How many IDs to bring to Knightsbridge?

[corvusheart 163]

What do you mean exactly? That his medical has gone to a panel for further scrutiny? What was the issue?

Self-harm and depression from 13 years ago. The doctor says hes not sure if he will pass the medical because of this even though he brought a very good doctors note.

[rhirhi 35]

Self-harm and depression from 13 years ago. The doctor says hes not sure if he will pass the medical because of this even though he brought a very good doctors note.

Usually (from what I've nosed at in medical threads) if the Knightsbridge docs need more info then they just ask the beneficiary to get a letter (or another letter) from their GP and have them fax it over. I don't remember reading any cases where Knightsbridge have failed a person simply for self-harm and depression. Drug abuse, communicable diseases, yes. But mental health issues tend to either need further info from the GP or a psych session. (NOT that I am the expert on any of this, again this is just what I've picked up from reading other threads.)

Are you absolutely certain that the doctor didn't just give the usual "if you've passed you won't hear from us and your results will be with the embassy in a few days, if there are any problems we'll contact you" spiel?

Edited April 22, 2014 by rhirhi

[corvusheart 163]

Usually (from what I've nosed at in medical threads) if the Knightsbridge docs need more info then they just ask the beneficiary to get a letter (or another letter) from their GP and have them fax it over. I don't remember reading any cases where Knightsbridge have failed a person simply for self-harm and depression. Drug abuse, communicable diseases, yes. But mental health issues tend to either need further info from the GP or a psych session. (NOT that I am the expert on any of this, again this is just what I've picked up from reading other threads.)

Are you absolutely certain that the doctor didn't just give the usual "if you've passed you won't hear from us and your results will be with the embassy in a few days, if there are any problems we'll contact you" spiel?

He didn't mention getting another note or even having a psyche exam done just said he could fail because of this and that he will hear something by friday of whats going on.

Edited April 22, 2014 by corvusheart

[QueenOfBlades 224]

He didn't mention getting another note or even having a psyche exam done just said he could fail because of this and that he will hear something by friday of whats going on.

I agree with the other poster, it is highly unusual what you've told us and generally discrepancies with mental health issues are resolved by them asking for more evidence from the beneficiary's GP, or at worst, they request a psychiatric exam. They can't just deny you point blank because of past mental health issues, particularly when they have a doctor's note specifically stating they have no mental health issues at that time and they are not a danger to themselves or others, hence it isn't a Class A condition. I didn't even think the doctor's had the authority to do that anyway, I thought they sent the information to the Embassy and the immigration officer had the final say.

[corvusheart 163]

I agree with the other poster, it is highly unusual what you've told us and generally discrepancies with mental health issues are resolved by them asking for more evidence from the beneficiary's GP, or at worst, they request a psychiatric exam. They can't just deny you point blank because of past mental health issues, particularly when they have a doctor's note specifically stating they have no mental health issues at that time and they are not a danger to themselves or others, hence it isn't a Class A condition. I didn't even think the doctor's had the authority to do that anyway, I thought they sent the information to the Embassy and the immigration officer had the final say.

I guess a lot has changed at Knightsbridge since you've been there Queen. I can't say im surprised.

[QueenOfBlades 224]

I guess a lot has changed at Knightsbridge since you've been there Queen. I can't say im surprised.

In the space of 8 months? Unlikely. The medical thread in the UK forum goes back years and this is unusual by every standard in that topic. The doctors there can't just flat out deny you for that based on the information you've told us. If it were me, I'd be calling them straight back up with some serious questions.

[corvusheart 163]

Apparently now they can flat out deny. I'm thinking of making a denial thread based on mental health so people are aware of the risks they are taking.

[rhirhi 35]

Apparently now they can flat out deny. I'm thinking of making a denial thread based on mental health so people are aware of the risks they are taking.

I'm getting very confused. At first, you told us that they were unsure whether he would pass and that he would hear by Friday if he passes or fails. Now you're saying they just denied him and that's the end of that.

To be honest with you, I've not heard of them calling beneficiaries to give their decision. If it's a misunderstanding then we're trying to help you clear it up. If it's as you say then it's important information for others in your situation in the future, but that information isn't very clear at the moment.

[QueenOfBlades 224]

Apparently now they can flat out deny. I'm thinking of making a denial thread based on mental health so people are aware of the risks they are taking.

No they cannot, and you and your fiance need to get a bit more fire in your belly and fight your corner on this, instead of rolling over saying "oh they can flat out deny now".

Based on what you've told me the past few months, he is NOT ineligible.

http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/general/ineligibilities.html#visa

See section 212(a), specifically these:

(I) to have a physical or mental disorder and behavior associated with the disorder that may pose, or has posed, a threat to the property, safety, or welfare of the alien or others, or

(II) to have had a physical or mental disorder and a history of behavior associated with the disorder, which behavior has posed a threat to the property, safety, or welfare of the alien or others and which behavior is likely to recur or to lead to other harmful behavior, or

(iv) who is determined (in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services) to be a drug abuser or addict, is inadmissible.

You have told me that;

a) He does not have a current physical or mental disorder.

b) The mental disorder he had before with self harm is no longer present, therefore unlikely to recur or lead to other harmful behaviour.

c) He is not a drug abuser or addict.

d) He took a signed letter from a doctor attesting to all of the above.

They cannot flat out deny him without even so much as asking for another letter or referring him for psych. Call them up.

P.S I've never heard of what she's saying either, so I'm not sure if it's miscommunication on their end or taking something the complete wrong way. I've heard of them calling up beneficiaries asking for additional info (like another chest x-ray, etc) but never Knightsbridge "denying" anything. They send the information to the consular officer and the decision is made there.

Edited April 22, 2014 by QueenOfBlades

[corvusheart 163]

Denial is likely but not certain we will find out what will happen on friday. We will know then. But he made it clear a flat-out denial is very possible.

[Hotter Otter 1,211]

Well wouldn't it have been a good idea to "find out what happens on Friday" before starting your other thread which might well scare other couples where the beneficiary has had depression issues?

I agree with queenofblades. I've read through a lot of past reviews and threads and I've not seen anything like this before so you need to clear up any misunderstanding with Knightsbridge.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

It's against the TOS to post personal attacks.

[Vanitas 310]

It's against the TOS to post personal attacks.

Way ahead of ya.

[corvusheart 163]

It's against the TOS to post personal attacks.

Well then I want the same respect and not have some smart-alec comments fired towards me that aren't even related to the topic.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Just because someone else violates the TOS (arguably), that does not give you carte blanche to respond in kind. This is getting quite out of control, and your posts are appearing in multiple threads. Everyone here needs a time out.