Got Blue

[MR2nice 0]

It's sad to know that some of these Blue Slips may have been made prior to the interview. My question is how can they when they have not seen all of the evidences?? I was under the impression that we gather all of our supporting evidences and to have our fiancees bring them on the interview day. Or am I missing something here?? Are we suppose to send them all of the evidences anytime before the interview? Because I only send out the primary evidences as part of my package (no emails, no letters, no phone bills). I only submitted passport stamps, engagement pictures, airline ticket stubs of trips I've made with her to Nha Trang twice, and bank statements of transaction made while I was in Vietnam. I do have all the secondary evidences which I will bring back for my finacee when she has her interview. That's what I don't get about this entire process. Presuming that all of the evidences are to be brought on the interview day, how can they issue a Blue Slip without seeing the evidences??? Very frustrating and disturbing to hear in my opinion.

[Kevin and 10]

I got a copy of our Blue Paper.

1. Tuyen didn't have her Police Certificate in time. She procrastinated on getting it and waited until the 2 weeks before her interview. I told her 3-4 months ago to get it too. Then one of the officials at the office was fired so it delayed the Cert even longer.

2. HCM wants a detailed timeline of our relationship from me.

She had everything in order.

There were 2 questions that she could have done better.

1. They asked how long I and her brother have known each other(18 years). She thought they were asking about Tuyen and I (2 years).

2. They asked if I call her on the phone. When a simple Yes or No would have worked , she said "Not much, because its hard to understand on the phone."

I sent the timeline letter yesterday. She is going back to HCM this week to drop off the requested items. Fingers cross for PINK.

[Cuong 0]

I got a copy of our Blue Paper.

1. Tuyen didn't have her Police Certificate in time. She procrastinated on getting it and waited until the 2 weeks before her interview. I told her 3-4 months ago to get it too. Then one of the officials at the office was fired so it delayed the Cert even longer.

2. HCM wants a detailed timeline of our relationship from me.

She had everything in order.

There were 2 questions that she could have done better.

1. They asked how long I and her brother have known each other(18 years). She thought they were asking about Tuyen and I (2 years).

2. They asked if I call her on the phone. When a simple Yes or No would have worked , she said "Not much, because its hard to understand on the phone."

I sent the timeline letter yesterday. She is going back to HCM this week to drop off the requested items. Fingers cross for PINK.

Can I ask you 2 questions? 1. what is Police Certificate and what is it call in vietnamese? 2. what's a timeline letter? Hope you guys get pink soon.

[chuckandkim 0]

I got a copy of our Blue Paper.

1. Tuyen didn't have her Police Certificate in time. She procrastinated on getting it and waited until the 2 weeks before her interview. I told her 3-4 months ago to get it too. Then one of the officials at the office was fired so it delayed the Cert even longer.

2. HCM wants a detailed timeline of our relationship from me.

She had everything in order.

There were 2 questions that she could have done better.

1. They asked how long I and her brother have known each other(18 years). She thought they were asking about Tuyen and I (2 years).

2. They asked if I call her on the phone. When a simple Yes or No would have worked , she said "Not much, because its hard to understand on the phone."

I sent the timeline letter yesterday. She is going back to HCM this week to drop off the requested items. Fingers cross for PINK.

In all fairness, Kevin, do you think the blue slip was justified? I don't want people have the negative impression toward the CO, but be objective and openminded in their preparation of the interview. What some of you said "I don't understand, this should be a walk in the park, get throu it in your sleep type of deals etc." this is NOT at all the easiest deal I've ever seen in my life. That was then, when I thought I have to have this, I have to that to pass and missing the whole thing, the Big Picture.

Kevin saw it and he was calm throu the whole thing. As Kevin mentioned and I believe it is the major set back for his case: Police Certification of Lack of Criminal Record (Giay Chung Nhan Khong Co Tien An, Tien Su) is a BIG one! That's the only thing I find CO could not and would not give her a PINK slip. Think: no criminal record or background check, which is the big deal in the age of Terrorist-fear, you can't have a Visa to come to the USA. Pretty simple to me! Again, it's not their job to prove that you're deserved the Visa, it is yours!

