Dream Turns Nightmare: Milwaukee Police Officer to Be Deported

[mawilson 2,133]

It hurts the public when a person gains the right to vote by stealing the identity of a dead USC. It hurts the public when a person with and through the identity of a dead person starts patrolling our streets as a law enforcement officer. It's not that hard to see. And I did say it earlier - highlighted it for you.

How does it hurt the public when a person gains the right to vote? Why shouldn't he have the right to vote, he grew up here for crying out loud. It's not like he can use both identities to vote.

The right to vote is a privilege that citizens of this country enjoy. He ain't a citizen of this country. There are 20 million illegal aliens living here, many more legal aliens. They all just start casting ballots and shape a country they're not formally a part of? It just doesn't work that way.

Actually, it does. It is well-settled under US constitutional law that aliens within the US are

entitled exactly the same constitutional protections as US citizens.

It's just a legal technicality that Oscar Ayala-Cornejo is not a citizen because he was born

abroad and brought here as a kid, while his illegal cousin Pedroh Gonzalez is a US citizen

because he happened to be born here.

[mawilson 2,133]

Maybe this will also help ...

He did not obtain permission from the dead person who's identity he took (stole).

It was not the familys identity to give .. it belonged to the dead person.

So if I added a clause to my will donating my identity to illegal aliens upon my death,

you wouldn't have a problem with it?

[natty bumppo 297]

Maybe this will also help ...

He did not obtain permission from the dead person who's identity he took (stole).

It was not the familys identity to give .. it belonged to the dead person.

So if I added a clause to my will donating my identity to illegal aliens upon my death,

you wouldn't have a problem with it?

don't think it works that way ... it's your identity .. you the individual.

you can donate your estate to them ... let them be the executor. best to check with the SO first.

[mawilson 2,133]

The public. The tax payers. The police office. Many people and our government who didn't give him permission to use the identity.

Whatever. The "crime" of stealing a dead guy's identity is minor at best. I'd rather the

police spent their time and my tax money on making the streets safer from actual criminals.

[DavidsPrincess 1]

I don't see how this is even a debate. Pretending to be someone you are not..is legally and MORALLY wrong. He is using someone else's SSN and name, he could file for all kinds of loans and credit cards and public aid, and never pay it back. That's generally the problem with any kind of identity theft . The fact that the identity belonged to someone who is dead is irrelevant. In my opinion, he is as much to blame as his parents for what he did.

So, because he was brought here illegally as a child, he is not responsible for what happens to him as an ADULT? He could go back to Mexico and become legal if he wanted to be a police officer THAT badly. Sure, it takes a long time, but everyone else waits in line and pays their fees to get here. So, because his parents came into the country illegally and he happened to tag along, he should be able to stay? Hell, if that was how it worked and I was in Mexico, I'd pay some guy to knock me up so I could bring my kid here and get citizenship. Silly. If they wanted their family to stay together so badly, they could ALL go back to Mexico and go through the immigration process together. No splitting up of the family whatsoever.

[mawilson 2,133]

I don't see how this is even a debate. Pretending to be someone you are not..is legally and MORALLY wrong.

You want to talk about morals? What's MORALLY wrong is punishing the child for the crimes of his parents.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

It hurts the public when a person gains the right to vote by stealing the identity of a dead USC. It hurts the public when a person with and through the identity of a dead person starts patrolling our streets as a law enforcement officer. It's not that hard to see. And I did say it earlier - highlighted it for you.

How does it hurt the public when a person gains the right to vote? Why shouldn't he have the right to vote, he grew up here for crying out loud. It's not like he can use both identities to vote.

The right to vote is a privilege that citizens of this country enjoy. He ain't a citizen of this country. There are 20 million illegal aliens living here, many more legal aliens. They all just start casting ballots and shape a country they're not formally a part of? It just doesn't work that way.

Actually, it does. It is well-settled under US constitutional law that aliens within the US are entitled exactly the same constitutional protections as US citizens.

What's well settled is that non-citizens don't get to vote.

[natty bumppo 297]

I don't see how this is even a debate. Pretending to be someone you are not..is legally and MORALLY wrong.

You want to talk about morals? What's MORALLY wrong is punishing the child for the crimes of his parents.

He is no longer a child ... has not been for years ... and has know about this issue since before he was an adult.

[mawilson 2,133]

I don't see how this is even a debate. Pretending to be someone you are not..is legally and MORALLY wrong.

You want to talk about morals? What's MORALLY wrong is punishing the child for the crimes of his parents.

He is no longer a child ... has not been for years ... and has know about this issue since before he was an adult.

Yeah. I just hope you never find out that your parents lied to you and you're actually an illegal alien

using the stolen identity of a dead American child.

