Huckabee: Hunting preserves species, actually keeps wildlife alive

[sereia 0]

my dad gave me this same lecture on christmas. he plans to go shoot an elephant in africa...*sigh*

Edited December 27, 2007 by sereia

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

my dad gave me this same lecture on christmas. he plans to go shoot an elephant in africa...*sigh*

Wow... No offence - but I didn't think there were any of the "White Hunter, Black Heart" crowd left

[natty bumppo 297]

How about we just leave it with Huckabee being a #######.

Alex wanted to start something about hunting .... so ...

Let's hear about her experiences ...

You don't need "experiences" to make a moral argument. UK Fox Hunting (a primarily upper class activity) was banned on moral grounds by people who had never participated in it.

Please explain ... how zero experience == knowledge in all forms of hunting.

It doesn't. But then again... that wasn't my point.

People object to things in principle all the time.

nm ... not worth it ....

I saw your first reply. Yes - I'd say it really isn't worth it...

actually since you didn't post it ... your reply isn't worth anything.

I have too many experiences with anti humters ... and how much they cost. Sorry it's a real sensitive subject for me and until the antis pay for what was lost ... and the added government burden (my tax dollars) ... i want to see their personal $$,$$$,$$$ spent to feed the hungry. Until then ...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How about we just leave it with Huckabee being a #######.

Alex wanted to start something about hunting .... so ...

Let's hear about her experiences ...

You don't need "experiences" to make a moral argument. UK Fox Hunting (a primarily upper class activity) was banned on moral grounds by people who had never participated in it.

Please explain ... how zero experience == knowledge in all forms of hunting.

It doesn't. But then again... that wasn't my point.

People object to things in principle all the time.

nm ... not worth it ....

I saw your first reply. Yes - I'd say it really isn't worth it...

actually since you didn't post it ... your reply isn't worth anything.

I have too many experiences with anti humters ... and how much they cost. Sorry it's a real sensitive subject for me and until the antis pay for what was lost ... and the added government burden (my tax dollars) ... i want to see their personal $$,$$$,$$$ spent to feed the hungry. Until then ...

None of which changes that Huckabee's argument is a profoundly $hit one. Nor does it change the fact that there are moral arguments against hunting that don't require the involvement in activist groups.

[Alex+R 0]

How about we just leave it with Huckabee being a #######.

Alex wanted to start something about hunting .... so ...

Let's hear about her experiences ...

You don't need "experiences" to make a moral argument. UK Fox Hunting (a primarily upper class activity) was banned on moral grounds by people who had never participated in it.

Please explain ... how zero experience == knowledge in all forms of hunting.

It doesn't. But then again... that wasn't my point.

People object to things in principle all the time.

nm ... not worth it ....

I saw your first reply. Yes - I'd say it really isn't worth it...

actually since you didn't post it ... your reply isn't worth anything.

I have too many experiences with anti humters ... and how much they cost. Sorry it's a real sensitive subject for me and until the antis pay for what was lost ... and the added government burden (my tax dollars) ... i want to see their personal $$,$$$,$$$ spent to feed the hungry. Until then ...

If you are hungry, you should be able to hunt. And eat it. Obviously. I'd like to hear more about "what was lost," especially since you've ignored my previous post.

[sereia 0]

my dad gave me this same lecture on christmas. he plans to go shoot an elephant in africa...*sigh*

Wow... No offence - but I didn't think there were any of the "White Hunter, Black Heart" crowd left

unfortunately there's plenty. part of my dad's lecture was how hunting in certain countries in africa is actually SAVING the elephants because the people make money off the hunters who come there and pay large amounts to hunt animals (plus they get all the meat from the animal). so they do whatever they can to protect them. other countries are almost wiped clean because of poachers.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

my dad gave me this same lecture on christmas. he plans to go shoot an elephant in africa...*sigh*

Wow... No offence - but I didn't think there were any of the "White Hunter, Black Heart" crowd left

unfortunately there's plenty. part of my dad's lecture was how hunting in certain countries in africa is actually SAVING the elephants because the people make money off the hunters who come there and pay large amounts to hunt animals (plus they get all the meat from the animal). so they do whatever they can to protect them. other countries are almost wiped clean because of poachers.

Dunno - that seems a bit of a strange rationale considering that hunting elephants (and Rhinos etc) is actually illegal in many of those countries.

[natty bumppo 297]

How about we just leave it with Huckabee being a #######.

Alex wanted to start something about hunting .... so ...

Let's hear about her experiences ...

You don't need "experiences" to make a moral argument. UK Fox Hunting (a primarily upper class activity) was banned on moral grounds by people who had never participated in it.

Please explain ... how zero experience == knowledge in all forms of hunting.

It doesn't. But then again... that wasn't my point.

People object to things in principle all the time.

nm ... not worth it ....

I saw your first reply. Yes - I'd say it really isn't worth it...

actually since you didn't post it ... your reply isn't worth anything.

I have too many experiences with anti humters ... and how much they cost. Sorry it's a real sensitive subject for me and until the antis pay for what was lost ... and the added government burden (my tax dollars) ... i want to see their personal $$,$$$,$$$ spent to feed the hungry. Until then ...

If you are hungry, you should be able to hunt. And eat it. Obviously. I'd like to hear more about "what was lost," especially since you've ignored my previous post.

