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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: England
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:goofy: If this should be under another topic, please feel free to move it. I just didn't know where to post this.

My English husband just got his U.S. citizenship last month but is being considered for a job in Vancouver, Canada. I believe I have read that if you are a U.S. citizen and move to another country and work, you still have to pay U.S. income taxes or at least file them. Does anyone know for certain if we move to Canada, will my husband have to pay both Canadian income taxes and U.S. income taxes? It might not be worth the move if he is taxed twice. Thanks for any replies. :goofy:

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08/31/05 . . . . London Interview - APPROVED

AOS PROCESS:

10/06/05 . . . . Sent AOS/EAD/AP to Chicago Lockbox

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REMOVING CONDITIONS PROCESS:

03/03/08 . . . . Sent I-751 packet to TSC.

02/27/09 . . . . APPROVED.

CITIZENSHIP PROCESS:

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09/11/12 . . . . Interview in Atlanta. Oath ceremony same day. Keith is a U.S. Citizen!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Post moved from the Immigration News forum to the Canada Regional Forum as the most appropriate location for this question

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Canada and the US have a tax treaty between the two countries that effectively stops double taxation. When a US citizen works in Canada he is still required to file a US tax return, however the tax treaty rules that the individual will pay taxes in the country in which he resides - so he would pay taxes in Canada and then on his US return file for a foreign tax credit to cover the tax paid to Canada. You will find that while you may pay more in taxes (depends on how much you are earning and what your tax credits are in Canada) you will also be getting more for your taxes, especially in terms of health care and social benefits so it is a good trade.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to talk with a knowledgeable cross-border financial adviser as there are a number of cross-border issues that might come up such as retirement pensions and such. Good luck with the job - Vancouver is a wonderful city in which to live and I am sure you would both enjoy living there very much.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: England
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Post moved from the Immigration News forum to the Canada Regional Forum as the most appropriate location for this question

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Canada and the US have a tax treaty between the two countries that effectively stops double taxation. When a US citizen works in Canada he is still required to file a US tax return, however the tax treaty rules that the individual will pay taxes in the country in which he resides - so he would pay taxes in Canada and then on his US return file for a foreign tax credit to cover the tax paid to Canada. You will find that while you may pay more in taxes (depends on how much you are earning and what your tax credits are in Canada) you will also be getting more for your taxes, especially in terms of health care and social benefits so it is a good trade.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to talk with a knowledgeable cross-border financial adviser as there are a number of cross-border issues that might come up such as retirement pensions and such. Good luck with the job - Vancouver is a wonderful city in which to live and I am sure you would both enjoy living there very much.

:goofy: Thanks Kathryn! :goofy:

K1 PROCESS:

04/08/05 . . . . Sent I-129F to TSC

08/31/05 . . . . London Interview - APPROVED

AOS PROCESS:

10/06/05 . . . . Sent AOS/EAD/AP to Chicago Lockbox

05/16/06 . . . . APPROVED.

REMOVING CONDITIONS PROCESS:

03/03/08 . . . . Sent I-751 packet to TSC.

02/27/09 . . . . APPROVED.

CITIZENSHIP PROCESS:

05/21/12 . . . . Sent N-400 packet to Dallas lockbox

09/11/12 . . . . Interview in Atlanta. Oath ceremony same day. Keith is a U.S. Citizen!

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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I'm surprised that no one has answered this. But I can help with some basic info.

USCs have to file a tax return regardless of where they live. There is a difference between filing a return and paying taxes. Paying US tax when living out of the US depends on how much you earn and how much investment income you have.

The US has a foreign income limit (don't no of it's correct name). Basically a certain amount of your foreign earned income is counted as a credit. ie you don't pay US tax on it. You can look up the amount on the IRS site, it was just under $100000. I believe there is no credit for unearned income. There is also a problem that Canada likes to know about all your worldwide income even if it is taxed in the home country. That's about all I know from my husband's mutterings at tax time.

If noone else comes on to help you, I suggest a google search and a trip to the library.

1 Dec 2011 Mailed I-130
8 Dec 2011 NOA 1
20 Dec 2011 NOA 2

NVC

17 Jan 2012 Phoned NVC. Case Number allocated
18 Jan 2012 Emails received re AOS fee and Agent
20 Jan 2012 Electronic opt in email sent & response received
20 Jan 2012 AOS fee paid
20 Jan 2012 Form DS-261 Choice of agent filed
27 Jan 2012 Email received re choice of agent received. Can now pay IV bill
29 Jan 2012 IV bill paid
31 Jan 2012 Received written notification case at NVC (dated 18 Jan)
8 Feb 2012 Emailed AOS
9 Feb 2012 DS-260 submitted online & docs emailed
14 Feb 2012 Case Complete
5 Mar 2012 received email - interview date 10 April
10 Apr 2012 Visa Approved
10 Apr 2012 Email from Loomis - passport picked up from Consulate

June 2012 Moved back to US

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Note to self - don't answer posts if there is already a reply.

1 Dec 2011 Mailed I-130
8 Dec 2011 NOA 1
20 Dec 2011 NOA 2

NVC

17 Jan 2012 Phoned NVC. Case Number allocated
18 Jan 2012 Emails received re AOS fee and Agent
20 Jan 2012 Electronic opt in email sent & response received
20 Jan 2012 AOS fee paid
20 Jan 2012 Form DS-261 Choice of agent filed
27 Jan 2012 Email received re choice of agent received. Can now pay IV bill
29 Jan 2012 IV bill paid
31 Jan 2012 Received written notification case at NVC (dated 18 Jan)
8 Feb 2012 Emailed AOS
9 Feb 2012 DS-260 submitted online & docs emailed
14 Feb 2012 Case Complete
5 Mar 2012 received email - interview date 10 April
10 Apr 2012 Visa Approved
10 Apr 2012 Email from Loomis - passport picked up from Consulate

June 2012 Moved back to US

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Note to self - don't answer posts if there is already a reply.

Nah!! I find many people dont even read the posts,lol so your best just to post again,lol

Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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