Father kills 16 year old Canadian girl

[no name 1]

wowsa.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Meltdown!

[Fandango 1,439]

Hot dogs, peanuts! $10 each!

[almaty 19]

vj sheesh

[mawilson 2,133]

Did you even bother to read the second half of what I wrote or did you just jump ahead to write whatever moronic thoughts bounced around your pea-sized brain?

Where's Mags when you need her?

[Alex+R 0]

The award for most overt and aggressive-aggressive flame of 2007 goes to...

[Caladan 19]

Right, but if your advice (say) were 'Don't approve this Muslim family from Indonesia, because they practice honor killings,' that would be bad advice.

Wait, I thought you said that Indonesian Muslims didn't practice honor killings?

I'm not saying "deny all petitions from Muslims", but at least our immigration

forms should include questions like "have you or any member of your family

ever been involved in honor killings".

That way, if they answer 'no' and later get caught doing that ####, not only

do they get to go to jail, they also get to go home -- permanently -- even they

are US citizens! (Citizenship can be revoked if they are found to have lied on

immigration forms.)

As to the rest of it, cultural sensitivity my ###. This isn't about dietary restrictions or wanting time to pray. If you're in the U.S. and your murder your daughter, you get to go to jail. If you mutilate her, same thing. If you beat your wife, hey, see the pattern? No excuse based on what you think God is telling you.

Agreed.

Read my first sentence again; I think you inserted a 'not' in there. It would be wrong to deny an Indonesian Muslim on honor killing grounds because they don't generally practice it. (It's a rural/urban thing even in countries where it does occur.) But it's moot now that you've explained what you mean.

Anyhow, I'm not sure your immigration form, as posed, would help. If a person has committed an honor killing, they're inadmissible, but if they haven't (honestly) and later do, that doesn't mean they lied on the earlier form. Not grounds for deportation. But I see what you're getting at, whether it's counseling for asylum applicants on Here is What is Done in This Enlightenment Country Get With the Program (form I-getaclue), or pointing out that if they kill their kids, we're sending them back.

[no name 1]

The award for most overt and aggressive-aggressive flame of 2007 goes to...

passive-aggressive you mean? He holds more than one year's award, methinks...

[Alex+R 0]

The award for most overt and aggressive-aggressive flame of 2007 goes to...

passive-aggressive you mean? He holds more than one year's award, methinks...

I didn't see anything passive there

But I see what you're getting at, whether it's counseling for asylum applicants on Here is What is Done in This Enlightenment Country Get With the Program (form I-getaclue), or pointing out that if they kill their kids, we're sending them back.

So few things make me actually LOL this days...

[mawilson 2,133]

Anyhow, I'm not sure your immigration form, as posed, would help. If a person has committed an honor killing, they're inadmissible, but if they haven't (honestly) and later do, that doesn't mean they lied on the earlier form. Not grounds for deportation.

How about a questionnaire like the one Gupt posted earlier?

Select option #1 and you're inadmissible (#1 being "the family should kill her to wipe out the disgrace")

Thought police? Perhaps, but it's no worse than asking "have you ever been a member

of the Communist party" which makes you inadmissible today.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Anyhow, I'm not sure your immigration form, as posed, would help. If a person has committed an honor killing, they're inadmissible, but if they haven't (honestly) and later do, that doesn't mean they lied on the earlier form. Not grounds for deportation.

How about a questionnaire like the one Gupt posted earlier?

Select option #1 and you're inadmissible (#1 being "the family should kill her to wipe out the disgrace")

Thought police? Perhaps, but it's no worse than asking "have you ever been a member

of the Communist party" which makes you inadmissible today.

That sounds reasonable.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Rodeo = barbaric

Bullfighting = barbaric

Boxing = barbaric

Extreme fighting = barbaric

Dog fighting = barbaric

Reading derogatory and insipidly racist posts on VJ from people with claims of cultural and moral superiority = PRICELESS

[no name 1]

Rodeo = barbaric

Bullfighting = barbaric

Boxing = barbaric

Extreme fighting = barbaric

Dog fighting = barbaric

Reading derogatory and insipidly racist posts on VJ from people with claims of cultural and moral superiority = PRICELESS

so (honor) killing someone is not barbaric?

Edited December 11, 2007 by devilette

[Jenn! 918]

Rodeo = barbaric

Bullfighting = barbaric

Boxing = barbaric

Extreme fighting = barbaric

Dog fighting = barbaric

Reading derogatory and insipidly racist posts on VJ from people with claims of cultural and moral superiority = PRICELESS

[eric&gen 0]

Horrible just focking Horrible.