07........--/--/--.....

laura19angel.......--/--/--..........06/15/07......07/13/07........--/--/--.....

pkmk...............06/18/07..........07/02/07......07/13/07........--/--/--.....

wifiman............06/29/07..........08/05/07......08/15/07........08/25/07..... NSC > CSC

NSC claimed accomplishments for processing I-751s:

Posting date......Processing timeframe

12/14/07..........02/09/07

01/15/08..........02/10/07

02/15/08..........07/05/06 (yes, they went backwards)

Please check your data for correctness.

[Peter T 0]

Peter, Could you please re-post the list you updated yesterday, as its own response under the original post? I can see it when I tried to add Declan's dates, but it does not show up on the thread. It might even be better to have one area of the thread which is only for updated lists as info comes in?

I don't understand the technical problem that you are describing, but I have re-posted the table by clicking on the AddReply button instead of the reply-button of the last table. Does it work for you now?

[iansig40 1]

Added decharte, and posted table by clicking on "AddReply" (instead of replying to last table).

List of I-751 to NSC, ordered by date on NOA, after the last known approval in 2007 (NOA 06-Dec-06)

and before the first known transfer to CSC (NOA 05-Aug-07)

Names ordered by date on NOA instead of date of I-751, because NOA is the date relevant to USCIS.

UserName...........Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date.....Biometrics......Approved.....RFE, Service Request, etc.

haozi101...........11/27/06..........12/06/06......01/03/07........09/14/07.....

Bertrand...........12/19/06..........12/27/06......01/20/07........01/29/08.....N-400

sandeepb...........12/26/06..........01/04/07......02/05/07........--/--/--.....service request, N-400

coloradogirl.......12/27/06..........01/04/07......01/30/07........--/--/--.....

echostorm..........12/--/06..........01/05/07......02/16/07........--/--/--.....

CAPG...............01/06/07..........01/16/07......02/15/07........--/--/--.....

jennybirgitta......01/13/07..........01/18/07......02/14/07........--/--/--.....service request, congressman, N-400

traversm...........01/14/07..........01/18/07......02/14/07........--/--/--.....

MDandZJ............01/21/07..........01/25/07......02/14/07........--/--/--.....

Ruari..............--/--/--..........01/25/07......02/23/07........--/--/--.....congressman

ron&nadine.........01/07/07..........01/22/07......02/27/07........--/--/--.....

dee................01/25/07..........01/29/07......02/20/07........--/--/--.....

Peter T............01/27/07..........02/01/07......03/09/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

drawbridgep........01/11/07..........02/02/07......02/15/07........--/--/--.....

Illinois77.........01/31/07..........02/02/07......03/02/07........--/--/--.....

chus...............01/26/07..........02/03/07......02/23/07........--/--/--.....

STBM04.............01/31/07..........02/05/07......03/02/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

ives_damian........01/31/07..........02/06/07......03/12/07........--/--/--.....

winterpassing......02/06/07..........02/12/07......03/09/07........--/--/--.....

MonicaT............02/08/07..........02/14/07......03/10/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

grenoble38.........02/01/07..........02/20/07......03/03/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

Illinois...........02/19/07..........02/23/07......04/18/07........--/--/--.....I-551 stamp for 12 months

onur ............. 06/26/06..........03/15/07......04/13/07........--/--/--.....

Tammi..............02/23/07..........03/23/07......04/05/07........--/--/--.....

decharte...........02/28/07..........03/26/07......04/10/07........--/--/--.....

ace13..............03/22/07..........03/27/07......04/17/07........--/--/--.....

Lyuba..............--/--/--..........04/17/07......05/07/07........--/--/--.....

gyuwono............04/17/07..........04/20/07......05/18/07........--/--/--.....

Kearinne...........04/09/07..........04/30/07......06/02/07........--/--/--.....

charlie & yeng.....4/27/07(resubm.)..05/01/07......06/02/07........--/--/--.....

Frances............04/02/07..........05/05/07......05/24/07........--/--/--.....

Kanadka............05/12/23..........05/23/07......06/11/07........--/--/--.....

Badgerbabe.........05/10/07..........05/24/07......06/11/07........--/--/--.....

debeselizz.........05/24/07..........05/31/07......06/21/07........--/--/--.....

sandy2000..........06/--/07..........06/12/07......07/13/07........--/--/--.....

laura19angel.......--/--/--..........06/15/07......07/13/07........--/--/--.....

pkmk...............06/18/07..........07/02/07......07/13/07........--/--/--.....

wifiman............06/29/07..........08/05/07......08/15/07........08/25/07..... NSC > CSC

NSC claimed accomplishments for processing I-751s:

Posting date......Processing timeframe

12/14/07..........02/09/07

01/15/08..........02/10/07

02/15/08..........07/05/06 (yes, they went backwards)

Please check your data for correctness.

