Huckabee: Hunting preserves species, actually keeps wildlife alive

[AnewKINDofFEELIN 0]

This isn't made up. Prarie dog burrows can break the legs of livestock and farmers have no way to control poplutation.

I am in no way saying it is made up. I bolded certain parts of his post for people to know what I'm talking about.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

This isn't made up. Prarie dog burrows can break the legs of livestock and farmers have no way to control poplutation.

I am in no way saying it is made up. I bolded certain parts of his post for people to know what I'm talking about.

Makem bigger so we can understand better

[AnewKINDofFEELIN 0]

Do YOU have a crush ? You don't know what I recognize, and it is doubtful you are sorry for anything. Go sit down.

Seriously, you added NOTHING to the conversation and just tried to defend the person in a way that is blatantly untrue.

This isn't made up. Prarie dog burrows can break the legs of livestock and farmers have no way to control poplutation.

I am in no way saying it is made up. I bolded certain parts of his post for people to know what I'm talking about.

Makem bigger so we can understand better

Good call.

Edited December 27, 2007 by AnewKINDofFEELIN

[Nagishkaw 510]

You didn't add much to it, yourself.

[AnewKINDofFEELIN 0]

You didn't add much to it, yourself.

I have actually made points in this thread that are on topic. Please show me where you have done the same.

[Kevin and 10]

The MNDNR is extending the season in one of the Whitetail zones this year due to overpopulation and Cronic Waste Disease. By thinning the herd deer will have less contact with each other and spreading the disease will be less likely.

[Nagishkaw 510]

You show me yours and I'll show you mine.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

You show me yours and I'll show you mine.

Break out the rulers! The ####### doesnt count so no cheating!

Edited December 27, 2007 by CarolsMarc

[Kevin and 10]

You show me yours and I'll show you mine.

Break out the rulers!

All I have is a micrometer.

[AnewKINDofFEELIN 0]

You show me yours and I'll show you mine.

Posts 4, 90, 93, and 98 for starters. Then you decided to make the entire thing into an irrelavent argument centered on your own blind support of *******.

You show me yours and I'll show you mine.

Break out the rulers!

All I have is a micrometer.

I hope you're talking about a measurement device and not one-millionth of a meter.

The MNDNR is extending the season in one of the Whitetail zones this year due to overpopulation and Cronic Waste Disease. By thinning the herd deer will have less contact with each other and spreading the disease will be less likely.

That is how hunting does help the whitetail population, something that I will not ever disagree with. Like I said, we eliminated most apex predators in the US, so many animals like deer do not have their natural population controls in place.

[Ban Hammer 13,366]

I hope you're talking about a measurement device and not one-millionth of a meter.

never done any reloading eh? (and no, i don't mean getting the better half drunk so she'll wash dishes).

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Moral obligations to hunting ... must mean ... no meat in your diet

Spoiling no ... stated my thoughts and thought I was quite clear. Are your a vegan ... no meat or meat products passes the lips? (Just want to know for discussion reasons.)

How can someone make a judgement ... if the person has zero knowledge of which they judge ?

No I am not a vegan and that has bollocks all to do with it. You do realise of course (as I said at the outset) that Elmer Fudd does not put meat on my table.

On "How can someone make a judgement.." Well people are quite prepared to do it on things like abortion. This is one of those issues... IMO.

Just wondering why you're making more of a deal of my initial statement than there really is, given that the statement was a general one. As I said it seems you're looking for any reason to start a fight.

wow ...here is the abortion card ....

and since it a general ... *salute*

The abortion card? Hardly... just using abortion as one (obvious) example of an issue where people object to something in moral terms without having direct experience of it.

Beyond all the back and forth over my statement - I seriously wonder what your point is in this thread.

and yours is ?

Clearly missed.

