FRONT LOADING AT US EMBASSY LAGOS

[EOC 440]

No doubt i have followed you extensively o this site and respect your expertise on the subject matter.

But note that I WILL BE JUST ONE OF THOSE RARE STATISTICS that came out of LAGOS embassy without frontloading but rather took the chunk and box load of evidence to interview( approximately 14days from now) and CAME OUT APPROVED!!!

WATCH OUT FOR MY REVIEW COME 11TH JUNE!!!!!

ITS A DIVINE CONFIDENCE I KNOW AMNT STANDING ALONE.

what you think????

Just put your faith in God and tell Him that he started this process and He should perfect what He has started in the life of you and your spouse. When the Favour of God is upon you, rules and protocols can be broken. You and your spouse have done all that needs to be done, so just relax and put your trust in God. Come June 11th you are coming here to share your testimony.

[christeen 966]

I think you all are crazy... Or being thick headed... You have access to many personal stories of how difficult Lagos can be and how the system and consulate there works... Yet you choose to ignore it. I believe god helps those that help themselves, and right now, you are not. So if you are denied, does that mean god was not with you or abandoned you in that day?

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

This is how I look at it, when you read the instructions provide the information

they are requesting. If you feel that the information your providing is satisfying

the requirements do it!. I did not front load my petition, So, I read the instructions

about 10 times to make sure that I was supplying the information to supplement the application and submitted it without any problems. Working for the federal government, Ive learned

that the instructions are pretty specific, if you supply the information they

are requesting you shouldn't have any problems. Because you meet the application

requirements. Good Luck! but,every embassy is different. So, check out specifics for

the embassy you will be using.

Working for the feds is not the same as working as an adjudicating immigration officer or CO in Lagos.

Lagos has specific instructions and then a sideline of unspoken "requirements" not comparable to the norm.

Meeting application requirements and actually being approved are a night and day different. Apples and oranges.

Your last sentence about 'every embassy is different' is what the advice was about, it was Lagos specific advice until the

watered down "everything is ok don't worry" comments were posted and will distract from the meat of this thread.

[Chicagoguy 2 27]

This is how I look at it, when you read the instructions provide the information

they are requesting. If you feel that the information your providing is satisfying

the requirements do it!. I did not front load my petition, So, I read the instructions

about 10 times to make sure that I was supplying the information to supplement the application and submitted it without any problems. Working for the federal government, Ive learned

that the instructions are pretty specific, if you supply the information they

are requesting you shouldn't have any problems. Because you meet the application

requirements. Good Luck! but,every embassy is different. So, check out specifics for

the embassy you will be using.

A number of years ago we had a member here who worked at visa center New Hampshire ? or somewhere in the N.E. He was also applying for himself at that time. He said same as Doug. Just send them what they ask for. Follow the instructions. It is actually annoying when they get these big packages because they have to work at taking it all apart.

Probably did not like my indexed 3 ring binder much.

[doshi 1]

Just put your faith in God and tell Him that he started this process and He should perfect what He has started in the life of you and your spouse. When the Favour of God is upon you, rules and protocols can be broken. You and your spouse have done all that needs to be done, so just relax and put your trust in God. Come June 11th you are coming here to share your testimony.

yea Amen

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

i feel like some answers have come so harsh like i am being bullied to accept the answers.

I just may be another slow learner who needs details and some bit of back and forth before understanding is instilled

Now i understand that frontloading isnt techicaly an "official" term as per immigration just some make up by petitioners in the visa process.

I would rather follow what the law says wait for the questions to come during interview based on what was officially sent by the immigration institutions to the embassy as at time of filling and hope the CO ask for more current evidence as per what is stated on their site then i present other than that with "everything been equal" any genuine relationship that God has sanctioned is their time to be together will be approved.

what baffles me sometimes is why SOME and i MEAN some CO's still base their judgement on past interviews of genuinely sham relationships thereby jeopardizing outcomes of genuine ones

There have been no harsh answers but facts from experienced members here.

You have been given detail and there is nothing wrong with not comprehending what was said, however I suggested you get clarity

by asking the questions without infusing your opinion as the advice given was always misunderstood by you.

Yes, frontloading is a VJ term and not an official term.

We all want to do "what the law says" !!!!!! Are you suggesting we gave you advice against the law ?

CO's base their judgement on past interviews because certain things fit or can be viewed as fraudulent.

They aren't mind readers so they have to have a guideline to go by. Sometimes they get it right and sometimes they get it wrong.

This is where you come in to convince them that you are bona fide. The burden of proof rests on you, not them.

my thoughts too.

Follow procedure and hope the best!!!!!

Wrong. Follow procedure AND experience from those gone before you.

