I came in US AS A TOURIST in 2004 and I will marry with a US citizen… how I adjust my legal status after marriage? Please help!

[Nanusia & Lukaszek 0]

The European Union observes countries for several years to make sure they comply with the standards of other European Union countries. If I remember right Romania entered the EU on May 1st 2005. So the conditions in Romania have been on the european standard for several years before that.

The EU is not so short sighted to judge a country on a one time event.

And JohnnyQuest.

There are several countries next door to Serbia and I am not sure if you get for even one of them a refugee status. Refugees in Europe are mostly from Asia and Africa, but not from Europe. And if you don't believe me; browse the internet and you will find the information.

Romania just joined on January 1, 2007 into the EU, not 2005. The standards they have to meet are more financial & economic than those that can be considered for asylum. The only reason Turkey isn't in the EU is because of population size and that it could control the EU due to that (and Germany wont have it). And we know that many ask for refugee asylum from Turkey.

You can say all you want on the status of Romania being in the EU now, but that has little bearing. It was not in the EU at the time when the OP filed, nor do we know the circumstances of the asylum filing. People from Poland file asylum and get it, and are here, and I know them personally. And Poland has been in the EU since 2004.

Also, if you show that your departure will result in undue hardship on a USC (like the person the OP marries) this can be considered a basis for staying. Now say this takes some time for filing, and they have a baby down the line, and there are 2 USCs that would be harmed by the deportation of the Romanian, then even more hardship shown.

I'm not saying an asylum filing is easy, it's quite far fetched, but possible. The marriage to the USC now is going to mess things up. Get the advice of an attoreny with a background in asylum filings & NACARA.

[stinger157 0]

The European Union observes countries for several years to make sure they comply with the standards of other European Union countries. If I remember right Romania entered the EU on May 1st 2005. So the conditions in Romania have been on the european standard for several years before that.

The EU is not so short sighted to judge a country on a one time event.

And JohnnyQuest.

There are several countries next door to Serbia and I am not sure if you get for even one of them a refugee status. Refugees in Europe are mostly from Asia and Africa, but not from Europe. And if you don't believe me; browse the internet and you will find the information.

Romania just joined on January 1, 2007 into the EU, not 2005. The standards they have to meet are more financial & economic than those that can be considered for asylum. The only reason Turkey isn't in the EU is because of population size and that it could control the EU due to that (and Germany wont have it). And we know that many ask for refugee asylum from Turkey.

You can say all you want on the status of Romania being in the EU now, but that has little bearing. It was not in the EU at the time when the OP filed, nor do we know the circumstances of the asylum filing. People from Poland file asylum and get it, and are here, and I know them personally. And Poland has been in the EU since 2004.

Also, if you show that your departure will result in undue hardship on a USC (like the person the OP marries) this can be considered a basis for staying. Now say this takes some time for filing, and they have a baby down the line, and there are 2 USCs that would be harmed by the deportation of the Romanian, then even more hardship shown.

I'm not saying an asylum filing is easy, it's quite far fetched, but possible. The marriage to the USC now is going to mess things up. Get the advice of an attoreny with a background in asylum filings & NACARA.

The only ones from turkey which are applying for asylum in the EU are the kurds. And the reason why turkey is not in the EU is not about the population. Germany has around 12,000,000. The only ones pissed off would be the french.

The reason why turkey is not in the EU is its location. The majority of turkey belongs to Asia, not to Europe.

[diadromous mermaid 36]

Since Romania is a part of the European Union it is very likely that your I-589 application will be turned down and you can count on numerous other problems since you came as tourist and claimed political refugee status after that.

You can be sure that USCIS will check everything 1,000 times and you still will have problems after that!

Since you're not an IO, you can't be sure of that.

Please...

comes here as a tourist, claims to be a political refugee (based on his information he is from Romania which is part of the European Union and due to that offers no eligibility to claim refugee status)...

How are the odds that everything will go smooth after he proved himself dishonest before?

You don't need to be an IO to see that there is alot of trouble and disbelieve coming his way.

And FYI, like stated, Romania is part of the European Union. Based on what should his refugee or asylum status be granted? Does that mean that now everyone from the UK, France, Spain, Germany, Austria etc. can claim to be a political refugee? I don't think so. If you don't like your government doesn't mean that you are eligible for refugee status.

Refugee status can be awarded to aliens that live in fear of political and other reprisal...so simply because a potential assylee hails from a country that you do not think is a political hot spot doesn't rule out his eligibility. And furthermore, why would entering as a tourist be an issue to a refugee? Most have only that option avilable, and declare their interest in status right there at the border or at the end of the jetway to the plane!

