Removing conditions!

[Dakine 26]

Just wondered what "conditions" you remove when you file the I-751?

Can a person apply for USC if I-751 approval is still pending ?

Seems pretty weird a spouse who can apply for USC in 3 years can apply for USC a few months after they get an approved I-751.

Yeah!

I never have understood all the the whys, reasons, dos and don't for a LOT of requirements in the entire process.

Hope I never will!

Just want to get it ALL done and live a normal life again.

[lucyrich 20]

Can a person apply for USC if I-751 approval is still pending ?

Yes, you may file an N-400 requesting citizenship even if they haven't yet looked at your I-751 (assuming your I-751 was filed on time).

A few years ago, that situation was very common, because it used to be common to take a couple of years to approve the I-751. Nowadays, most I-751s are handled in significantly less than a year, so it's rare to still have a pending I-751 when you're eligible to file for citizenship.

You can't be GRANTED citizenship with a pending I-751, however. So if you file your N-400 while your I-751 is still pending, they'll be forced to adjudicate your I-751 before they can adjudicate the N-400. They'd typically send the I-751 to the same officer who had your N-400, and adjudicate them together.

[cleverkat 0]

You can't be GRANTED citizenship with a pending I-751, however. So if you file your N-400 while your I-751 is still pending, they'll be forced to adjudicate your I-751 before they can adjudicate the N-400. They'd typically send the I-751 to the same officer who had your N-400, and adjudicate them together.

I`ve heard that, too, but I never could find it written on official websites. I am in situation when I filed I-751 in 04/02, and it is still pending (assuming that as Congressional assistance told me recently the word "granted" means that the officer is still looking-yeah, tell me about it!) Anyways, I filed N-400 in 12/06 (no fingerprints yet). Do you have any suggestions or recomendation on my case?

[vsmtghdy 2]

Just wondered what "conditions" you remove when you file the I-751?

Can a person apply for USC if I-751 approval is still pending ?

Seems pretty weird a spouse who can apply for USC in 3 years can apply for USC a few months after they get an approved I-751.

Yeah!

I never have understood all the the whys, reasons, dos and don't for a LOT of requirements in the entire process.

Hope I never will!

Just want to get it ALL done and live a normal life again.

CR visa category is a Conditional Resident and as such need to "Remove Conditions" (by filing I-751) before the GC expires. CR visas are given a 2-year Conditional Permanent Resident GC and 90 days before the GC expires, he/she needs to remove the conditions and onced approved, he/she will receive a 10-year GC.

[Dakine 26]

Just wondered what "conditions" you remove when you file the I-751?

Can a person apply for USC if I-751 approval is still pending ?

Seems pretty weird a spouse who can apply for USC in 3 years can apply for USC a few months after they get an approved I-751.

Yeah!

I never have understood all the the whys, reasons, dos and don't for a LOT of requirements in the entire process.

Hope I never will!

Just want to get it ALL done and live a normal life again.

CR visa category is a Conditional Resident and as such need to "Remove Conditions" (by filing I-751) before the GC expires. CR visas are given a 2-year Conditional Permanent Resident GC and 90 days before the GC expires, he/she needs to remove the conditions and onced approved, he/she will receive a 10-year GC.

Thanks Helen but I wasn't asking that. Asking what are the "conditions" you are removing and what

the difference is after you get a 10 year card.

What to you get for classification.? We are CR-6/ CR-7 now before removing conditions.

I think both 2 and 10 year are LPRs. I guess the only difference is the time!

They call it "renewing" for the 10 year and removing conditions for the 2 year.

Don't think 10 year is any more solid or safe than the 2 year.

To me it just looks like another way for USCIS to make $s.

[TinTin and Samby 11]

When I started learning about this whole brave new world, I too was searching for the list of "CONDITIONS" that I was trying to "REMOVE" through the I-751. I finally was able to get it straight in my head by thinking of it like this:

The I-751 is the process to "CHANGE STATUS" of the GC from "CONDITIONAL"(read TEMPORARY) to "PERMANENT".

The first GC (if issued <2 years after marriage) is issued with a CONDITIONAL STATUS as opposed to a PERMANENT STATUS. In order to "remove this CONDITIONAL nature of its status", a I-751 must be filed and approved. When this is approved, the GC can be 'reissued' with a PERMANENT STATUS.

Since the rights and responsibilities of a GC holder are the same while holding a CONDITIONAL STATUS GC and a PERMANENT STATUS GC, the "conditions" that you are 'removing' are the "CONDITIONAL STATUS" (ie temporary nature) of the GC.

