Sometimes I'd Like to Punch Him in the Mouth

[AnewKINDofFEELIN 0]

Is it because it's the U.S. president that it somehow seems acceptable? If Stephen Harper said:

"My biggest concern is that George Bush says, 'Well, we're kind of tired of Iraq and, therefore, we think we're going to leave,".

You are greatly altering the structure of his statement to make your point. Plus, George Bush said NOTHING about Stephen Harper. You are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

No, you are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. enough said.

Seriously, you turned a hypothetical that Bush posed into an attack on someone that wasn't even mentioned.

*sigh.. I know better than to jump into this one.. but I'm going to nonetheless..

post 9-11 Bush thanked every COUNTRY in the FREAKING WORLD for their help and condolences and NEVER ONCE mentioned Canada.. This was out of ignorance.. but then it took Ms. Rice YEARS to get her ####### up to Halifax to personally thank the people of Canada for their selfless role in the post 9-11 days.. even the rules of etiquette state that you should send a thank you card within a year.

This is the FIRST time that has been reported I've heard him mention Canada's role in Iraq and the fact that Her Sons & Daughters are being put in harms way. Basically IMO Bush got miffed that we REFUSED to go into IRAQ and basically has disowned us as a "brother" ever since. In every speech I have heard he has mentioned every NATO member EXCEPT Canada (even included Japan for heaven's sake and excluded us)..

It has not gone unnoticed by me, and I am NOT happy that NOW he decides to pull out the "go Canada" card..

You can take your beef & soft wood lumber and stick it up your ####### Mr. President..

Ohhhhhh ...

Me thinks I need to stop writing now!!

Thank you for the articulate response. This makes much more sense than the way this thread started out, which was, "Bush thanks Canada. I HATE HIM."

[Emancipation 2]

Is it because it's the U.S. president that it somehow seems acceptable? If Stephen Harper said:

"My biggest concern is that George Bush says, 'Well, we're kind of tired of Iraq and, therefore, we think we're going to leave,".

You are greatly altering the structure of his statement to make your point. Plus, George Bush said NOTHING about Stephen Harper. You are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

No, you are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. enough said.

Seriously, you turned a hypothetical that Bush posed into an attack on someone that wasn't even mentioned.

*sigh.. I know better than to jump into this one.. but I'm going to nonetheless..

post 9-11 Bush thanked every COUNTRY in the FREAKING WORLD for their help and condolences and NEVER ONCE mentioned Canada.. This was out of ignorance.. but then it took Ms. Rice YEARS to get her ####### up to Halifax to personally thank the people of Canada for their selfless role in the post 9-11 days.. even the rules of etiquette state that you should send a thank you card within a year.

This is the FIRST time that has been reported I've heard him mention Canada's role in Iraq and the fact that Her Sons & Daughters are being put in harms way. Basically IMO Bush got miffed that we REFUSED to go into IRAQ and basically has disowned us as a "brother" ever since. In every speech I have heard he has mentioned every NATO member EXCEPT Canada (even included Japan for heaven's sake and excluded us)..

It has not gone unnoticed by me, and I am NOT happy that NOW he decides to pull out the "go Canada" card..

You can take your beef & soft wood lumber and stick it up your ####### Mr. President..

Ohhhhhh ...

Me thinks I need to stop writing now!!

Thank you for the articulate response. This makes much more sense than the way this thread started out, which was, "Bush thanks Canada. I HATE HIM."

Ahhh .. see that's why i posted it here in the Canada Forum.. Me thought the CDN crowd would all have that background!! sorry!! Wasn't trying to be overtly anti-bush.. i do have me reasons!!

[thermophile 0]

Bush's lack of acknowledgment of Canada's contributions to the US after 9/11 and in Afghanistan are pointed reminders that Canada "deserted" the US by not joining in the folly in Iraq. Bush personally is an idiot and could have simply forgot that Canada exists, but the people around him are very bright and know that Canadians watch the US closely enough that a subtle insult like that would resonate.

But many Americans are aware of all that Canada has done to help us. My favorite tribute was the owner of a bar that I've frequented in MT dropped all Canadian pints to $1 the last week of September 2001 and hasn't raised them yet. There's a note saying Thank You Canada on the sign with the price of a pint.

[DavidsPrincess 1]

So, you would have been happier had he not thanked Canada for their help in Afghanistan?

I too, after reading the article, thought "umm...what was said in this that would offend ANYone?" The comment about people pulling out of afghanistan wasn't directed toward any certain person or country, he simply stated that it was a concern of his that it COULD happen. It's very possible that it could, but he never said "I'm worried Canada will pull out."

I will say that I was only in 9th grade when 9/11 happened, and I had no idea that we even got help from Canada at that time (I mostly heard about the UK helping). So I am by far more ignorant in this field than most, but I wanted to state my opinion on that article. I can understand why you would be offended that he never thanked you for helping us in 9/11....but I don't see how you can criticize him for standing up and thanking you now.

[thermophile 0]

So, you would have been happier had he not thanked Canada for their help in Afghanistan?

I too, after reading the article, thought "umm...what was said in this that would offend ANYone?" The comment about people pulling out of afghanistan wasn't directed toward any certain person or country, he simply stated that it was a concern of his that it COULD happen. It's very possible that it could, but he never said "I'm worried Canada will pull out."

I will say that I was only in 9th grade when 9/11 happened, and I had no idea that we even got help from Canada at that time (I mostly heard about the UK helping). So I am by far more ignorant in this field than most, but I wanted to state my opinion on that article. I can understand why you would be offended that he never thanked you for helping us in 9/11....but I don't see how you can criticize him for standing up and thanking you now.

because one of the major public weapons in diplomacy is thanking or withholding thanks. see:

"Bush and Rice's remarks about Canada were made in light of criticism against NATO countries like France and Germany, which have only deployed troops to parts of Afghanistan that are relatively peaceful."