Kevin, I think you are very understanding and you do see the big picture through out the journey. Expect nothing but PINK when you return on the board. Be well OK, get the PC to the CO asap!

Cuong, Timeline is a self describe letter of you and your fiance's history. Chronically listed the date, length of time, duration, frequency that you two were together or had spent together, or are being together. HOWEVER, the intention of this letter is an opportunity for you, in this case is KEVIN, to show the CO in writing that your relationship is an ON-GOING with strong intention to get married. Not just one-night-in-paradise type of marriage. The other question, I've mentioned above.

Good luck and look beyond this blue slip! I know some of you are scare and fear for your case. It happened before, blue slip happens! Think PINK.

[HQMP 0]

Can I ask you 2 questions? 1. what is Police Certificate and what is it call in vietnamese? 2. what's a timeline letter? Hope you guys get pink soon.

Hi Cuong,

Police Cert = "Ly' Li.ch Tu+ Pha'p" do "So+? Tu+ Pha'p" chung va cap.

Hope that helps.

[Cuong 0]

Thankyou all for helping me out. I'm kinda new at this and I have no idea what to do. I've sent in my I-130 form and got my NOA 1 already, still waiting on the second one. My case is kind of similar to Kevin and Tuyen's case. My wife and I have known each other for only 9 months before we got married. My di tu is her mo (Maternal uncle's wife, aunt) so there's no blood related or even related. We did not have an engagement party either because of timing and my parent availability. We got married on my first trip back there because my parent went with me back and it's very difficult for them and me to take the same days off of work. Anyways.....I didn't really prepare the paperwork for marriage in Vietnam on my first trip back because I didn't know how it work, I just brought back the Single Status paper and that's it. We couldn't get the marriage certificate so I went back to the U.S. and got all the paperwork done and went back there 5 months later to get our marriage certificate done and we also had a wedding ceremony in church and a small party at her house.

[Kevin and 10]

I got a copy of our Blue Paper.

1. Tuyen didn't have her Police Certificate in time. She procrastinated on getting it and waited until the 2 weeks before her interview. I told her 3-4 months ago to get it too. Then one of the officials at the office was fired so it delayed the Cert even longer.

2. HCM wants a detailed timeline of our relationship from me.

She had everything in order.

There were 2 questions that she could have done better.

1. They asked how long I and her brother have known each other(18 years). She thought they were asking about Tuyen and I (2 years).

2. They asked if I call her on the phone. When a simple Yes or No would have worked , she said "Not much, because its hard to understand on the phone."

I sent the timeline letter yesterday. She is going back to HCM this week to drop off the requested items. Fingers cross for PINK.

In all fairness, Kevin, do you think the blue slip was justified? I don't want people have the negative impression toward the CO, but be objective and openminded in their preparation of the interview. What some of you said "I don't understand, this should be a walk in the park, get throu it in your sleep type of deals etc." this is NOT at all the easiest deal I've ever seen in my life. That was then, when I thought I have to have this, I have to that to pass and missing the whole thing, the Big Picture.

Kevin saw it and he was calm throu the whole thing. As Kevin mentioned and I believe it is the major set back for his case: Police Certification of Lack of Criminal Record (Giay Chung Nhan Khong Co Tien An, Tien Su) is a BIG one! That's the only thing I find CO could not and would not give her a PINK slip. Think: no criminal record or background check, which is the big deal in the age of Terrorist-fear, you can't have a Visa to come to the USA. Pretty simple to me! Again, it's not their job to prove that you're deserved the Visa, it is yours!

Kevin, I think you are very understanding and you do see the big picture through out the journey. Expect nothing but PINK when you return on the board. Be well OK, get the PC to the CO asap!

