Physical Green card

[Captain Oates 911]

hi

takes 30 working days.... = 7 weeks becos of high load.

Jigi

High workload my middle aged bottom

they are creating workload by their own slap-dash errors

they have a department doing nothing else but sort out their self-generated messes and it takes months to do anything

they could not organize a good time in a brewery that lot

The whole crew sound like they have been selected for having attention deficit and/or learning difficulties and are then force fed tranquilisers and sleeping tablets before starting work each day

I used to manage a department of 30 who had a lot of data input and I would have strung myself up rather than run a shower of an operation like this...its not the number of immigrants, it's the pathetic, authoritarian, closed - minded, old-fashioned, robotic and error tolerant system - and that is management's fault.

The standards by which they judge themselves are lower than whale poo and that is the problem

I have toned this down as I dont want to sound too judgemental

Edited December 5, 2007 by saywhat

[Jigi 0]

hi,

I agree with you Alan, but we have to respect the law of the country

Lets keep it that way only.

Jigi

[Captain Oates 911]

hi,

I agree with you Alan, but we have to respect the law of the country

Lets keep it that way only.

Jigi

Don't talk total TOSH ! - it isn't the law of the country that government departments should be massively incompetant in their work systems

The USCIS are obstructing the law of the land being carried out quickly and efficiently as intended - not me !

I WANT the law to be carried out whereas you are happy to see the legislation frustrated by the administration because you are scared to criticize in case they pick on you and you think that sucking up to them will help you

By being submissive to this you perpetuate the problem

Don't worry, they are not reading this and they won't throw you out for not being servile

[trailmix 77]

hi,

I agree with you Alan, but we have to respect the law of the country

Lets keep it that way only.

Jigi

Don't talk total TOSH ! - it isn't the law of the country that government departments should be massively incompetant in their work systems

The USCIS are obstructing the law of the land being carried out quickly and efficiently as intended - not me !

I WANT the law to be carried out whereas you are happy to see the legislation frustrated by the administration because you are scared to criticize in case they pick on you and you think that sucking up to them will help you

By being submissive to this you perpetuate the problem

Don't worry, they are not reading this and they won't throw you out for not being servile

Well that is good to know! I personally don't do well with servile. Alan is right Jigi, I don't think there are any laws on the books for this particular mess. It is a common thread in most (not all, there must be some good ones out there) government departments in all countries.

What I see with USCIS is a system that is getting more and more maze like as it grows. They keep throwing cups of water on the fire - like having you exchange this fee for that form, then another fee for another form - who in their right mind would ever imagine, let alone implement, a system like that?

I'll answer that myself - a person who is trying to think of a way to slow everyone down (instead of thinking up a solid way to make the process work right).

[Captain Oates 911]

hi,

I agree with you Alan, but we have to respect the law of the country

Lets keep it that way only.

Jigi

Don't talk total TOSH ! - it isn't the law of the country that government departments should be massively incompetant in their work systems

The USCIS are obstructing the law of the land being carried out quickly and efficiently as intended - not me !

I WANT the law to be carried out whereas you are happy to see the legislation frustrated by the administration because you are scared to criticize in case they pick on you and you think that sucking up to them will help you

By being submissive to this you perpetuate the problem

Don't worry, they are not reading this and they won't throw you out for not being servile

Well that is good to know! I personally don't do well with servile. Alan is right Jigi, I don't think there are any laws on the books for this particular mess. It is a common thread in most (not all, there must be some good ones out there) government departments in all countries.

What I see with USCIS is a system that is getting more and more maze like as it grows. They keep throwing cups of water on the fire - like having you exchange this fee for that form, then another fee for another form - who in their right mind would ever imagine, let alone implement, a system like that?

I'll answer that myself - a person who is trying to think of a way to slow everyone down (instead of thinking up a solid way to make the process work right).

I was a bit hard on Jigi there - taking out my frustrations - sorry

But Trailmix I came to the same conclusion today - it's deliberate and piling up a one year queue works once only - then it stays an expensive mess

They should be more honest about it and impose a quota on family visas or a points system and then administer it right. At least we would know where we stood then

alan

Edited December 5, 2007 by saywhat

[JA Tam 7]

Tam my hubbys GC came about 7wks or so

Thanks Kimmy

[SHELLYandFCO 0]

If mine is right I will parcel tape it to my chest and never bathe again - If its someone else's photo and they are better looking than me I might just keep ialan

[Captain Oates 911]

5 weeks today and no sign of green card - expecting it in the name of hillary clinton with george bush's photo on it at the end of next week...

taking my temporary driver's license to the DMV today as it is expiring

they would not give me a proper license until the USCIS confirm that my IR1 visa is not a fake ! we VJ people know how long that is going to take .... that could be years but the DMV hinted that they would just issue a license if the USCIS dont respond in a month... we will see today

still no car title

still no SS card

still no 'real' driver's license

but i have received real car license plates with a little yellow peel off date sticker that would not survive the vandals for one evening in the UK

Edited December 10, 2007 by saywhat

[hhN400 3]

My wife's green card finally arrived last Friday, about eleven weeks after she entered the US. I guess anything within three, four months is to be considered normal these days.