[stinger157 0]

Since Romania is a part of the European Union it is very likely that your I-589 application will be turned down and you can count on numerous other problems since you came as tourist and claimed political refugee status after that.

You can be sure that USCIS will check everything 1,000 times and you still will have problems after that!

Since you're not an IO, you can't be sure of that.

Please...

comes here as a tourist, claims to be a political refugee (based on his information he is from Romania which is part of the European Union and due to that offers no eligibility to claim refugee status)...

How are the odds that everything will go smooth after he proved himself dishonest before?

You don't need to be an IO to see that there is alot of trouble and disbelieve coming his way.

And FYI, like stated, Romania is part of the European Union. Based on what should his refugee or asylum status be granted? Does that mean that now everyone from the UK, France, Spain, Germany, Austria etc. can claim to be a political refugee? I don't think so. If you don't like your government doesn't mean that you are eligible for refugee status.

Refugee status can be awarded to aliens that live in fear of political and other reprisal...so simply because a potential assylee hails from a country that you do not think is a political hot spot doesn't rule out his eligibility. And furthermore, why would entering as a tourist be an issue to a refugee? Most have only that option avilable, and declare their interest in status right there at the border or at the end of the jetway to the plane!

We won't find an agreement on that. So I will shut up.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

Since Romania is a part of the European Union it is very likely that your I-589 application will be turned down and you can count on numerous other problems since you came as tourist and claimed political refugee status after that.

You can be sure that USCIS will check everything 1,000 times and you still will have problems after that!

Since you're not an IO, you can't be sure of that.

Please...

comes here as a tourist, claims to be a political refugee (based on his information he is from Romania which is part of the European Union and due to that offers no eligibility to claim refugee status)...

How are the odds that everything will go smooth after he proved himself dishonest before?

You don't need to be an IO to see that there is alot of trouble and disbelieve coming his way.

And FYI, like stated, Romania is part of the European Union. Based on what should his refugee or asylum status be granted? Does that mean that now everyone from the UK, France, Spain, Germany, Austria etc. can claim to be a political refugee? I don't think so. If you don't like your government doesn't mean that you are eligible for refugee status.

Refugee status can be awarded to aliens that live in fear of political and other reprisal...so simply because a potential assylee hails from a country that you do not think is a political hot spot doesn't rule out his eligibility. And furthermore, why would entering as a tourist be an issue to a refugee? Most have only that option avilable, and declare their interest in status right there at the border or at the end of the jetway to the plane!

We won't find an agreement on that. So I will shut up.

Why so? Do you have experience with the issue?

Have you some compelling knowledge about the issue? Or are you simply convinced the status can only apply to people from certain nations?

I don't believe anyone is trying to 'prove you wrong'. They may be trying to open your eyes.

[stinger157 0]

Since Romania is a part of the European Union it is very likely that your I-589 application will be turned down and you can count on numerous other problems since you came as tourist and claimed political refugee status after that.

You can be sure that USCIS will check everything 1,000 times and you still will have problems after that!

Since you're not an IO, you can't be sure of that.

Please...

comes here as a tourist, claims to be a political refugee (based on his information he is from Romania which is part of the European Union and due to that offers no eligibility to claim refugee status)...

How are the odds that everything will go smooth after he proved himself dishonest before?

You don't need to be an IO to see that there is alot of trouble and disbelieve coming his way.

And FYI, like stated, Romania is part of the European Union. Based on what should his refugee or asylum status be granted? Does that mean that now everyone from the UK, France, Spain, Germany, Austria etc. can claim to be a political refugee? I don't think so. If you don't like your government doesn't mean that you are eligible for refugee status.

Refugee status can be awarded to aliens that live in fear of political and other reprisal...so simply because a potential assylee hails from a country that you do not think is a political hot spot doesn't rule out his eligibility. And furthermore, why would entering as a tourist be an issue to a refugee? Most have only that option avilable, and declare their interest in status right there at the border or at the end of the jetway to the plane!

We won't find an agreement on that. So I will shut up.

Why so? Do you have experience with the issue?

Have you some compelling knowledge about the issue? Or are you simply convinced the status can only apply to people from certain nations?

I don't believe anyone is trying to 'prove you wrong'. They may be trying to open your eyes.

Careful dude! My eyes don't need to be opened. I have enough experiences! But you insist your opinion is right. So I just cut things short and am silent!

Some people might be honored to be enlighted by your wisdom. I count on my work life and my experiences.

Edited December 29, 2007 by stinger157

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

Since Romania is a part of the European Union it is very likely that your I-589 application will be turned down and you can count on numerous other problems since you came as tourist and claimed political refugee status after that.

You can be sure that USCIS will check everything 1,000 times and you still will have problems after that!