Cuong, Timeline is a self describe letter of you and your fiance's history. Chronically listed the date, length of time, duration, frequency that you two were together or had spent together, or are being together. HOWEVER, the intention of this letter is an opportunity for you, in this case is KEVIN, to show the CO in writing that your relationship is an ON-GOING with strong intention to get married. Not just one-night-in-paradise type of marriage. The other question, I've mentioned above.

Good luck and look beyond this blue slip! I know some of you are scare and fear for your case. It happened before, blue slip happens! Think PINK.

Yes I would have give a Blue.

1. No Police Cert.

2. Questionable timing

3. Contradict self in interview.

No its not a walk in the park. When I started this process in 2005 It was dealing with the VN Consulate in SF and the State of MN. Then I had to contend with the the Officials from Dong Nai. After that its DHS and NVC. Finally get to the US Consulate in HCM.

Easy? NO WAY!

Is it done after Tuyen get her visa? No!

Frustrated and stressed? Yes

When you love someone its worth it.

[Thai 0]

i'd curse the sh it out of her if she didnt have everything ready, glumpsy girl ur geting there

[Jamie76 0]

Thai, your sage advice was most helpful Lord have mercy on your SO

[chuckandkim 0]

Thai,

I am speechless for your lack of support and compassion toward your fellow VJ and Vietnamese American brother. Please refrain from speaking in such negative language. Explain to me for once: How in the world you think by CURSING Kevin's fiance would bring her here in the US? Did you do that? Missing the point and lose focus are the sure way to get yourself more stressful and lost in this Journey. Remember, your journey is FAR from being over. Have you gotten married yet? BTW!

Read what Kevin says, he's determined more than ever to get the Visa. I commend him for it!

Love,

Chuck and Kim

[ding 1]

Kevin has a lucky girl to have a guy like this, I'd say.

Good luck Kevin and Tuyen. I think you're right. Your letter should solve it. But... Do you have a token bit of evidence or written statement from others to send along too?

[Kevin and 10]

I sent my letter and timeline on Monday with UPS and it is being held up in HCM. Tuyen was supposed to go to HCM today.

Status: Exception

See description below

Shipped To: TP. BEIN HOA, VN

Shipped/Billed On: 08/20/2007

Service: EXPRESS

Package Progress

Location Date Local Time Description

HO CHI MINH CITY,

VN 08/23/2007 5:35 P.M. THE SHIPMENT IS BEING HELD BY BROKERAGE FOR REASONS BEYOND UPS' CONTROL

08/23/2007 4:29 P.M. IMPORT SCAN

[Dave_Thao 0]

Kevin,

I hope it gets there soon and you can convince the consulate your relationship is real. I had to send a similar letter to the consulate for our case. They wanted a timeline on how we met. Unfortunately, I couldn't convince them we are legit. My prayers are with you and Tuyen. Go for the Pink!

Dave

[Cuong 0]

Kevin,

I hope it gets there soon and you can convince the consulate your relationship is real. I had to send a similar letter to the consulate for our case. They wanted a timeline on how we met. Unfortunately, I couldn't convince them we are legit. My prayers are with you and Tuyen. Go for the Pink!

Dave

Since you couldn't convince the CO that your relationship is real, what is your next move? Hope you’ll find another way to convince them and get that pink slip. Best of luck to you and Thao, Kevin and Tuyen.

[Dave_Thao 0]

Cuong,

I don't know what I need to do to convince them. I included all our evidence(I mean every last bit of evidence) in our new petition. My package was 3 inches thick. I also got statements from co-workers, family and friends saying that we are legit and we want to marry and start a family. I plan on being there for the next interview, probably in April, with more evidence. It will be my third trip there. They may deny us again for the very same reasons or find something else to delay us. That is why I hope Kevin and Tuyen can convince them now and not go thru what I had to do.

Good luck to you and Kevin!