The very public thanks this week weren't really directed towards Canada-they were meant to send a message to France and Germany. Ignoring Canadian contributions for years and only sending Rice to publicly thank Canada when the administration wanted to call out other countries is piling insults on top of the original insult of not acknowledging Canada since 2001.

[stephandmuz 0]

Is it because it's the U.S. president that it somehow seems acceptable? If Stephen Harper said:

"My biggest concern is that George Bush says, 'Well, we're kind of tired of Iraq and, therefore, we think we're going to leave,".

You are greatly altering the structure of his statement to make your point. Plus, George Bush said NOTHING about Stephen Harper. You are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

No, you are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. enough said.

Seriously, you turned a hypothetical that Bush posed into an attack on someone that wasn't even mentioned.

I agree with you completely. So much for Bush giving our allies a compliment. Bush is damned if he does and damned if he dosen't.

[stephandmuz 0]

So, you would have been happier had he not thanked Canada for their help in Afghanistan?

I too, after reading the article, thought "umm...what was said in this that would offend ANYone?" The comment about people pulling out of afghanistan wasn't directed toward any certain person or country, he simply stated that it was a concern of his that it COULD happen. It's very possible that it could, but he never said "I'm worried Canada will pull out."

I will say that I was only in 9th grade when 9/11 happened, and I had no idea that we even got help from Canada at that time (I mostly heard about the UK helping). So I am by far more ignorant in this field than most, but I wanted to state my opinion on that article. I can understand why you would be offended that he never thanked you for helping us in 9/11....but I don't see how you can criticize him for standing up and thanking you now.

because one of the major public weapons in diplomacy is thanking or withholding thanks. see:

"Bush and Rice's remarks about Canada were made in light of criticism against NATO countries like France and Germany, which have only deployed troops to parts of Afghanistan that are relatively peaceful."

The very public thanks this week weren't really directed towards Canada-they were meant to send a message to France and Germany. Ignoring Canadian contributions for years and only sending Rice to publicly thank Canada when the administration wanted to call out other countries is piling insults on top of the original insult of not acknowledging Canada since 2001.

Now this is what you call reading into.... Good Grief

[trailmix 77]

Is it because it's the U.S. president that it somehow seems acceptable? If Stephen Harper said:

"My biggest concern is that George Bush says, 'Well, we're kind of tired of Iraq and, therefore, we think we're going to leave,".

You are greatly altering the structure of his statement to make your point. Plus, George Bush said NOTHING about Stephen Harper. You are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

No, you are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. enough said.

Seriously, you turned a hypothetical that Bush posed into an attack on someone that wasn't even mentioned.

I agree with you completely. So much for Bush giving our allies a compliment. Bush is damned if he does and damned if he dosen't.

It was an analogy for heaven's sake. Thermophile I think you hit the nail on the head.

And yes he is and he brought it on himself.

[thermophile 0]

Now this is what you call reading into.... Good Grief

that's what the subtle dance of diplomacy is all about

[Emancipation 2]

But many Americans are aware of all that Canada has done to help us. My favorite tribute was the owner of a bar that I've frequented in MT dropped all Canadian pints to $1 the last week of September 2001 and hasn't raised them yet. There's a note saying Thank You Canada on the sign with the price of a pint.

There is hope then my friend.. i have not heard of stories such as this one.. Most Americans IMO have no clue where all those US bound International flights went on 9/11 and how CDNs gave Americans refuge, and food, and comfort during those dark hours. How our firemen and emergency workers up and quit their jobs in some cases to go to NYC to help our our neighbors in their time of need.. I am proud of our Country's contribution to the war on terror and her voice of reason in the midst of some turbulent times.. It does help to know that SOMEONE SOMEWHERE has clued into Canada's role in the "war on terror"...

It is hard to remember that when listening to Mr. President... His words are calculated, and his lack of thanks and gratitude for our Nation and our contributions in Afghanistan (I realize now I made an error in my "feisty" post earlier ), has peeved me off like no other news note of the past few years. We have been brothers for so long and I find it such an insult that when the "younger" brother decides to make a decision for once on his own, the "elder" takes a tantrum and decides that he'll embrace "cousin England".. Diplomacy Sheesh...

Edited December 21, 2007 by Emancipation

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

"We checked into his assertions, and they're true," Bush said. "So this is a society that is evolving."

I always thought Bush didn't believe in evolution.

[thermophile 0]

evolving as in very very small changes. nothing new can result from BushWorld evolution

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

evolving as in very very small changes. nothing new can result from BushWorld evolution

You are absolutely right. Extinction comes from very big changes.

[PlatyPius 5]

Considering what a chopf##k Bush is, I wouldn't worry too much about him not thanking Canada personally. I mean....that would be like getting thanked by a genocidal maniac. Would that *really* make anyone happy?

Y'all will just have to satisfied with the small voices of thanks in the wilderness. ie: the American people themselves.

[joelunchbox 0]

Oh dear, you forgot to put the warning:

Bush actually gives an opinion in this article

I find it insulting that he spouts his views on what other countries are doing elsewhere and implies they might get tired of it.

Canada is there for the Afghans - not for George, despite what he might think to the contrary.

Excellent point--if everyone would go to do help the country involved instead of ,,,,say getting rich? (just wait for busy to leave, and the dam holding back the profiteering in Iraq is going to burst)

The best thing we can do for ourselves is to help other countries. And I mean real help not the I got rich kind of help. That keeps coming up in conjuction with the present administration.....