For those of you who wants to know more about your application status here is the phone number

Nebraska Customer Service: (402) 219-6032

[Peter T 0]

03/27/2007 I-751 with all supporting documentation sent overnight express.

03/29/2007 Fee check was cashed

04/09/2007 I-797c received with a one year extensions and biometric appointment

05/01/2007 Trip to Milwaukee for biometrics

05/01/2007 to present, nothing.

You seem to be stuck in the same rut as the rest of us - the NSC has essentially stopped working on I-751 applications. You can contact your congressperson about it, but I wouldn't hold my breath for a speedy processing at NSC.

[Illinois77 0]

You're being a simpleton (as are others who are simply brushing this delay off as 'no big deal').

Call me a 'simpleton' if that makes you happy...

This removal of conditions process is a Federal validation of whether or not the Federal government considers our marriages as being valid marriages in terms of Federal immigration law. If the petition isn't approved does it make any sense to go out and buy a house, buy a new car, etc. if there's uncertainly over whether the conditions will be removed? What happens if we go out to buy a house and subsequently the USCIS denies the petition?

I have no reason whatsoever to believe that I will be denied.

People's lives are on hold until the petition is approved. No approval = no more legal right to remain in the United States. That's certainly more annoying than simply getting your vehicle's tags renewed.

My life is not on hold!

Even though my Greencard extension letter is also about to expire we know that a pending petition that was submitted in a timely fashion and accepted by USCIS, will extend cond.residency status for however long they need to process.

As long as the "conditions" are still the same (married, same spouse, not a felon...) there is no reason to belive anyone will not be approved. You were approved the first time around so if your life together has not changed what is there to worry about?

It certainly is a potential disaster much more than denying the K1/K3 because of the fact that even if our spouse is already here there is no guarantee until that approval notice arrives that our lives can go on together in this country.

I don't think it's too much to ask that the government perform a service that was PAID for over a year ago in a timely manner. My stepdaughter's petition was approved in 2 months. Why is it taking 13 months (thus far) just to approve my wife's?

I think the denial of the K3 (I130) would have been a bigger disaster for me!

And, I don't think it's "too much to ask" either but I just don't worry myself sick about it. I am still legally living in the US, working, paying my taxes, and travelling abroad if I feel like it.

I do have to make sure my paperwork is up to date, watch what they're doing (or not doing) and I will have to go through the inconvenience again of travelling to the local office to get my stamp (and really, I only do that because I plan on travelling. If no travel plans in your future, you don't need to get the stamp even).

Do I find this lengthy process ridiculous? Yes.

Do I wish they would process swiftly? Yes.

Do I think the whole world needs to be shaken up and informed about a slow-moving public service office (like that's new...)? Nope, I don't.

My only worry (seems like people are trying to get out of me that I worry about this) is that when travelling abroad after the expired extension date, that I run into airline personnel that is unfamiliar with an expired greencard but valid stamp in the passport. But I'll find out how that goes, soon.

[Illinois77 0]

'ello Illinois! I really didn't think we'd be in one of these beaurocratic messes once again! ok ... a little advice please ...

I'm having surgery in a couple of weeks (bit of the nasties) and really need to get back to Europe in June becuase mum has had cancer surgery too and, whilst not an emergency she really could do with seeing me .. as I could do with seeing my kids.

Obviously there won't be a nice 10 yr green card arriving before then so .. when should I start trying to move those proverbial mountains to get the stamp?

On the bright side .. March 13th I can send in application for naturalization!!

Hope you and yours are ok ... xox .. Jill

Hey JILL!!!

Yep, we're back in the same boat... can you believe it

I scheduled my infopass online (you can at www.uscis.gov for your local office), you can pick from a range of dates. They give you sort of a calendar. I'd pick a date close to your expiration date, and, to have extra 'ammo' bring the flight confirmation with you to the appointment. And the memo from uscis.gov, posted earlier in this thread, about how expired extensions should be given a 12-month extension stamp at the local offices. You should be good to go.

Oh, and when you schedule, you can only pick from certain reasons for Infopass, I chose the "filed status request w/service center and have heard nothing after 45 days.." - well, I had filed that at the time but was still within the 45 days. Nobody asked.

I hope you are feeling better and that all go well with your surgery, and your mom's!!

Take care,

I.

