I have a question

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What on God's Green Earth has the Schengen Visa to with the Fox's question?

The query clearly starts: "If you live..." and not "If you visit...".

ET take a deep breath. Sadly, this is just only another example of your 1,000,000 senseless posts on VJ. You are a campus NUTCASE! Your opinion always lacks credibility, IN MY OPINION. I am certainly not an expert in immigration to the EU but my arguments are always sensible. However, your arguments are never based on facts, rather misinformed opinions. Generally, it has been my experience that when I am accused of being insensible, it is because someone misinterpreted smartassery. Either way, I cannot claim to know it all, and if someone sets me straight with facts, I will always concede.

As far as I know, Fox doesn’t live in EU yet. I’m not sure about other places, but in order to apply for a residency permit in France, one must usually first obtain a Schengen visa. People usually arrive on a tourist visa and start to process their application for residency once they are there (except cases of obtaining a working visa through an employer for instance). The same is probably true in Italy, Germany, and Spain. The entire process, as far as I know, may take several months so patience is needed. In the meantime, I think it is wise to warn people not to violate the terms of their visas. The reason why being that authorities in Europe have traditionally been very protective of their domestic labour force. Successive governments have sought to stem migration flows and issued more expulsion orders.

Now, let me enjoy my vacation.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

What on God's Green Earth has the Schengen Visa to with the Fox's question?

The query clearly starts: "If you live..." and not "If you visit...".

ET take a deep breath. Sadly, this is just only another example of your 1,000,000 senseless posts on VJ. You are a campus NUTCASE! Your opinion always lacks credibility, IN MY OPINION. I am certainly not an expert in immigration to the EU but my arguments are always sensible. However, your arguments are never based on facts, rather misinformed opinions. Generally, it has been my experience that when I am accused of being insensible, it is because someone misinterpreted smartassery. Either way, I cannot claim to know it all, and if someone sets me straight with facts, I will always concede.

As far as I know, Fox doesn’t live in EU yet. I’m not sure about other places, but in order to apply for a residency permit in France, one must usually first obtain a Schengen visa. People usually arrive on a tourist visa and start to process their application for residency once they are there (except cases of obtaining a working visa through an employer for instance). The same is probably true in Italy, Germany, and Spain. The entire process, as far as I know, may take several months so patience is needed. In the meantime, I think it is wise to warn people not to violate the terms of their visas. The reason why being that authorities in Europe have traditionally been very protective of their domestic labour force. Successive governments have sought to stem migration flows and issued more expulsion orders.

Now, let me enjoy my vacation.

Smug Alert!

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

You don't need a Schengen visa to travel to those countries if you have a US passport

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

What on God's Green Earth has the Schengen Visa to with the Fox's question?

The query clearly starts: "If you live..." and not "If you visit...".

Sadly, ...

Sadly, for a lack of substance, you feel the need to resort to personal attacks yet again.

You don't need a Schengen visa to travel to those countries if you have a US passport.

Exactly!

[Sister Fracas 5]

You don't need a Schengen visa to travel to those countries if you have a US passport.

Exactly!

err...yeah....

[Fischkoepfin 1]

You don't need a Schengen visa to travel to those countries if you have a US passport

Yup, a USC travels on VWP, which grants him/her the same rights as someone holding a Schengen visa. To live and work in Europe, USCs need to apply for residency and work permits. Also, USCs will only be hired if the hiring company can prove that there isn't a similarly qualified EU-citizen for the job.

[Satisfaction 1]

What on God's Green Earth has the Schengen Visa to with the Fox's question?

The query clearly starts: "If you live..." and not "If you visit...".

Sadly, ...

Sadly, for a lack of substance, you feel the need to resort to personal attacks yet again.

You don't need a Schengen visa to travel to those countries if you have a US passport.

Exactly!

zzzzzzzz

PS: USC cannot work in EU unless he or she has residency and/or obtained a working visa.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

Yes, but a USC will never need to get a Schengen visa to achieve said residency or work permit.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I have this feeling you're both just in very violent agreement with each other

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

I just know what I'm talking about -- before I got UK citizenship I was offered a transfer from London to Milan. My company would have had to get me a work permit from the Italian government, not a Schengen visa.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

What on God's Green Earth has the Schengen Visa to with the Fox's question?

The query clearly starts: "If you live..." and not "If you visit...".

Sadly, ...

Sadly, for a lack of substance, you feel the need to resort to personal attacks yet again.

You don't need a Schengen visa to travel to those countries if you have a US passport.

Exactly!

PS: USC cannot work in EU unless he or she has residency and/or obtained a working visa.

Of course not. I never claimed anything to the contrary. Yet, any way you slice it, the Schengen Visa has absolutely nothing to do with any of this. Which is all I said earlier.

Yes, but a USC will never need to get a Schengen visa to achieve said residency or work permit.

You got it.

Edited April 20, 2006 by ET-US2004

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It is not always true. Based on the information that I have in France (I don’t know about other EU countries), USC must apply for a “long stay” visa at the Consulate if he or she plans on coming for other purposes than tourism and/or stay in France for more than 90 days. American passport holders are all required to obtain a visa to spend more than 3 months in France. There may be exceptions to this rule, but I am not sure what they are and who they apply to. I heard of a few people who had problems with the immigration there, so please be careful.

Fox, I would just advise you to inquire at the Consdulate of Spain in the US before you leave, which will be the best place for you to find accurate information.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Based on the information that I have in France (I don’t know about other EU countries), USC must apply for a “long stay” visa at the Consulate if he or she plans on coming for other purposes than tourism and/or stay in France for more than 90 days. American passport holders are all required to obtain a visa to spend more than 3 months in France.

Unless, of course, their spouse happens to be a French national. Check it out!

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Based on the information that I have in France (I don’t know about other EU countries), USC must apply for a “long stay” visa at the Consulate if he or she plans on coming for other purposes than tourism and/or stay in France for more than 90 days. American passport holders are all required to obtain a visa to spend more than 3 months in France.

Unless, of course, their spouse happens to be a French national. Check it out!

That is unfortunately not true . The French consulate asked my friend in 2002 (married to FR citizen) to apply and obtain a long stay visa in order to immigrate to France. Go to a French consulate and ask. You will get your answer.

[Sister Fracas 5]

That is unfortunately not true . The French consulate asked my friend in 2002 (married to FR citizen) to apply and obtain a long stay visa in order to immigrate to France. Go to a French consulate and ask. You will get your answer.

The French Ministry for Foreign Affairs website is wrong?