can start application before meeting in person?

[TimsDaisy 0]

It might help give you more background about having to meet if you check out the kind of evidence that is required with the petition that your fiance will be filing on your behalf:

Submit evidence of meeting the meneficiary in person within the two-year period preceding the filing of the petiition. The primary evidence may include airline ticket stubs and receipts (that indicate month, day, and year), copies of passport pages taht show the identification page and admission stamps, military order(s), letter from Commanding Officer, or any evidence that will help the USCIS to determine that the petitioner has met the beneficiary within the two years. The secondary evidence may be film dated photographs of the petitioner and the beneficiary together. The following DOES NOT constitue evidence of meeting: disc, videos, emails, letters, phone bills, and greeting cards.

You can file FROM the Phil, if you want to, depending on how long he'll be there. Have him read, read, read the instructions on the I-129F (go to www.uscis.gov to download) and the guides/faq here on VJ so he know what documents to bring, etc.

RESEARCH is your friend in this process. The more you know, the faster and more calmly you'll get through it. And that's all research you guys will have to do on your own. Time to start your homework. Best of luck!

[*Maureen* 0]

Well when I filed, i had to send proof of "meeting in real in the past two years of submitting the petition), I dont know if things have changed since I filed. Since he is flying out there soon, it probably be best to file the petition when he gets back to the states. Best of Luck!!

Hi from the Philippines. Can my fiance starts to petition me even before meeting in person? We just talk on the phone everyday, my friends, family know him in person, but I havent met him yet, he plans to come soon in my country and we wonder if he can file for K1 fiancee visa before we meet in person so when he comes here and leaves for US, he can bring me with him?

Thanks a lot!

Edited July 18, 2007 by 77Maureen

[foxtobee 1]

No, because you need to sent evidence with your package of meeting in person, like picture with the both of you in it.

And wouldn't you want to spent some time together to get to know eachother personally.

Before we filed we were on the phone on a daily basis as well, but I needed to adjust a bit being in his presence and spent the days with him and being able to hold hands and do other dating stuff.

He proposed to me the day after I arrived, still dealing with jetlag and I was ashtonished, feeling a bit akward at first. I said yes and I had a really fast converstaion in m,y head: Do I want this, what if these 2 weeks show we shouldn't, I don't want to dissapoint him.

I am happy I did say yes, though, because now we've been married for 8 months and it the best life ver so far!!!

well, make sure you meet and know for sure you want to run this process!!!

[foxtobee 1]

USCIS requires proof that you and your fiance met in person 24 months prior to the date the petition is filed.

Imagine someone reviewing the petition. S/he reads that you both met in person August 15, for example. After reading through the documents, s/he notes that the petition was filed September 30. Now factor in that the beneficiary lives in the Philippines. What do you think the response will be?

MM and MS

Hi from the Philippines. Can my fiance starts to petition me even before meeting in person? We just talk on the phone everyday, my friends, family know him in person, but I havent met him yet, he plans to come soon in my country and we wonder if he can file for K1 fiancee visa before we meet in person so when he comes here and leaves for US, he can bring me with him?

Thanks a lot!

No, no, no. Meeting August 15, 2007 and filing the petition September 30, 2007 is perfectly acceptable. You don't have to meet 24 months before you file. There is not a minimum time after meeting in person that you must wait to file the petition. You could prepare everything in advance and file the same day you first meet in person.

The requirement is that sometime within 24 months preceding the filing of the petition, you have met in person at least one time. If the only time you met was 24 months and a day (or longer) before the petition is mailed, you need to see each other in person again before you file the petition.

It is important to read carefully and comprehend all instructions. From the I-129F instructions.

Provide copies of evidence that you and yourfiancé(e) have personally met within the last two years;

"Within" is a keyword in the sentence above.

This is exactly how it is !!!!

We met twice before we filed, I visited him in the USA in feb and he came over april thru may and we filed 2 weeks after he returned back to the USA. And we did get approved, so that's what the answer is.

Edited July 18, 2007 by foxtobee

[eric_and_teresa 10]

I don't quite get how you can even ask this question. For me, I have to meet a person. Communication is wonderful and all that; but to know if we are truly compatible I would have to spend lots of time with that person.

hmmn, it's not your business anyways, just wanted to clarify it because this lady said so, and I doubt about it thats why I posted here.

So I understand from what others has to say; my BF and I have to meet in person, period.

PS

YES, we are very compatible, my relatives know him in person, he is what he is saying on the phone. If you didnt know the answer to my Q, why mind other's business ha?, LOL, zip it.

You go girl. VJ is not the place for moralizing value judgments on the relationships of others.

OP, your rudeness and lack of common sense it's just amazing! Jomo, was just pointing what ANY smart person would point out! Marrying someone you haven't met, isn't a very intelligent thing to do.

Pushbrk, no one is moralizing. Everyone is entitled to give the advice they want. If the OP is so narrow minded to discard what she does not want to hear then fine. As far as I know giving advice about personal stuff is NOT agains the VJ rules... is it?

Also, meeting in person is not only about "having pictures together" for those who are saying, "you need to meet to have pictures". Meeting in person is a REQUIREMENT . The pictures are only secondary evidence.