Since you're not an IO, you can't be sure of that.

Please...

comes here as a tourist, claims to be a political refugee (based on his information he is from Romania which is part of the European Union and due to that offers no eligibility to claim refugee status)...

How are the odds that everything will go smooth after he proved himself dishonest before?

You don't need to be an IO to see that there is alot of trouble and disbelieve coming his way.

And FYI, like stated, Romania is part of the European Union. Based on what should his refugee or asylum status be granted? Does that mean that now everyone from the UK, France, Spain, Germany, Austria etc. can claim to be a political refugee? I don't think so. If you don't like your government doesn't mean that you are eligible for refugee status.

Refugee status can be awarded to aliens that live in fear of political and other reprisal...so simply because a potential assylee hails from a country that you do not think is a political hot spot doesn't rule out his eligibility. And furthermore, why would entering as a tourist be an issue to a refugee? Most have only that option avilable, and declare their interest in status right there at the border or at the end of the jetway to the plane!

We won't find an agreement on that. So I will shut up.

Why so? Do you have experience with the issue?

Have you some compelling knowledge about the issue? Or are you simply convinced the status can only apply to people from certain nations?

I don't believe anyone is trying to 'prove you wrong'. They may be trying to open your eyes.

Careful dude! My eyes don't need to be opened. I have enough experiences! But you insist your opinion is right. So I just cut things short and am silent!

Some people might be honored to be enlighted by your wisdom. I count on my work life and my experiences.

Well, dude, why don't you share them with us?

I've been reading around here and I keep seeing 'anecdotal experience'.

Share.

[stinger157 0]

Since Romania is a part of the European Union it is very likely that your I-589 application will be turned down and you can count on numerous other problems since you came as tourist and claimed political refugee status after that.

You can be sure that USCIS will check everything 1,000 times and you still will have problems after that!

Since you're not an IO, you can't be sure of that.

Please...

comes here as a tourist, claims to be a political refugee (based on his information he is from Romania which is part of the European Union and due to that offers no eligibility to claim refugee status)...

How are the odds that everything will go smooth after he proved himself dishonest before?

You don't need to be an IO to see that there is alot of trouble and disbelieve coming his way.

And FYI, like stated, Romania is part of the European Union. Based on what should his refugee or asylum status be granted? Does that mean that now everyone from the UK, France, Spain, Germany, Austria etc. can claim to be a political refugee? I don't think so. If you don't like your government doesn't mean that you are eligible for refugee status.

Refugee status can be awarded to aliens that live in fear of political and other reprisal...so simply because a potential assylee hails from a country that you do not think is a political hot spot doesn't rule out his eligibility. And furthermore, why would entering as a tourist be an issue to a refugee? Most have only that option avilable, and declare their interest in status right there at the border or at the end of the jetway to the plane!

We won't find an agreement on that. So I will shut up.

Why so? Do you have experience with the issue?

Have you some compelling knowledge about the issue? Or are you simply convinced the status can only apply to people from certain nations?

I don't believe anyone is trying to 'prove you wrong'. They may be trying to open your eyes.

Careful dude! My eyes don't need to be opened. I have enough experiences! But you insist your opinion is right. So I just cut things short and am silent!

Some people might be honored to be enlighted by your wisdom. I count on my work life and my experiences.

Well, dude, why don't you share them with us?

I've been reading around here and I keep seeing 'anecdotal experience'.

Share.

I don't know if you have a slight comprehension problem. I said I will be silent and that is it! If you downgrade my experience to anecdotes then you can live without my experience! Sorry, but before you try to complain about something or someone make sure that you don't offend people!

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

Since Romania is a part of the European Union it is very likely that your I-589 application will be turned down and you can count on numerous other problems since you came as tourist and claimed political refugee status after that.

You can be sure that USCIS will check everything 1,000 times and you still will have problems after that!

Since you're not an IO, you can't be sure of that.

Please...

comes here as a tourist, claims to be a political refugee (based on his information he is from Romania which is part of the European Union and due to that offers no eligibility to claim refugee status)...

How are the odds that everything will go smooth after he proved himself dishonest before?

You don't need to be an IO to see that there is alot of trouble and disbelieve coming his way.

And FYI, like stated, Romania is part of the European Union. Based on what should his refugee or asylum status be granted? Does that mean that now everyone from the UK, France, Spain, Germany, Austria etc. can claim to be a political refugee? I don't think so. If you don't like your government doesn't mean that you are eligible for refugee status.

Refugee status can be awarded to aliens that live in fear of political and other reprisal...so simply because a potential assylee hails from a country that you do not think is a political hot spot doesn't rule out his eligibility. And furthermore, why would entering as a tourist be an issue to a refugee? Most have only that option avilable, and declare their interest in status right there at the border or at the end of the jetway to the plane!