[natty bumppo 297]

I don't see how this is even a debate. Pretending to be someone you are not..is legally and MORALLY wrong.

You want to talk about morals? What's MORALLY wrong is punishing the child for the crimes of his parents.

He is no longer a child ... has not been for years ... and has know about this issue since before he was an adult.

Yeah. I just hope you never find out that your parents lied to you and you're actually an illegal alien

using the stolen identity of a dead American child.

Well ... thanks for your concern. I have way too much documentation that says otherwise.

He knew about this issue when he was a minor ... and he knowlingly participated in the stolen identity ....

Reference ...

His father, Mr. Ayala-Cornejo said, came up with a solution: A cousin in Illinois had a son, Jose A. Morales, a United States citizen who had died of leukemia in Mexico. He and Mr. Ayala-Cornejo would have been about the same age, and the family offered to turn over Jose’s birth certificate and Social Security number ...

“I didn’t hesitate,” he said. “I was like, ‘O.K., if that’s the best option, ....

So at age 16, Mr. Ayala-Cornejo switched high schools, registering under his new name. He cut his hair and, abandoning his eyeglasses, started wearing contact lenses. In public, he referred to his mother and father as his aunt and uncle, and he called his siblings cousins.

[Fandango 1,439]

Technically, if I were a criminal arrested by this cop and convicted with testimony from this cop, I'd be petitoning for the decision to be reversed, and the original charge to be thrown out.

This cop has put society in jeopardy by leaving such a possibility open to all the criminals he put behind bars.

Mark...where's the harm? Right up there, my friend. Just wait...that will be the next part of this story. Countless money, time, resources, manpower will all be for nowt when these criminals walk free because they were arrested by an illegal alien. Any good defense atty is mounting a case as we speak

He was never eligible to do his job in the first place, so what does that do to all the cases he was involved in?

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

I don't see how this is even a debate. Pretending to be someone you are not..is legally and MORALLY wrong.

You want to talk about morals? What's MORALLY wrong is punishing the child for the crimes of his parents.

ever hear of moral turpitude? police officers, as are public figures and teachers, are held to a higher level of accountability due to public visibility.

this guy fell way short of that. and add into that lisa's point about those he arrested now having justification for a new trial, the taxpayers in his area are taking it in the shorts.

[Craneman 2]

What part of illeagal do you not understand?

I don't see how this is even a debate. Pretending to be someone you are not..is legally and MORALLY wrong.

You want to talk about morals? What's MORALLY wrong is punishing the child for the crimes of his parents.

He is no longer a child ... has not been for years ... and has know about this issue since before he was an adult.

Yeah. I just hope you never find out that your parents lied to you and you're actually an illegal alien

using the stolen identity of a dead American child.

[mustang-sally 8]

I think this is a big difference I have found between the UK and the USA

We in the UK are more forgiving, more likely to overlook 'small' things such as this. He was and probably is a good cop so let him carry on is what I say. It's really not his fault that once he realised his dream, that his parents sent it crashing down with their information.

Give him his citizenship, after all the USA is all he has known, how is he supposed to make a new life in Mexico, a country he left at 9 years old?

(Maggie now goes and hides under the table waiting for the onslaught )

[Fandango 1,439]

I think this is a big difference I have found between the UK and the USA

We in the UK are more forgiving, more likely to overlook 'small' things such as this. He was and probably is a good cop so let him carry on is what I say. It's really not his fault that once he realised his dream, that his parents sent it crashing down with their information.

Give him his citizenship, after all the USA is all he has known, how is he supposed to make a new life in Mexico, a country he left at 9 years old?

(Maggie now goes and hides under the table waiting for the onslaught )

I'm not so sure the quality of 'overlooking' something of this magnitude is something that could be seen as a good thing. While it's true that the man did not have anything to do with him being brought here at a young age, he did have something to do with the identity theft. Moreover, he was the one who chose to apply to the police dept.....the onus lies with him for that, and cannot be laid at his parents' feet.

If you're a bigamist and marry wife #2, your marriage is not seen as legal because you were not eligible to marry again. This man was never eligible to become a police officer, therefore all his work on the force is not binding. This opens a huuuuuuuuuge can of worms in his area....and imagine the cost to the taxpayers, the victims and families who might see criminals walk free, the overbooked docket, etc, that are all going to come as a result of this man wanting to have his cake and eat it too. One would assume that studying to become a PO teaches one a respect for the law....not a method of cherrypicking what one deems important, so long as it doesn't affect him.

His life in Mexico is irrelevant....what everyone needs to focus on now is the 'damage control' needed for the area in which he 'served'.