[doshi 1]

I think you all are crazy... Or being thick headed... You have access to many personal stories of how difficult Lagos can be and how the system and consulate there works... Yet you choose to ignore it. I believe god helps those that help themselves, and right now, you are not. So if you are denied, does that mean god was not with you or abandoned you in that day?

but what does one do when even on VJ we have divergent views on whether the petitioner/beneficiary/attorney can send extra evidence after a case has already been sent to the embassy.

Simple question if you were scheduled for your interview in lagos and you have extra evidence that came up after you had already concluded with USCIS/NVC

what would YOU do? "frontload" or carry along to interview and hope for best?

Edited May 23, 2014 by doshi

[doshi 1]

Working for the feds is not the same as working as an adjudicating immigration officer or CO in Lagos.

Lagos has specific instructions and then a sideline of unspoken "requirements" not comparable to the norm.

Meeting application requirements and actually being approved are a night and day different. Apples and oranges.

Your last sentence about 'every embassy is different' is what the advice was about, it was Lagos specific advice until the

watered down "everything is ok don't worry" comments were posted and will distract from the meat of this thread.

ebunola if you were in my shoes would you send extra evidence directly to lagos embassy???

candid answer plz

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

A number of years ago we had a member here who worked at visa center New Hampshire ? or somewhere in the N.E. He was also applying for himself at that time. He said same as Doug. Just send them what they ask for. Follow the instructions. It is actually annoying when they get these big packages because they have to work at taking it all apart.

Probably did not like my indexed 3 ring binder much.

That was one AO and I have read through his comments extensively. Unfortunately he did not see the other end at the

embassy and does not understand Lagos.

[doshi 1]

Working for the feds is not the same as working as an adjudicating immigration officer or CO in Lagos.

Lagos has specific instructions and then a sideline of unspoken "requirements" not comparable to the norm.

Meeting application requirements and actually being approved are a night and day different. Apples and oranges.

Your last sentence about 'every embassy is different' is what the advice was about, it was Lagos specific advice until the

watered down "everything is ok don't worry" comments were posted and will distract from the meat of this thread.

are those "unspoken requirements" our imaginations or just a declarative official statement/confession made by an embassy staff

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

ebunola if you were in my shoes would you send extra evidence directly to lagos embassy???

candid answer plz

You may have missed my previous posts ? I don't now how much clearer I can say it.

You can NOT send anything in the mail to the embassy. If you do it will not be accepted. Therefore NO I would never send anything

to the embassy.

Embassies don't accept regular mailings like you send a letter to your auntie ! Security reasons.

Put that out of your mind. Forget it. Focus on your interview. It's too late to 'send' anything.

Should you get refused and your case returned then your petitioner must frontload when re filing, not you !

[christeen 966]

So there is no point to,this thread asking if you should FRONTLOAD when you are already at the interview stage... Too late to FRONTLOAD now... However encouraging others to ignore the reality of the necessity to provide additional relationship at the beginning of the process just because you chose that path is irresponsible. At this point, you are stuck with what you have... They have in their hands your petition containing the bare minimum of evidence... You have a boatload of evidence that you will be carrying with you along with the prayer that they will give two hoots and review it. If this evidence had been included when you filed with uscis, it would have been looked at, now, maybe it will, maybe not. But you can't send anything in now... But if you are denied, I would take steps to help yourself and strongly suggest that you send in more into than the bare minimum listed...

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

are those "unspoken requirements" our imaginations or just a declarative official statement/confession made by an embassy staff

They are PURE, RAW, FACTUAL experiences collectively compiled here for many years.

If you believe everything goes by written procedure only

then you are mistaken. CO's have a wide discretionary field of authority which can be influenced by their personal feeling, instinct

and even personal bias.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Just put your faith in God and tell Him that he started this process and He should perfect what He has started in the life of you and your spouse. When the Favour of God is upon you, rules and protocols can be broken. You and your spouse have done all that needs to be done, so just relax and put your trust in God. Come June 11th you are coming here to share your testimony.

Faith without works is dead. The bolded part is the point of this topic .... have they done all they can do. Questions were

asked, misunderstood and OP seems to seek assurance and soothing rather than facts as he fights against facts.

[doshi 1]

You may have missed my previous posts ? I don't now how much clearer I can say it.

You can NOT send anything in the mail to the embassy. If you do it will not be accepted. Therefore NO I would never send anything

to the embassy.

Embassies don't accept regular mailings like you send a letter to your auntie ! Security reasons.

Put that out of your mind. Forget it. Focus on your interview. It's too late to 'send' anything.

Should you get refused and your case returned then your petitioner must frontload when re filing, not you !

thank you..

hoping the best and trusting in God who cemented the union will be the best option now!!!!