[iansig40 1]

You're being a simpleton (as are others who are simply brushing this delay off as 'no big deal').

Call me a 'simpleton' if that makes you happy...

This removal of conditions process is a Federal validation of whether or not the Federal government considers our marriages as being valid marriages in terms of Federal immigration law. If the petition isn't approved does it make any sense to go out and buy a house, buy a new car, etc. if there's uncertainly over whether the conditions will be removed? What happens if we go out to buy a house and subsequently the USCIS denies the petition?

I have no reason whatsoever to believe that I will be denied.

People's lives are on hold until the petition is approved. No approval = no more legal right to remain in the United States. That's certainly more annoying than simply getting your vehicle's tags renewed.

My life is not on hold!

Even though my Greencard extension letter is also about to expire we know that a pending petition that was submitted in a timely fashion and accepted by USCIS, will extend cond.residency status for however long they need to process.

As long as the "conditions" are still the same (married, same spouse, not a felon...) there is no reason to belive anyone will not be approved. You were approved the first time around so if your life together has not changed what is there to worry about?

It certainly is a potential disaster much more than denying the K1/K3 because of the fact that even if our spouse is already here there is no guarantee until that approval notice arrives that our lives can go on together in this country.

I don't think it's too much to ask that the government perform a service that was PAID for over a year ago in a timely manner. My stepdaughter's petition was approved in 2 months. Why is it taking 13 months (thus far) just to approve my wife's?

I think the denial of the K3 (I130) would have been a bigger disaster for me!

And, I don't think it's "too much to ask" either but I just don't worry myself sick about it. I am still legally living in the US, working, paying my taxes, and travelling abroad if I feel like it.

I do have to make sure my paperwork is up to date, watch what they're doing (or not doing) and I will have to go through the inconvenience again of travelling to the local office to get my stamp (and really, I only do that because I plan on travelling. If no travel plans in your future, you don't need to get the stamp even).

Do I find this lengthy process ridiculous? Yes.

Do I wish they would process swiftly? Yes.

Do I think the whole world needs to be shaken up and informed about a slow-moving public service office (like that's new...)? Nope, I don't.

My only worry (seems like people are trying to get out of me that I worry about this) is that when travelling abroad after the expired extension date, that I run into airline personnel that is unfamiliar with an expired greencard but valid stamp in the passport. But I'll find out how that goes, soon.

You made your point many time claiming that you are OK with this situation and the fact that it doesn't affect you at all so....... why don't you just give it up ? like I said before maybe one year from now you won't be so optimistic still checking on USCIS website for a "possible " update but I'm sure you will be OK with that too !!

[Illinois77 0]

Give what up?

I never said I was ok with it. I'm only saying you are wrong if you say that your life has to be 'on hold' and, obvious in your case, miserable because of USCIS. Tell me what you will change as soon as you have the 10 year Greencard in hand, that you could not change now.

[iansig40 1]

Give what up?

I never said I was ok with it. I'm only saying you are wrong if you say that your life has to be 'on hold' and, obvious in your case, miserable because of USCIS. Tell me what you will change as soon as you have the 10 year Greencard in hand, that you could not change now.

How can you be so sure that your application will be approved ? The fact that you been approved so far with all the other applications you submitted doesn't mean that nothing can happen ....remember this is US not Germany .The more they drag the process the better ,more complications ....more applications to submit and of course more $$$$$$

Being Canadian I know them very well

Now would you go blindly and invest in a house ,open a business ,have kids WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT TOMORROW WILL BRING ?

Get real man !!

[Cassie 8]

Give what up?

I never said I was ok with it. I'm only saying you are wrong if you say that your life has to be 'on hold' and, obvious in your case, miserable because of USCIS. Tell me what you will change as soon as you have the 10 year Greencard in hand, that you could not change now.

How can you be so sure that your application will be approved ? The fact that you been approved so far with all the other applications you submitted doesn't mean that nothing can happen ....remember this is US not Germany .The more they drag the process the better ,more complications ....more applications to submit and of course more $$$$$$

Being Canadian I know them very well

Now would you go blindly and invest in a house ,open a business ,have kids WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT TOMORROW WILL BRING ?

Get real man !!

let's see, next week we are buying a car. Next month we will be looking at moving and buying a new house. By the ned of this year I hope to have my own business started. Next year we will probably start the wheels in motion to adopt kids. I'm not waiting around for USCIS. They dictate my life enough as it is. If something different happens, well then we will deal with it as it comes.

People choose to deal with things differently iansig, and it's ok. Why do you insist that we all have to spend our days stressing out about USCIS? It's not worth the trouble.