[asianbeauty 0]

Just make sure you meet in person at some point before filing, that way you can include a bunch of proof of meeting in person, like pictures of you together at various places.

Good luck

Thank you very much, that's the kind of reply I wanted to see, and no other comments, you know what I mean. I didn't want nothing more but direct answer to my post. Thank you to all who directly answer my post!

[Thai Rath 1]

OP, your rudeness and lack of common sense it's just amazing! Jomo, was just pointing what ANY smart person would point out! Marrying someone you haven't met, isn't a very intelligent thing to do.

Pushbrk, no one is moralizing. Everyone is entitled to give the advice they want. If the OP is so narrow minded to discard what she does not want to hear then fine. As far as I know giving advice about personal stuff is NOT agains the VJ rules... is it?

Also, meeting in person is not only about "having pictures together" for those who are saying, "you need to meet to have pictures". Meeting in person is a REQUIREMENT . The pictures are only secondary evidence.

No, the OP and pushbrk were not rude. The OP asked the question "does USCIS require that we have met before filing our petition?" not "VJ members, we don't intend to meet before we get married, do you think that will be good for our relationship?" Answer the question the OP asked.

Besides, the question was of meeting before filing, not meeting before marrying and the OP said that her fiance was coming over to the Phil. soon anyway. Again, just answer the question the OP asked.

[*JG* 2]

Just make sure you meet in person at some point before filing, that way you can include a bunch of proof of meeting in person, like pictures of you together at various places.

Good luck

Yah, that is what I was saying.

[*JG* 2]

I don't quite get how you can even ask this question. For me, I have to meet a person. Communication is wonderful and all that; but to know if we are truly compatible I would have to spend lots of time with that person.

hmmn, it's not your business anyways, just wanted to clarify it because this lady said so, and I doubt about it thats why I posted here.

So I understand from what others has to say; my BF and I have to meet in person, period.

PS

YES, we are very compatible, my relatives know him in person, he is what he is saying on the phone. If you didnt know the answer to my Q, why mind other's business ha?, LOL, zip it.

You go girl. VJ is not the place for moralizing value judgments on the relationships of others.

Yah, I agree with this one. I wasn't trying to be rude. Just pointing out that it is NEVER a good idea to even consider this process before you know you are compatible. You all know how difficult the whole process is. And for those of you who are still going through it, when your SO gets here, there are lots of issues to deal with after. It's not all smooth sailing. A few days here or there or weeks or whatever is still not enough time to know everything about someone. But, at least you have a foundation to work with having seen where they come from and how you two deal with at least some differences of opinions, conflicts, whatever, on a face to face level.

Not moralizing. Just common sense. I hope everyone's process and impending marriages are all sunshine and rainbows. But, in the end, I am a realist. And, I've already been through what most of you are still trying to navigate.

OP, your rudeness and lack of common sense it's just amazing! Jomo, was just pointing what ANY smart person would point out! Marrying someone you haven't met, isn't a very intelligent thing to do.

Pushbrk, no one is moralizing. Everyone is entitled to give the advice they want. If the OP is so narrow minded to discard what she does not want to hear then fine. As far as I know giving advice about personal stuff is NOT agains the VJ rules... is it?

Also, meeting in person is not only about "having pictures together" for those who are saying, "you need to meet to have pictures". Meeting in person is a REQUIREMENT . The pictures are only secondary evidence.

[eric_and_teresa 10]

Besides, the question was of meeting before filing, not meeting before marrying and the OP said that her fiance was coming over to the Phil. soon anyway. Again, just answer the question the OP asked.

I already did! Didn't you read my WHOLE post?

My point is you can't tell people what to answer and what NOT to answer.

[*JG* 2]

I don't quite get how you can even ask this question. For me, I have to meet a person. Communication is wonderful and all that; but to know if we are truly compatible I would have to spend lots of time with that person.

hmmn, it's not your business anyways, just wanted to clarify it because this lady said so, and I doubt about it thats why I posted here.

So I understand from what others has to say; my BF and I have to meet in person, period.

PS

YES, we are very compatible, my relatives know him in person, he is what he is saying on the phone. If you didnt know the answer to my Q, why mind other's business ha?, LOL, zip it.

You go girl. VJ is not the place for moralizing value judgments on the relationships of others.

OP, your rudeness and lack of common sense it's just amazing! Jomo, was just pointing what ANY smart person would point out! Marrying someone you haven't met, isn't a very intelligent thing to do.

Pushbrk, no one is moralizing. Everyone is entitled to give the advice they want. If the OP is so narrow minded to discard what she does not want to hear then fine. As far as I know giving advice about personal stuff is NOT agains the VJ rules... is it?

Also, meeting in person is not only about "having pictures together" for those who are saying, "you need to meet to have pictures". Meeting in person is a REQUIREMENT . The pictures are only secondary evidence.

