Help w/ denial. Positive drug urine test & Stupidity

[LIFE'SJOURNEY 970]

Life'sJourney,

Thanks for taking the time to sort through this messy topic and post. All of this information is invaluable. The "one year" kept coming up in everything I was reading. I wasn't sure if it was the approved I-130 that would expire or this was in regards to the Visa itself. I was hoping for the best - pee and wait for the re-interview. Thanks again for your time and help.

All my best,

Kim

Kim, your approved I-130 do not expire, that is why I stated in one year just request another interview date. Those who file for a K1, will have to re-file all over agin, because their I-129 will expire.

[ca_babe 129]

I-601 covers several situations including overstaying but doesn't cover INA 212(a)(1)(A)(iv) drug abuse. http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-601instr.pdf

Wait wait -- forgive me for not reading the past 3 pages but, OP, you have to submit a 601?? I thought only people like me had to submit 601s b/c my husband was here "illegally"??? o.O

All I know is they don't play with drug bans. I know people whose spouse admitted to drinking, they saw his prior DUI and sentenced him to a year, unwaivable bar that he had to serve out in ES.

[LIFE'SJOURNEY 970]

I-601 covers several situations including overstaying but doesn't cover INA 212(a)(1)(A)(iv) drug abuse. http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-601instr.pdf

There is no need for the wavier unless the embassy requests it. I haven't seen a request for a wavier when there have not been any charges aginst the appliciant.

Edited September 20, 2012 by LIFE'SJOURNEY

[Jenny&Toby 13]

As per the norm with a few others you seem to miss the point of the post. "What is the process or procedure to go on from here."

This is the last and only time I will even address such a silly statement. This has always been a place of help and support for people on their "VisaJourney," not a place for abuse, judgement, or ridicule. And thankfully there are still some wonderful people on this site that make it so. And I am ever thankful to them for all their time in helping me, showing genuine concern, and effort they have put into just saying hello, being supportive, or even the littlest of things. But I will indeed this last time... otherwise I would suggest you find a hobby or something else to pass the time if you find it necessary to troll. As a matter of fact, as you stated you worked in a detox cetner, surely you would see the pathology in what you are doing? I would hope. There are actually studies done on people that "troll." There are some fabulous medical journal articles that you might find interesting on the subject.

To address your statement: You are so right. I hope that everyone is fortunate enough to have a husband like mine and be in denial like you say I am. What a beautiful life and blessing. If a person who runs 5 miles a day, coaches little league for free, is an ex-semi pro player who takes care of his body, cares for his whole family and wife, who prays daily, does not drink, won't even take an aspirin (parecetemol for you non-westerners LOL), eats healthy, says please and thank you, and is a humble and beautiful person who would give the shirt off his back to help a stranger............... is what you say! Then sure, ok. I am in denial. Definintely. One mis-step or mistake does not necessarily define a person.

P. S. By the way, my mother who did not "work" in a detox center but actually founded and started them seems to disagree with you on your diagnosis, doctor. And if you were to read the original post you will see there was never any question as to whether there was a positive urine test. Your broad sweeping opinion and outright disrespect would indicate if you were indeed a counselor or work in a detox center, you are certainly not following the norm. First step in being a good counselor, Listen. Don't be quick to judge his needs ... Putting a client at ease requires an empathetic spirit and supportive approach. A rehabilitation counselor ... should be organized and professional in all your dealings, and work well with others in a team-approach strategy to help the patient.

And a few wise words from others, to pass the time:

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“It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err.”

― Mahatma Gandhi

Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes.”

― Mahatma Gandhi

“To err is human, to forgive, divine.”

― Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

“We should regret our mistakes and learn from them, but never carry them forward into the future with us.”

― L.M. Montgomery

“Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it.”

― Salvador Dalí

“We learn from failure, not from success!”

― Bram Stoker, Dracula

“If people refuse to look at you in a new light and they can only see you for what you were, only see you for the mistakes you've made, if they don't realize that you are not your mistakes, then they have to go.”

― Steve Maraboli, Life, the Truth, and Being Free

“I'm afraid that we all make mistakes. One of the things that defines our character is how we handle mistakes. If we lie about having made a mistake, then it can't be corrected and it festers. On the other hand, if we give up just because we made a mistake, even a big mistake, none of us would get far in life.”

― Terry Goodkind, Confessor

“We are all mistaken sometimes; sometimes we do wrong things, things that have bad consequences. But it does not mean we are evil, or that we cannot be trusted ever afterward.”