[Captain Oates 911]

My wife's green card finally arrived last Friday, about eleven weeks after she entered the US. I guess anything within three, four months is to be considered normal these days.

That is pretty dire..

As they are all issued from Mesquite Texas, I wonder why the big disparity in 'time to issue' times ?

I know there will be a few days difference in going from various POEs to the USCIS, but one would imagine that they all proceed along a conveyor belt..

I saw 3 or 4 VJ folk who were reporting spot on 7 weeks - so 11 weeks is undenkbar

NOTHING would surprise me... don't even think I will apply for citizenship as that means handing the green card in and WAITING.. Think I will just hope to die before the 10 years is out on the green card

Edited December 10, 2007 by saywhat

[milimelo 4,466]

Let me join the club of those who still do not have the physical green card.

For me, it has been close to 6 months - I arrived on 5/31, first welcome letter 7/6 then another one on 7/19. Called the useless info line first in October as I wanted to give them time since they had the fee increase in July. Told me the same thing I can see on case status online - it has been approved but they do not know why I still do not have it and they will do the "service info request" or whatever that is called and that I should call back on 11/29. I call on 11/29 no news, but the guy tells me call tomorrow maybe we will have news then. I call on 11/30 only to be told by a lady that since I called the day before I now need to wait another 30 days before I call them back.

Now I am just going to make an Infopass for next week and go see should I just apply for a replacement of the card I never received.

I hope no one else has to go through anything similar to the above!

[Captain Oates 911]

Let me join the club of those who still do not have the physical green card.

For me, it has been close to 6 months - I arrived on 5/31, first welcome letter 7/6 then another one on 7/19. Called the useless info line first in October as I wanted to give them time since they had the fee increase in July. Told me the same thing I can see on case status online - it has been approved but they do not know why I still do not have it and they will do the "service info request" or whatever that is called and that I should call back on 11/29. I call on 11/29 no news, but the guy tells me call tomorrow maybe we will have news then. I call on 11/30 only to be told by a lady that since I called the day before I now need to wait another 30 days before I call them back.

Now I am just going to make an Infopass for next week and go see should I just apply for a replacement of the card I never received.

I hope no one else has to go through anything similar to the above!

That's tough it really is...

Yes info pass sounds the way to go

As soon as they confirm it was sent out, you can just do the 'lost greencard' thing which is very common and should work.

If they say it wasnt sent out then you want it NOW

Its one or the other...

If mine is not here by the end of next week (7 weeks) I will do an infopass because that is scary..

We all think the 12 months temporary endorsement on the visa is plenty of time to deal with the USCIS and receive the green card but I always thought that limit could be bumped easily

You have my sympathy with this but now you are doing infopass I think the problem will be solved

very good luck

alan

[JA Tam 7]

My wife's green card finally arrived last Friday, about eleven weeks after she entered the US. I guess anything within three, four months is to be considered normal these days.

How long after the welcome notice did she get her greencard?

[JA Tam 7]

Let me join the club of those who still do not have the physical green card.

For me, it has been close to 6 months - I arrived on 5/31, first welcome letter 7/6 then another one on 7/19. Called the useless info line first in October as I wanted to give them time since they had the fee increase in July. Told me the same thing I can see on case status online - it has been approved but they do not know why I still do not have it and they will do the "service info request" or whatever that is called and that I should call back on 11/29. I call on 11/29 no news, but the guy tells me call tomorrow maybe we will have news then. I call on 11/30 only to be told by a lady that since I called the day before I now need to wait another 30 days before I call them back.

Now I am just going to make an Infopass for next week and go see should I just apply for a replacement of the card I never received.

I hope no one else has to go through anything similar to the above!

I hope the Infopass will work this out for you. When I had to replace my 10 year GC, it was the year that Fort Lauderdale got hit by Hurricane Wilma. The USCIS Application Support Center had roof damage, but was open within a month. They did my fingerprints and by that afternoon, they had my GC ready for me. Hopefully they will be able to give it to you same day. I am not sure if that is a regular occurence what happened with me or if it was because we had a natural disaster.

[hhN400 3]

My wife's green card finally arrived last Friday, about eleven weeks after she entered the US. I guess anything within three, four months is to be considered normal these days.

How long after the welcome notice did she get her greencard?

She has received two welcome notices, with identical wording, but different mailing dates, both basically just saying that the paperwork had been forwarded to USCIS from the POE, and that further communication would follow within 30 days. The first one (dated Nov. 1) arrived on Nov. 16, i.e., about three weeks before the Green Card arrived. The second one (dated Dec. 1) arrived one day after the Green Card. I guess the purpose of the second notice was just to keep the promise made in the first one since its mailing date is exactly 30 days after the first one, and somewhere along the line they actually managed to produce and mail out the actual Green Card.