Edited March 11, 2008 by Cassie

[NickD 203]

I have already contacted my congressman, senator, the governor to no avail, perhaps a letter to the president is in order.

I did travel with my wife to visit her family last summer with her expired PRC, the I-797c extension, and her stamped passport, no problems on the return trip. Was a bit apprehensive as my wife's friend did travel alone and was delayed 4 hours with an interrogation and a strip search. If they tried that with my wife, I would have been very upset. But that didn't happen, laid down my photo ID as a veteran of a foreign war, and both of us were treated in a very courteous and polite manner.

That same friend of hers a year ahead of us, did receive a letter and an appointment to her local office only to learn that NSC lost her records, a 500 mile round trip for her. She was panicked as to why they called her in only to find out she had to make a second trip to bring in her documents, again.

Hope this board is good for sharing tips, it's my understanding that you do not make an appointment until you are within 30 of your extension expiration date. Is this true?

[Peter T 0]

it's my understanding that you do not make an appointment until you are within 30 of your extension expiration date. Is this true?

I don't know if there is a certain limit like 30 days. I made my appointment 7 days before expiration to visit them 1 day after. Remember: You are not required to have a document to be a legal permanent resident, you can go days, weeks, even months without.

A month or less before the expiration of the extension seems to me a good time to visit them, with exceptions, of course: If you make a 3-week trip and come home one day after the NOA expired, I would visit them 35 days before the expiration and asked for a I-551 stamp, with travel documents in hand.

[iansig40 1]

Give what up?

I never said I was ok with it. I'm only saying you are wrong if you say that your life has to be 'on hold' and, obvious in your case, miserable because of USCIS. Tell me what you will change as soon as you have the 10 year Greencard in hand, that you could not change now.

How can you be so sure that your application will be approved ? The fact that you been approved so far with all the other applications you submitted doesn't mean that nothing can happen ....remember this is US not Germany .The more they drag the process the better ,more complications ....more applications to submit and of course more $$$$$$

Being Canadian I know them very well

Now would you go blindly and invest in a house ,open a business ,have kids WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT TOMORROW WILL BRING ?

Get real man !!

let's see, next week we are buying a car. Next month we will be looking at moving and buying a new house. By the ned of this year I hope to have my own business started. Next year we will probably start the wheels in motion to adopt kids. I'm not waiting around for USCIS. They dictate my life enough as it is. If something different happens, well then we will deal with it as it comes.

People choose to deal with things differently iansig, and it's ok. Why do you insist that we all have to spend our days stressing out about USCIS? It's not worth the trouble.

Great ...and if something happen what are you going to do ?

Start all over again this time in Canada to bring your wife/husband there? I hope that's not your backup plan!

[Cassie 8]

Give what up?

I never said I was ok with it. I'm only saying you are wrong if you say that your life has to be 'on hold' and, obvious in your case, miserable because of USCIS. Tell me what you will change as soon as you have the 10 year Greencard in hand, that you could not change now.

How can you be so sure that your application will be approved ? The fact that you been approved so far with all the other applications you submitted doesn't mean that nothing can happen ....remember this is US not Germany .The more they drag the process the better ,more complications ....more applications to submit and of course more $$$$$$

Being Canadian I know them very well

Now would you go blindly and invest in a house ,open a business ,have kids WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT TOMORROW WILL BRING ?

Get real man !!

let's see, next week we are buying a car. Next month we will be looking at moving and buying a new house. By the ned of this year I hope to have my own business started. Next year we will probably start the wheels in motion to adopt kids. I'm not waiting around for USCIS. They dictate my life enough as it is. If something different happens, well then we will deal with it as it comes.

People choose to deal with things differently iansig, and it's ok. Why do you insist that we all have to spend our days stressing out about USCIS? It's not worth the trouble.

Great ...and if something happen what are you going to do ?

Start all over again this time in Canada to bring your wife/husband there? I hope that's not your backup plan!

what's wrong with that kind of plan? Me and my husband plan on moving there in future anyways, so if it comes sooner rather than later, oh well! We believe that God has it all under control, and we're good with that.

[sandeepb 0]

Had a infopass appointment at the local Chicago office for extension stamp on the passport. I am not sure if i was just plain lucky or the fact that the USCIS person saw the memo stapled below my infopass appt and asked me what it was (to which I promptly replied ohh just something which clearly states I will get a one year extension) but anyway got a one year stamp. Hopefully will get my 10 yr greencard or citizenship by then. Wont be surprised if i dont get any.

Sandeep