Actually ... I watched it roll on down the gutter

Actually you took an innoccuous general comment and injected a bunch of bile into it - including your swiftly deleted remark about "my sickening ilk". Quite how you reach that assessment from a general statement is really beyond me. As I said it seems you came into this thread spoiling for a fight, and you really don't care what anyone has to say about the topic. About as disingenuous as you can get.

So after 8 pages (including the usual b/s one-liners from the usual suspects), what exactly is the point of this thread?

You show me yours and I'll show you mine.

Break out the rulers! The ####### doesnt count so no cheating!

You win. You are the biggest #######

Edited December 28, 2007 by Number 6

[natty bumppo 297]

You didn't add much to it, yourself.

I have actually made points in this thread that are on topic. ....

Limited hunting can help a certain population. We, humans, have eliminated large numbers of predators, which are an important evolutionary tool for the prey species. The problem is when he makes an absurd blanket statement like he did.

Good point .... which population ... and what statement is being referenced?

Hunting of exotic species and apex predators is obnoxious. If you want to hunt a bear for bragging rights, be a real man about it. Shooting a bear from a safe distance just makes a person that much less-respectable in my eyes. Go get a katana and take down a bear and I will call you a man. I will not question your manhood and I'll make up Chuck Norris-type jokes about you. Shoot a grizzly from 100 yards away with a .270 and I will make jokes about your undersized genitalia every chance I get.

Another good point .... Here you mention not using a rifle, but hunting with a sword …. and you will call the person .... a man. This hunting technique being promoted has a much greater chance for wounding an animal and causing suffering. Oh sorry ... your comment was a joke.

What's your feeling on varmint hunting? Shooting prarie dogs at 300 yards OK.

I think it's silly and sadistic; and I think the people that do it have an inclination toward murder as they have lost connection with human empathy.

Here you stated you’re against varmint hunting. Equating people who do varmint hunt to have an inclination toward murder ... etc.

You're making a distinction now. I'm not against protecting your pets and crops, but hunting them for the hell of it is a different story.

Oh now it’s ok. It’s still varmint hunting. And you don’t mention protecting livestock. Oh wait … more on this later ….

Please keep making ####### up. It seems that you thrive on it.

Please read my previous post answering the same question you just asked. In fact, just read what has been said before you post.

The .270 Win. load data was taken from a Nosler reloading manual. I can also supply reference data from Hornady and Speer reloading manuals as well. The numbers will be very close.

It appears you haven’t spent much time in the outdoors … around farms. Sorry … maybe you should get out more … talk with people about the damage varmints can cause. Here is someone else who knows about varmint damage ...

This isn't made up. Prarie dog burrows can break the legs of livestock and farmers have no way to control poplutation.

Sorry you're disappointed if I didn't read a new post while answering another.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Limited hunting can help a certain population. We, humans, have eliminated large numbers of predators, which are an important evolutionary tool for the prey species. The problem is when he makes an absurd blanket statement like he did.

Good point .... which population ... and what statement is being referenced?

That would be Huckabee's statement in the OP article. The one you said you didn't care about....

Edited December 28, 2007 by Number 6

[natty bumppo 297]

Really ... what are you saying ?

This isn't made up. Prarie dog burrows can break the legs of livestock and farmers have no way to control poplutation.

I am in no way saying it is made up. I bolded certain parts of his post for people to know what I'm talking about.

You stated the words ... to hunt with a single-edged sword (katana) and "be a real man". [/b]

Just comparing your words of the .270 (I took the liberty of choosing an appropriate load for bear) w/150gr bullet (MV of 2800 fps) delivering approx 2256 ft lbs of energy at 100 yards to the single edge sword (cant find data on this). You must be one strong man with a sword.

Oh ... sorry you were joking and forgot to mention that ...

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So it's ok for livestock to break a leg because it stepped into a burrow (hole) or equipment gets damaged because the PDogs or gophers have turned the land into a moonscape. So ... how will the varmit population be controlled?

Please keep making ####### up. It seems that you thrive on it.

Please read my previous post answering the same question you just asked. In fact, just read what has been said before you post.