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Dobolo   9

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As I sat waiting for my Biometrics for my ROC, a thought came to my mind - why am I doing this again? Why are they taking my biometrics a second time? My fingerprints wont change neither will my facial features significantly (at least barring any accidents or weight changes)

Then I just hopped onto the Naturalization forums and saw that another set of biometrics will be taken again when applying for USC status.

So the average person going through this process will have their biometrics taken at least 3 times or more. What is the purpose for the multiple fingerprinting? I habe tried to think about various reasons or scenarios but they just dont make sense to me.

Does anyone have any insight?

12/4/10 - Married
03/9/11 - AOS package sent via USPS
03/10/11 - AOS package received by USCIS
03/14/11 - Email and Text notification received from USCIS
03/14/11 - Checks cashed by USCIS (got notification from bank on 03/15/11)
03/18/11 - NOA1 received in the mail (all four of them)
03/26/11 - Biometrics received for 04/20 (postmarked 03/23)
04/20/11 - Biometrics done today!
05/09/11 - Got my EAD in the mail today!!!
05/16/11 - Interview letter received for 06/20!!!
06/20/11 - Interview done, APPROVED! 2 year Green Card!

4/27/13 - I-751 Package for ROC mailed

4/29/13 - I-751 Package delivered by USPS to VSC

5/12/13 - NOA in the mail (dated 4/30/13)

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Merrytooth Mentor

Merrytooth   5,748

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Your fingerprints never “expire” but the validity period of background check and clearance based on the collection of your fingerprints is 15 months.

Hence, you need to do Biometrics again when you apply for USC status.

Done with K1, AOS and ROC

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drlarryclements   4

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The correct answer has probably already been stated, but my two cents worth, are 3 biometrics, 3 fees.

You do the math.

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VanessaTony Grand Master

VanessaTony   3,567

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As I sat waiting for my Biometrics for my ROC, a thought came to my mind - why am I doing this again? Why are they taking my biometrics a second time? My fingerprints wont change neither will my facial features significantly (at least barring any accidents or weight changes)

Then I just hopped onto the Naturalization forums and saw that another set of biometrics will be taken again when applying for USC status.

So the average person going through this process will have their biometrics taken at least 3 times or more. What is the purpose for the multiple fingerprinting? I habe tried to think about various reasons or scenarios but they just dont make sense to me.

Does anyone have any insight?

As Merrytooth stated it's that the background check expires. Another reason some postulate is to make sure you're still you and not someone else pretending to be you to get benefits. Say your sister was being petitioned and then she passed away so you pretended to be her to help support her kids... your prints wouldn't exactly match. I doubt it's the latter, but you never know!

Aussie K1 process - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/206016-australian-beneficiaries-packet-3-to-interview-date/
AOS, EAD & AP - the Aussie Way (including document list) - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/235331-aos-ead-ap-from-k1-the-aussie-way-doc-list-included/
ROC April 2012 - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/358760-i-751-april-2012-filers/ (includes document list)
N-400 April 2013 - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/412738-n-400-april-2013-filers/ (includes document list)

N-400 Interview review - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/412738-n-400-april-2013-filers/?p=6381814

N-400 Oath Ceremony review - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/412738-n-400-april-2013-filers/?p=6537699
Aussie Chat page continued - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/331922-new-2011-land-downunder-aussie-aussie-aussie-oi-oi-oi/
Aussie Name Change on Passport Process - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/248400-australian-passport-name-change-process/
Travel on maiden name passport with married name GC, tickets in married name - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/183541-land-downunder-aussie-aussie-aussie-oi-oi-oi/page__view__findpost__p__4135806
Shipping Costs from Aus to US - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/293179-shipping-costs-aus-to-usa/

Notes:
- For my "standard" timeline please see timeline to the left
- For timeline with Aussie specifics & more detailed info, please see the "About Me" section of my profile

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Cheezees Mentor

Cheezees   1,514

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As Merrytooth stated it's that the background check expires. Another reason some postulate is to make sure you're still you and not someone else pretending to be you to get benefits. Say your sister was being petitioned and then she passed away so you pretended to be her to help support her kids... your prints wouldn't exactly match. I doubt it's the latter, but you never know!

You are also correct. With every application your identity needs to be verified. I think the expiration period is justified - though I hate the fee. :P

 

 

AOS

03/24/11 - Got married in the Boogie-Down Bronx, NYC!
04/21/11 - Mailed I-130,I-765, I-485, I-864 and I-693 - Day 00

04/23/11 - Application delivered - Day 02
04/28/11 - NOA (most forms) - Day 07
05/03/11 - Checks cashed - Day 12
05/31/11 - Biometrics completed in the Bronx, NYC - Day 40
06/24/11 - Received someone else's employment authorization card!!! What the...? - Day 64
07/01/11 - Mailed the poor lady's card back after calling USCIS - Day 71
07/07/11 - Received poor lady's interview notice! What??? - Day 77
07/15/11 - Received my own EAD card - Day 85
08/12/11 - Interview. Approved on the spot! - Day 113
08/18/11 - Received card in the mail - Day 119

ROC
05/28/13 - Mailed I-751 - Day 00

05/30/13 - Application delivered - Day 02

05/31/13 - NOA I-797 - Day 03
06/04/13 - Check cashed - Day 07

06/06/13 - NOA delivered to my home/Biometrics letter generated - Day 09

06/10/13 - Received Biometrics letter in the mail - Day 13

06/27/13 - Biometrics completed in Milwaukee, WI - Day 30

09/10/13 - Application approved! - Day 105

09/14/13 - 10 year Green Card received! - Day 109

Citizenship

05/10/16 - Mailed N-400 - Day 00

05/12/16 - Application delivered - Day 02

05/13/16 - Credit card payment accepted - Day 03

05/17/16 - Received text & email update - Day 07

05/20/16 - Received 1st NOA (dated 05/13/16) & created ELIS acct - Day 10

05/21/16 - Received 2nd NOA (dated 05/16/16) confirming my DOB and address - Day 11

05/22/06 - Biometrics scheduled (online update) and appt letter was mailed on 05/20/16 - Day 12

05/24/06 - Biometrics letter became viewable online (appt scheduled for 06/07/16) - Day 14

05/27/16 - Received Biometrics letter in mail - Day 17

05/31/16 - Was denied walk-in fingerprints with just 1 person left in line. Milwaukee office, boo! - Day 21

06/07/16 - Biometrics completed in Milwaukee, WI - Day 28

12/21/16 - Passed Citizenship test/Interview was successful! - Day 197

01/26/17 - I am a US citizen!!! - Day 233

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Darnell Grand Master

Darnell   8,478

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Why? The worry is that the green card holder has been knocked off and replaced by a terrorist.

So if the fingerprints match, well, that's just one less thing.

Welcome to USA after the Patriot Act was passed into law.

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

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The correct answer has probably already been stated, but my two cents worth, are 3 biometrics, 3 fees.

You do the math.

Its all about dollars. The entire process of naturalization unlike some other areas of government is a huge money maker

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