Warm Regards,

Samby

[Dakine 26]

The first GC (if issued <2 years after marriage) is issued with a CONDITIONAL STATUS as opposed to a PERMANENT STATUS. In order to "remove this CONDITIONAL nature of its status", a I-751 must be filed and approved. When this is approved, the GC can be 'reissued' with a PERMANENT STATUS.

Both are Lawful Permanent Residents.

Some of you may be CONDITIONAL RESIDENTS. This page applies equally to you while you are in conditional resident status. The difference between you and an unconditioned permanent resident is that your permanent resident status will expire in two years from when it was given, unless you successfully petition to have the condition removed. Those of you with conditional permanent residence either received your residence through a marriage relationship where the marriage was less than two years old at the time you became a Permanent Resident, or you received that status through an investment as an employment creation immigrant (EB-5). If you successfully petition for removal of the condition on your immigration status, this page will still apply to you as a Permanent Resident

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

[TinTin and Samby 11]

The first GC (if issued <2 years after marriage) is issued with a CONDITIONAL STATUS as opposed to a PERMANENT STATUS. In order to "remove this CONDITIONAL nature of its status", a I-751 must be filed and approved. When this is approved, the GC can be 'reissued' with a PERMANENT STATUS.

Both are Lawful Permanent Residents.

Some of you may be CONDITIONAL RESIDENTS. This page applies equally to you while you are in conditional resident status. The difference between you and an unconditioned permanent resident is that your permanent resident status will expire in two years from when it was given, unless you successfully petition to have the condition removed. Those of you with conditional permanent residence either received your residence through a marriage relationship where the marriage was less than two years old at the time you became a Permanent Resident, or you received that status through an investment as an employment creation immigrant (EB-5). If you successfully petition for removal of the condition on your immigration status, this page will still apply to you as a Permanent Resident

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

Hi Beckypua, not sure if i get the reason for your quote of my comment, we are saying exactly the same thing. It is only the "LENGTH OF VALIDITY" that is different between an initial 2 year CONDITIONAL GC and the GC that is issued after successfully going through the I-751 process. All other aspects are the same (ie rights, responsibilities).

If I missed the point you were making, please excuse me and I would welcome your clarification. Thanks!

Warm Regards,

Samby

Edited July 28, 2007 by Samby

[lucyrich 20]

Hi Beckypua, not sure if i get the reason for your quote of my comment, we are saying exactly the same thing. It is only the "LENGTH OF VALIDITY" that is different between an initial 2 year CONDITIONAL GC and the GC that is issued after successfully going through the I-751 process. All other aspects are the same (ie rights, responsibilities).

Basically almost right. The other thing that varies is what happens when the card expires.

When a two year card expires, the STATUS it represents also expires, unless you file the I-751. You have the burden of proving the validity of the relationship with the I-751. If you let the status expire without filing for an I-751, you are subject to removal proceedings. Likewise if you don't sustain the burden of proving your relationship's validity.

When a ten year card expires, the status it represents does NOT expire. The status is permanent (assuming you don't do something to abandon it). To get a replacement card, you fill out a simple administrative form, but you don't have any burden of proof to sustain, any evidence to send, and there's no interview. There's no penalty for being late or for not sending it in at all, except that you'll be left without any way to prove your status until you get a replacement.

[Dakine 26]

The first GC (if issued <2 years after marriage) is issued with a CONDITIONAL STATUS as opposed to a PERMANENT STATUS. In order to "remove this CONDITIONAL nature of its status", a I-751 must be filed and approved. When this is approved, the GC can be 'reissued' with a PERMANENT STATUS.

Both are Lawful Permanent Residents.

Some of you may be CONDITIONAL RESIDENTS. This page applies equally to you while you are in conditional resident status. The difference between you and an unconditioned permanent resident is that your permanent resident status will expire in two years from when it was given, unless you successfully petition to have the condition removed. Those of you with conditional permanent residence either received your residence through a marriage relationship where the marriage was less than two years old at the time you became a Permanent Resident, or you received that status through an investment as an employment creation immigrant (EB-5). If you successfully petition for removal of the condition on your immigration status, this page will still apply to you as a Permanent Resident

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

I was just noting that both are considered a "permanent resident". Don't know why they do tho!

Hi Beckypua, not sure if i get the reason for your quote of my comment, we are saying exactly the same thing. It is only the "LENGTH OF VALIDITY" that is different between an initial 2 year CONDITIONAL GC and the GC that is issued after successfully going through the I-751 process. All other aspects are the same (ie rights, responsibilities).

If I missed the point you were making, please excuse me and I would welcome your clarification. Thanks!

Warm Regards,

Samby