Yah, I agree with this one. I wasn't trying to be rude. Just pointing out that it is NEVER a good idea to even consider this process before you know you are compatible. You all know how difficult the whole process is. And for those of you who are still going through it, when your SO gets here, there are lots of issues to deal with after. It's not all smooth sailing. A few days here or there or weeks or whatever is still not enough time to know everything about someone. But, at least you have a foundation to work with having seen where they come from, how they treat you around others, and how you two deal with at least some differences of opinions, conflicts, whatever, on a face to face level.

Not moralizing. Just common sense. I hope everyone's process and impending marriages are all sunshine and rainbows. But, in the end, I am a realist. And, I've already been through what most of you are still trying to navigate.

[MM_MS 0]

I should have been more clear, as what I wrote could easily be misunderstood. USICS requires that petitioner and beneficiary meet in person sometime within the 24 months prior to the date the petition is filed.

While the dates used in the example are perfectly acceptable, UCCIS ultimately renders a decision about credibility. Also, the Philippines is a country that USCIS closely scrutinizes. Thus, those applications may receive more careful evaluation than other petitions.

As we've learned, the decisions made about a file depend on who's reviewing the file.

MM and MS

USCIS requires proof that you and your fiance met in person 24 months prior to the date the petition is filed.

Imagine someone reviewing the petition. S/he reads that you both met in person August 15, for example. After reading through the documents, s/he notes that the petition was filed September 30. Now factor in that the beneficiary lives in the Philippines. What do you think the response will be?

MM and MS

Hi from the Philippines. Can my fiance starts to petition me even before meeting in person? We just talk on the phone everyday, my friends, family know him in person, but I havent met him yet, he plans to come soon in my country and we wonder if he can file for K1 fiancee visa before we meet in person so when he comes here and leaves for US, he can bring me with him?

Thanks a lot!

No, no, no. Meeting August 15, 2007 and filing the petition September 30, 2007 is perfectly acceptable. You don't have to meet 24 months before you file. There is not a minimum time after meeting in person that you must wait to file the petition. You could prepare everything in advance and file the same day you first meet in person.

The requirement is that sometime within 24 months preceding the filing of the petition, you have met in person at least one time. If the only time you met was 24 months and a day (or longer) before the petition is mailed, you need to see each other in person again before you file the petition.

It is important to read carefully and comprehend all instructions. From the I-129F instructions.

Provide copies of evidence that you and yourfiancé(e) have personally met within the last two years;

"Within" is a keyword in the sentence above.

[Dakine 26]

Bottomline is don't be concerned about whether to file or not yet!

Try the "shoe on" in all ways and make sure it's fits!

LOTS of peeps fall in love on line and and when they meet in person go their own ways.

Why do you think USCIS has the 2 year of meeting requirement?

[pushbrk 12,824]

I filed papers 14 days after our first meeting, 12 days after our marriage and my wife sailed through the interview at one of the toughest Consulates in the world. She was hardly an exception.

I should have been more clear, as what I wrote could easily be misunderstood. USICS requires that petitioner and beneficiary meet in person sometime within the 24 months prior to the date the petition is filed.

While the dates used in the example are perfectly acceptable, UCCIS ultimately renders a decision about credibility. Also, the Philippines is a country that USCIS closely scrutinizes. Thus, those applications may receive more careful evaluation than other petitions.

As we've learned, the decisions made about a file depend on who's reviewing the file.

MM and MS

USCIS requires proof that you and your fiance met in person 24 months prior to the date the petition is filed.

Imagine someone reviewing the petition. S/he reads that you both met in person August 15, for example. After reading through the documents, s/he notes that the petition was filed September 30. Now factor in that the beneficiary lives in the Philippines. What do you think the response will be?

MM and MS

Hi from the Philippines. Can my fiance starts to petition me even before meeting in person? We just talk on the phone everyday, my friends, family know him in person, but I havent met him yet, he plans to come soon in my country and we wonder if he can file for K1 fiancee visa before we meet in person so when he comes here and leaves for US, he can bring me with him?

Thanks a lot!

No, no, no. Meeting August 15, 2007 and filing the petition September 30, 2007 is perfectly acceptable. You don't have to meet 24 months before you file. There is not a minimum time after meeting in person that you must wait to file the petition. You could prepare everything in advance and file the same day you first meet in person.

The requirement is that sometime within 24 months preceding the filing of the petition, you have met in person at least one time. If the only time you met was 24 months and a day (or longer) before the petition is mailed, you need to see each other in person again before you file the petition.

It is important to read carefully and comprehend all instructions. From the I-129F instructions.

Provide copies of evidence that you and yourfiancé(e) have personally met within the last two years;

"Within" is a keyword in the sentence above.

[pushbrk 12,824]

No, the OP and pushbrk were not rude. The OP asked the question "does USCIS require that we have met before filing our petition?" not "VJ members, we don't intend to meet before we get married, do you think that will be good for our relationship?" Answer the question the OP asked.

Besides, the question was of meeting before filing, not meeting before marrying and the OP said that her fiance was coming over to the Phil. soon anyway. Again, just answer the question the OP asked.

People here are mostly adults and those that aren't have adult family members to preach common sense or whatever to them. This member came asking a legitimate question and got their answer. Preaching anything but obeying the law, is not part of the purpose of VJ. Please resist the temptation to parent the members.