We won't find an agreement on that. So I will shut up.

Why so? Do you have experience with the issue?

Have you some compelling knowledge about the issue? Or are you simply convinced the status can only apply to people from certain nations?

I don't believe anyone is trying to 'prove you wrong'. They may be trying to open your eyes.

Careful dude! My eyes don't need to be opened. I have enough experiences! But you insist your opinion is right. So I just cut things short and am silent!

Some people might be honored to be enlighted by your wisdom. I count on my work life and my experiences.

Well, dude, why don't you share them with us?

I've been reading around here and I keep seeing 'anecdotal experience'.

Share.

I don't know if you have a slight comprehension problem. I said I will be silent and that is it! If you downgrade my experience to anecdotes then you can live without my experience! Sorry, but before you try to complain about something or someone make sure that you don't offend people!

And asking about my reading comprehension would not be offensive?

Anecdotal experience is a pretty good point of reference for readers. It's certainly not considered 'downgradeable information' in most immigrant communities.

[Frank+Jocelyn 1]

This guy's situation is far to complicated to be solved here. He needs an attorney and a lot of luck.

[athena_ny 1]

To the OP: point is, if you are not in removal proceedings (since you weren't clear about that), you can apply through marriage. All this screaming and yelling about when Romania joined the EU is pointless and doesn't answer your question. Still, speak with a lawyer.

[zqt3344 21]

Kudos MM, We can always count on you to encourage everyone to break the US immigration laws or circumvent them in anyway, especially if they overstay their visa or come and marry on a tourist visa and now this. Truly amazing. This is a complicated case, they are in immigration court already and better go get an attorney and hope it works out for the best, I would imagine that this OP only filed for aslyum just to keep from going back to Romania and avoiding the routine immigration methods, now they have created a mess on their hands for listening to people that truly do not know what they are telling them or encouraging them to do as in this case once again for example.

quote name='meow mix' date='Dec 29 2007, 09:40 PM' post='1450834']

To the OP: point is, if you are not in removal proceedings (since you weren't clear about that), you can apply through marriage. All this screaming and yelling about when Romania joined the EU is pointless and doesn't answer your question. Still, speak with a lawyer.

[athena_ny 1]

Kudos MM, We can always count on you to encourage everyone to break the US immigration laws or circumvent them in anyway, especially if they overstay their visa or come and marry on a tourist visa and now this. Truly amazing. This is a complicated case, they are in immigration court already and better go get an attorney and hope it works out for the best, I would imagine that this OP only filed for aslyum just to keep from going back to Romania and avoiding the routine immigration methods, now they have created a mess on their hands for listening to people that truly do not know what they are telling them or encouraging them to do as in this case once again for example.

To the OP: point is, if you are not in removal proceedings (since you weren't clear about that), you can apply through marriage. All this screaming and yelling about when Romania joined the EU is pointless and doesn't answer your question. Still, speak with a lawyer.

1. I told them to speak to a lawyer

2. I have never encouraged circumventing immigration law. All the things I suggest are completely legal if there is no intent on entry, as many other people here will tell you.

[LaL 418]

Kudos MM, We can always count on you to encourage everyone to break the US immigration laws or circumvent them in anyway, especially if they overstay their visa or come and marry on a tourist visa and now this. Truly amazing. This is a complicated case, they are in immigration court already and better go get an attorney and hope it works out for the best, I would imagine that this OP only filed for aslyum just to keep from going back to Romania and avoiding the routine immigration methods, now they have created a mess on their hands for listening to people that truly do not know what they are telling them or encouraging them to do as in this case once again for example.

name='meow mix' date='Dec 29 2007, 09:40 PM' post='1450834']

To the OP: point is, if you are not in removal proceedings (since you weren't clear about that), you can apply through marriage. All this screaming and yelling about when Romania joined the EU is pointless and doesn't answer your question. Still, speak with a lawyer.

And again zqt3344 - what Meow Mix is suggesting is not "encouraging everyone to break the US immigration laws". Had she or anyone else for that matter suggested anything of the kind, they would be suspended. This is a legal path with some consideration to circumstance.

[Nanusia & Lukaszek 0]

To the OP: point is, if you are not in removal proceedings (since you weren't clear about that), you can apply through marriage. All this screaming and yelling about when Romania joined the EU is pointless and doesn't answer your question. Still, speak with a lawyer.

Are you sure the OP can file AOS through marriage, having a pending asylum petition? I believe the asylum has to be withdrawn first... and that's where the mess begins to make AOS problematic.

Edited December 30, 2007 by Nanusia & Lukaszek