Alex .... I've always hunted for food. My first wife who was from Skokie, IL and liked the food I was able to bring to the table.

Please refresh your direct comment to me ... what was lost ... I'd like to answer.

[sereia 0]

hunting elephants is not illegal in lots of countries. (can't name exactly which but a quick google could find it) rhino's and other animals are another story.

my mom and i made a donation in my dad's name to adopt an elephant and sent him the certificate. guess that ploy didn't work.

[natty bumppo 297]

How about we just leave it with Huckabee being a #######.

Alex wanted to start something about hunting .... so ...

Let's hear about her experiences ...

You don't need "experiences" to make a moral argument. UK Fox Hunting (a primarily upper class activity) was banned on moral grounds by people who had never participated in it.

Please explain ... how zero experience == knowledge in all forms of hunting.

It doesn't. But then again... that wasn't my point.

People object to things in principle all the time.

nm ... not worth it ....

I saw your first reply. Yes - I'd say it really isn't worth it...

actually since you didn't post it ... your reply isn't worth anything.

I have too many experiences with anti humters ... and how much they cost. Sorry it's a real sensitive subject for me and until the antis pay for what was lost ... and the added government burden (my tax dollars) ... i want to see their personal $$,$$$,$$$ spent to feed the hungry. Until then ...

None of which changes that Huckabee's argument is a profoundly $hit one. Nor does it change the fact that there are moral arguments against hunting that don't require the involvement in activist groups.

I don't give a rats behind about "huckbee". Your point is ????

hunting elephants is not illegal in lots of countries. (can't name exactly which but a quick google could find it) rhino's and other animals are another story.

my mom and i made a donation in my dad's name to adopt an elephant and sent him the certificate. guess that ploy didn't work.

Wow ... I can hunt elephants and rhinos in NA? Darn ... it would feed me and my family for a year. Where do I go in the lower 48 for this type of hunt ?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How about we just leave it with Huckabee being a #######.

Alex wanted to start something about hunting .... so ...

Let's hear about her experiences ...

You don't need "experiences" to make a moral argument. UK Fox Hunting (a primarily upper class activity) was banned on moral grounds by people who had never participated in it.

Please explain ... how zero experience == knowledge in all forms of hunting.

It doesn't. But then again... that wasn't my point.

People object to things in principle all the time.

nm ... not worth it ....

I saw your first reply. Yes - I'd say it really isn't worth it...

actually since you didn't post it ... your reply isn't worth anything.

I have too many experiences with anti humters ... and how much they cost. Sorry it's a real sensitive subject for me and until the antis pay for what was lost ... and the added government burden (my tax dollars) ... i want to see their personal $$,$$$,$$$ spent to feed the hungry. Until then ...

None of which changes that Huckabee's argument is a profoundly $hit one. Nor does it change the fact that there are moral arguments against hunting that don't require the involvement in activist groups.

I don't give a rats behind about "huckbee". Your point is ????

Well for one - that there are general moral objections to hunting. That's really all I said. You seem to have taken that general statement and used it to associate me with some sort of anti-hunting political activist group.

It may be a "sensitive" subject for you - but you seem to be spoiling for a fight. And on pretty thin material too. I never claimed to be a "hunting expert" only that that knowledge isn't important to make a moral and ethical judgement.

In other words - "its not for me".

Beyond that, and whether you care about it or not, the OPs article is about Huckabee's claim. No need to take these things so personally.

Edited December 27, 2007 by Number 6

[natty bumppo 297]

I don't give a rats behind about "huckbee". Your point is ????

Well for one - that there are general moral objections to hunting. That's really all I said. You seem to have taken that general statement and used it to associate me with some sort of anti-hunting political activist group.

It may be a "sensitive" subject for you - but you seem to be spoiling for a fight. And on pretty thin material too. I never claimed to be a "hunting expert" only that that knowledge isn't important to make a moral and ethical judgement.

In other words - "its not for me".

Beyond that, and whether you care about it or not, the OPs article is about Huckabee's claim. No need to take these things so personally.

Moral obligations to hunting ... must mean ... no meat in your diet

Spoiling no ... stated my thoughts and thought I was quite clear. Are your a vegan ... no meat or meat products passes the lips? (Just want to know for discussion reasons.)

I would hope you remember .... I'm an instructor.

How can someone make a judgement ... if the person has zero knowledge of which they judge ?

[Don_Joy's Prince 0]

People should have the right to hunt. If you lived in a state that has wildlife and nature you would understand. My friend at work went out bow hunting for elk this fall here in Oregon. He got a bull elk with 6 points on each side. When it was dead with its head on the ground, he had a hand on each antler and it was even with his head and he is 6 feet tall. It was a beautiful thing. They also got a cow and a spike on the trip an all around good year. They hunted with bow and arrows. And his family will use that meat for food for the next year.

Now that is a real man! Not all this p#ssy ####### you guys talk about! Try carrying a bull elk that is 800+ pounds up a mountain and skinning it and driving it home. New York p#ssies don't even try it.

The feminization of man in modern society is sickening. That is why women think they want a sensitive touchy feely kind of man and when they get one they disgust them and divorce them post haste!

[natty bumppo 297]

Now that is a real man! Not all this p#ssy ####### you guys talk about! Try carrying a bull elk that is 800+ pounds up a mountain and skinning it and driving it home. New

Many don't try ......

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