― Alison Croggon

OK We get it, good people who are healthy and have jobs smoke pot! So he doesn't take aspirin he doesn't need to, he is soothing his headache with smoking POT. He should have just stayed sober for awhile knowing he might have to take a drug test. I think you got your answer already on this post and should now let it go. If you write about drugs of course everyone is going to comment, if you don't want comments don't post questions.

[Mrs_Mouse 16]

To everyone that took the time to reply or a word of support... I thank you from the bottom of my heart. You were just a huge help in sorting this out. There are far too numerous wonderful posts to thank everyone individually but please know that I appreciate all of your help.

For everyone else, Well, "Open Mic Night" seems appropriate. Tonight at 8:30pm. Drinks and appetizers will be served and your wonderful, witty participation is encouraged. You've been a blast!

All my best,

Kim

[ca_babe 129]

You are correct. As I've mentioned in my first post, there doesn't seem to be an outright denial. I am responding to post about what the I-601 covers not suggesting that the OP files one.

There is no need for the wavier unless the embassy requests it. I haven't seen a request for a wavier when there have not been any charges aginst the appliciant.

[Mrs_Mouse 16]

OK We get it, good people who are healthy and have jobs smoke pot! So he doesn't take aspirin he doesn't need to, he is soothing his headache with smoking POT. He should have just stayed sober for awhile knowing he might have to take a drug test. I think you got your answer already on this post and should now let it go. If you write about drugs of course everyone is going to comment, if you don't want comments don't post questions.

Boy, did you lose the plot on that one. Cheers!

[Jenny&Toby 13]

Boy, did you lose the plot on that one. Cheers!

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!

[Mrs_Mouse 16]

People do dumb things all the time, I also think in a country like Morocco the drug laws are not as dumb as they are in the use. In most countries it is no big deal to smoke a joint. There is one question I have for myself. Would he have to go to the civil surgeon to get drug tested every 3 months, this could become costly.

Yes, he must return there, to the same civil surgeon... and the cost is unbelievable. Especially if you look at the money value of a nation like Morocco. I consider us very fortunate considering what could have happened.

[AmeriPole 7]

These things happen. He probably assumed he would be ok, and that because he'd been honest with the process. Unfortunately the people who do things the honest way aren't always favored. For now stay strong and hope the year goes fast. I wish you the best of luck.

P.S. Ignore the trolls and the haters, you know your husband and that's all that matters.

Edited September 20, 2012 by AmeriPole

[tru_loves_journey 117]

Wishing you the very best

[del-2-5-2014 1,339]

People do dumb things all the time, I also think in a country like Morocco the drug laws are not as dumb as they are in the use. In most countries it is no big deal to smoke a joint. There is one question I have for myself. Would he have to go to the civil surgeon to get drug tested every 3 months, this could become costly.

The issue here is that the visa application is not being conducted under Moroccan law or any other country but an American one and that is all that matters.

Regardless of the OPs exagerated hysterical outbursts, I still commend her for enlightening VJ community that this happens.

[Mrs_Mouse 16]

OK We get it, good people who are healthy and have jobs smoke pot! So he doesn't take aspirin he doesn't need to, he is soothing his headache with smoking POT. He should have just stayed sober for awhile knowing he might have to take a drug test. I think you got your answer already on this post and should now let it go. If you write about drugs of course everyone is going to comment, if you don't want comments don't post questions.

Hhhhhh. No, Silly. I am actually saying he is not a smoker. A person who made a mistake... sure. In wrong place... most definintely. But no, I was not implying any of those things you said. My, you've got an imagination! And of course, he would take something like an Tylenol for his toothache or his recent ACL tear. I was making a point.

[Mrs_Mouse 16]

These things happen. He probably assumed he would be ok, and that because he'd been honest with the process. Unfortunately the people who do things the honest way aren't always favored. For now stay strong and hope the year goes fast. I wish you the best of luck.

P.S. Ignore the trolls and the haters, you know your husband and that's all that matters.

I could just kiss your face! Hhhhh. Thank you. Just.... thank you.

[SWEETEPIPHANY67 9]

Kim, your approved I-130 do not expire, that is why I stated in one year just request another interview date. Those who file for a K1, will have to re-file all over agin, because their I-129 will expire.

I am not sure that K1 filers will have to refile. There is someone here who obtained in writing that they wont have to refile and I called USCIS and was told that even if it does expire, once it has been reviewed and requests for evidence has been approved, another approval letter will be issued with a new expiration date. I do not have that in writing, however, I am working on getting that.